HoonDing Posted June 14, 2023 Author Share Posted June 14, 2023 "Kashmir ? Nigeria? The West only cares about the "relatively civilized" places. " The 22nd century belongs to India and Africa 1 The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 The US needs to keep India close to our bosom. Were going to need those 1B to storm China from the West side whenever this whole thing kicks off. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amentep Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 Old thread - I cannot - yet I must. How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do "must" and "cannot" meet? Yet I must - but I cannot! ~ Ro-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 https://www.news24.com/news24/southafrica/news/developing-dispatches-from-ukraine-news24-joins-ramaphosa-peace-delegation-on-the-ground-20230615#:~:text=WARSAW The SA plane carrying our president and lots of security staff and journalists is stuck at Warsaw airport for some sort of legal\arms infringement. This is part of the peace mission to go to Ukraine and Russia....its off to a great start "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Okay exciting update, our president has arrived in Ukraine !!!! Only SA journalists and most of his security personnel are detained in Poland. But our media is so uniformed about the war. They asking " but is he going to be safe in Kiev without his 100+ security " They clearly dont understand the nature of the war because no amount of onground security personnel is going to stop a Ruskie missile...the SA media probably thinks there are ongoing battles within Kiev like Bakhmut ? "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Biden and everyone else travels with no security there, after all. 1 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Malcador said: Biden and everyone else travels with no security there, after all. US vs SA president Very similar around travel security, you right But its expected to have a small security team if you the SA president. He didnt need dozens of people and apparently there were over 100 people on the plane counting the SA media "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mamoulian War Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 And Russia has launched 12 missiles (including 6 Kizhals) on Kyiv as a welcome committee to African leaders https://www.reuters.com/world/south-african-president-arrives-ukraine-peace-mission-2023-06-16/ 1 Sent from my Stone Tablet, using Chisel-a-Talk 2000BC. My youtube channel: MamoulianFH Latest Let's Play Tales of Arise (completed) Latest Bossfight Compilation Dark Souls Remastered - New Game (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 1: Austria Grand Campaign (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 2: Xhosa Grand Campaign (completed) My PS Platinums and 100% - 29 games so far (my PSN profile) 1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours 2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours 3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours 4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours 5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours 6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours 7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours 8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC) 9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours 11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours 12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours 13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours 14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours 15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours 16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours 17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours 18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours 20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours 21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours 22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours 23) Fairy Fencer F - PS3 - 215+ hours 24) Megadimension Neptunia VII - PS4 - 160 hours 25) Super Neptunia RPG - PS4 - 44+ hours 26) Journey - PS3 - 22+ hours 27) Final Fantasy XV - PS4 - 263+ hours (including all DLCs) 28) Tales of Arise - PS4 - 111+ hours 29) Dark Souls: Remastered - PS4 - 121+ hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 13 minutes ago, Mamoulian War said: And Russia has launched 12 missiles (including 6 Kizhals) on Kyiv as a welcome committee to African leaders https://www.reuters.com/world/south-african-president-arrives-ukraine-peace-mission-2023-06-16/ I am surprised they did this the Ruskies...so much for BRICS friendship "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 I was just listening to something on the local SA media about this, people are saying Poland grounded the plane because they worried it may have weapons and military equipment bound for Russia like the allegations of the Russian ship I find it hard to believe anyone would seriously think that the plane carrying our president would also be smuggling weapons to Russia It sounds ridiculous considering the furore the ship incident caused "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 48 minutes ago, BruceVC said: US vs SA president Very similar around travel security, you right But its expected to have a small security team if you the SA president. He didnt need dozens of people and apparently there were over 100 people on the plane counting the SA media I don't know if it's expected to have a small one, dozens of security people doesn't sound too striking - but dozens can be 2 or 6. Does sound like a mess of a trip though, didn't get clearance through Italian airspace 17 minutes ago, BruceVC said: I was just listening to something on the local SA media about this, people are saying Poland grounded the plane because they worried it may have weapons and military equipment bound for Russia like the allegations of the Russian ship I find it hard to believe anyone would seriously think that the plane carrying our president would also be smuggling weapons to Russia It sounds ridiculous considering the furore the ship incident caused Okay, just the Poles being **** as I suspected. 1 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, Malcador said: I don't know if it's expected to have a small one, dozens of security people doesn't sound too striking - but dozens can be 2 or 6. Does sound like a mess of a trip though, didn't get clearance through Italian airspace Okay, just the Poles being **** as I suspected. Our president has been to Kiev now and they went to Bucha to see the massacre of civilians And then he is off to St Pietersburg to see Putin, so he wasnt really delayed in Poland. But the SA journalists are still stuck on the plane and they really upset. I feel sorry for them but they getting Burger King for free so its not all bad "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted June 16, 2023 Author Share Posted June 16, 2023 It's Eastern Europe any non-white person entering their country is a national emergency 1 1 The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoraptor Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Europe: I don't understand why the 'Global South' hates us. We stand for the Rules Based Order! Also Europe: Vienna Convention doesn't apply to Africans or South Americans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyrock Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 6 hours ago, BruceVC said: I feel sorry for them but they getting Burger King for free so its not all bad Have you been to Burger King? It's pretty f'n bad. 1 RFK Jr 2024 "Any organization created out of fear must create fear to survive." - Bill Hicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elerond Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 (edited) South Africa has never signed or ratified Vienna Convention Edited June 16, 2023 by Elerond 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoraptor Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) Heh, too many Vienna Conventions I think, and that's only the ones from the 1960s. The relevant treaty is the VC on Diplomatic Relations (which has been signed by everyone except South Sudan and Palau and is probably the cornerstone of international diplomatic law) not the VC on the Law of Treaties, which RSA and a decent number of other countries hasn't signed. (not being entirely serious anyway, but I'd suspect that it would be more relevant that Poland, and Spain previous for Morales, had signed even if RSA hadn't) Edited June 17, 2023 by Zoraptor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 I watched most of the Q&A with the African leaders and Zelensky and I thought they did a good job at explaining what the peace mission is about considering the circumstances They came across as very empathetic to what is happening in Ukraine but I dont think this mission is going to achieve much but its well meaning with good intentions and at least Africa is trying because this war has a direct economic impact to several African countries 1 "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmp10 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Something interesting I missed recently: Some 20+ Azov members are to be tried in Russia including PoWs from Mariupol. Good indication that Russia is loosing interest in any settlement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted June 17, 2023 Author Share Posted June 17, 2023 Africa and India will never abandon Russia. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexx Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 On 6/16/2023 at 10:06 AM, BruceVC said: https://www.news24.com/news24/southafrica/news/developing-dispatches-from-ukraine-news24-joins-ramaphosa-peace-delegation-on-the-ground-20230615#:~:text=WARSAW The SA plane carrying our president and lots of security staff and journalists is stuck at Warsaw airport for some sort of legal\arms infringement. This is part of the peace mission to go to Ukraine and Russia....its off to a great start Not just security staff. Apparently there also have been 12 crates of weapons. No clue wtf they were trying to do with all the "security guards"(?) and extra weapons. 1 "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, Lexx said: Not just security staff. Apparently there also have been 12 crates of weapons. No clue wtf they were trying to do with all the "security guards"(?) and extra weapons. I agree and the general consensus in SA is the security people didnt submit or register the proper paperwork for all those weapons So I dont blame the Polish response because our credibility is also in question after the Russian ship incident which has been classified As I said several times, when its comes to many of our foreign affairs decisions we are our own worst enemy "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugarup Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 And now, some news from Mordor. This is from recent "international" (LOL) economics forum of St. Peterburg or some such. Black-yellow-white is old flag of russian empire, until now used mostly by ultra-nationalist radical trash, but here it officially is, right next to the soviet empire's flag. Very symbolic and would be funny if not for deaths of hundreds of thousands Ukrainians caused by ambitions of those imbeciles dreaming of imperial glory. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xzar_monty Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 On 6/16/2023 at 11:01 PM, Zoraptor said: Europe: I don't understand why the 'Global South' hates us. We stand for the Rules Based Order! Also Europe: Vienna Convention doesn't apply to Africans or South Americans. Just out of curiosity, but also completely in earnest: is there an entity (a country, a major organization, whatever) on the international political scene that matters at least a bit and that you do respect? Incidentally, this is in no way to deny the self-contradictory positions that Europe does indeed often take. But it's a bit like the history I have with one of the major critics over here; he often writes remarkably well, but he's also spiky almost to the point of being savage, and I sometimes think it would be marvelous to see him like something for a change. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xzar_monty Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 This is, again, interesting. I have referenced to this in an earlier iteration of this thread, but it's fascinating enough (in my view) to bring up again: there appears to something oddly scatological in the Russian way of living -- or at least in the way Russian (soldiers) conduct themselves (abroad). In the early 2000s, I worked in a project dealing with the aftermath of the war in Chechnya, and one of the big surprises for me was the extent to which the presence of Russian soldiers was marked by, yes, shít. In tremendous abundance and in places you wouldn't ordinarily expect to find it in your average household. There have been numerous reports of the same in Ukraine: messages written on walls with someone's hefty number two as the writing material, piles of big businesses in kitchens, living rooms, etc., you name it. I find it very odd: it is almost impossible that all of the soiling could happen right before the troops leave, so do the soldiers just happily live in a dunged-up house? Do soldiers gather together for a good ol' group-cráp, or does the fouling of a room take place incrementally, and if so, what does the provider of the 15th pile of ordure in a living room think while on the job with the 14 already there? I'd like to, and wouldn't like to, know the answers to some of the questions like this. It's very strange. I have sometimes wondered if there's an unspeakably nasty hidden side to the bodily cleanliness (in many respects) of the Arab culture, and I suppose I must also wonder whether there's a remarkably well hidden clean side to this aspect of the Russian culture. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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