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30 minutes ago, Gfted1 said:

Amazon reportedly plans to lay off about 10,000 employees starting this week (cnbc.com)

Do you know whats in common with all these Amazon and Twitter folks? They need UBI, UHC, UFH and UFE. We cant ignore it any longer! 

First they need unions. 

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1 hour ago, Gfted1 said:

I have no words right now other than lol, this is hilarious. Maybe he really wants to destroy Twitter?

/Edit: "Surya Systems did not respond to Ars’ request for comment. Twitter laid off its communications department."

lolol

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2 minutes ago, Lexx said:

I have no words right now other than lol, this is hilarious. Maybe he really wants to destroy Twitter?

/Edit: "Surya Systems did not respond to Ars’ request for comment. Twitter laid off its communications department."

lolol

As I see it there are a few possibilities.

1) Elon Musk is an idiot who is only rich due to luck and other rich people being easy dupes.

2) Elon didn't want to buy Twitter at all and is trying to default on the loan or something.

3) Elon Musk spent $44 Billion to stop people from posting his bald picture or the one of him ad Ghislaine Maxwell.

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Honestly all 3 could be correct at once, which makes this **** even funnier.

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Must be nice to have so much money to burn the libs

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2 hours ago, Agiel said:

 

the final tragedy o' the nixon ouster is rare taught in schools, but am suspecting mitch mcconnell and others were much aware o' how the story ended for Congressional republicans who did the right thing. 

to this day, on this board, you will see people suggesting january 6 were unfortunate but nowhere close to an insurrection... and whatabout the 2020 summer protests?

trump were not particular popular when he won the Presidency in 2016, but somehow a cultlike following developed during four years o' ignominy and incompetence? what?

am thinking republican leadership is gonna be hesitant to move on from trump, regardless o' circumstances.  history o' "heroic" nixonian republicans and the january 6 backlash 'gainst folks such as lindsey has taught the gop there ain't no practical benefits in doing the right thing. is in part 'cause o' the history o' nixon we are stuck with trump for the near future.

@Pidesco (edit) there were no smoking gun moment for republican voters in regards to nixon. the narrative taught today is embracing more than a little romanticized fiction. what happened were, after a substantial elapse o' time following the release o' the watergate tapes, a collection o' republican Congressmen let the President know they would no longer support him through impeachment and a subsequent trial, at which point nixon resigned. the thing is, republican voters did not forgive those Congressmen who were disloyal to their clear guilty President; most o' those republican politicians were primary'd or voted out o' office in the subsequent election 'cause they had such diminished support from republican voters.

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2 hours ago, Make a contract with KP said:

As I see it there are a few possibilities.

1) Elon Musk is an idiot who is only rich due to luck and other rich people being easy dupes.

2) Elon didn't want to buy Twitter at all and is trying to default on the loan or something.

3) Elon Musk spent $44 Billion to stop people from posting his bald picture or the one of him ad Ghislaine Maxwell.

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Honestly all 3 could be correct at once, which makes this **** even funnier.

Soon in the news: "Elon Musk fires himself after forgetting he was the only one left working at Twitter."

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7 minutes ago, InsaneCommander said:

Soon in the news: "Elon Musk fires himself after forgetting he was the only one left working at Twitter."

The Onion will have to sue him for making reality too difficult to parody.

Oh and now that I think of it, there is a fourth possibility: Elon Musk is desperately wants to be funny but has a sense of humor that would embarrass someone from 2005.

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hobbs now projected to win in the arizona govenor race.

 

so, cheney channeling a bit o' nelson muntz?

 

 

HA! Good Fun!

ps once again am linking the relevant fox news article: Arizona gov election: Katie Hobbs defeats GOP challenger Kari Lake, race may now go to recount under state law

read the comments and recognize how even though lake lost, a significant % of americans are true believers in the lies trump, lake and others is continuing to sell 'em. real don't matter. facts don't matter. truth don't matter. given the degree o' polarization we see as normal nowadays, any narrative which benefits or originates from the libs is part o' a scheme by them to keep real americans down... or whatever. 

lake' losing is a win for reality, but not a big win 'cause look how close a thing it were and those near 50% who supported lake yesterday is not waking up tomorrow to the realization they has been willful buying snake oil. is a real win when folks such as lake is once again a momentary punchline embraced serious only by the lunatic fringe.

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11 hours ago, Gfted1 said:

Fifth possibility: Twitter is hemorrhaging $4M a day and he did the right thing. :yes:

In 2021 Twitter made 5 billion dollars of ad revenue in couple weeks Elon has succeed to drop it less than billion dollars.

So cutting jobs could have been necessary to make Twitter profitable (as it made 200 million dollars loss 2021), but way Elon did it doesn't seem to be best way. But of course he may be able to convince advertiser come back, although some of biggest advertisers have declared that they will not advertise in Twitter or use Twitter ever after Twitter Blue impersonators were able to crash their stock price with fake announcements. So Elon may have difficult time ahead. But he already made SpaceX buy ads from Twitter with hefty sum, so he at least I'd able to fund Twitter with his other companies, although their other owners may not like such actions. 

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I don't really care what Musk does with his new MySpace purchase. I feel bad for all most of the people that lost their jobs but I highly doubt the company will ever be worth anywhere near what he paid for it.

Only time will tell if he's making the right moves.

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With any luck, in a year Twitter gets bought for a few million and Elon destroys Tesla. Not only will this be extremely funny, but taking cars that explode and have a deadly autopilot would vastly improve public safety.

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"Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador

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"thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex

"Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock

"Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco

"we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii

"I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing

"feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth

"Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi

"Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor

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Guess who's back?

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/15/politics/trump-2024-presidential-bid

Whelp, I guess it was only a matter of time before he needed some more merch money coming in.

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"Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic

"you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus

"Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander

"Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador

"You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort

"thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex

"Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock

"Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco

"we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii

"I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing

"feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth

"Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi

"Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor

"I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine

"I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands

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4 minutes ago, ShadySands said:

I look forward to him and Rhonda Sanctimonious going at it. Don't kink shame me.

I too have such a kink. Even better, with the 3rd straight loss for Republicans nationally, we're going to see opportunists jump off the Trump train so Trump will be feuding with several people over the next two years.

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"you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus

"Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander

"Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador

"You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort

"thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex

"Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock

"Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco

"we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii

"I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing

"feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth

"Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi

"Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor

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When Trump has been on the ballot in 2016 and 2020, he has majorly outperformed expectations. In both of those elections, it was right on the margin of error for how well he over-performed. He lost the 2020 election by a combined mere 65,009 votes through just four key states (Arizona, Georgia, Wisconsin, and Nebraska) that would have won him the election...and that was after the absolute clown fiesta nightmare 4 years that we experienced with him and with him utterly bungling a deadly global pandemic - if not for just the latter, he absolutely would still be president right now. In 2018 and 2022 when he hasn't been on the ballot, it has been a completely different story. For so many people in this country, Trump is their guy, the only guy that they truly believe in, that nobody else could ever be for them. It is called a cult of personality for a reason, and so while these midterm performances with him as the "leader" of the Republican Party have been weak, I very strongly hope that he does not win the Republican ticket for 2024 because it is my feeling that there is a significant voter base that only he can tap into, and if the Republican party rejects him, that base will neither forgive nor vote for the Republican party, and good riddance to them.

Probably the absolute best scenario, of course, would be that Trump loses the Republican nomination and then still runs independent as an act of revenge. I'm sure the majority of us would love to see that and the resulting implosion.

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10 hours ago, Make a contract with KP said:

Guess who's back?

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/15/politics/trump-2024-presidential-bid

Whelp, I guess it was only a matter of time before he needed some more merch money coming in.

Actually just being on the permanent rally trail has been an enormous source of income on its own. If it was only money on his mind, I imagine he'd be happy to just keep that going until he keels over and dies.

I'd say he's actually running because he is trying to escape indictments/prosecution/whatever can stick on teflon.

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10 minutes ago, Bartimaeus said:

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While I hope Trump would run 3rd party if he doesn't get the nomination, I fear that the Democrats won't show up (especially to contend with vote suppression efforts) if they aren't up against Trump. I don't have anything to base that on other than their general apathy.

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8 minutes ago, ShadySands said:

While I hope Trump would run 3rd party if he doesn't get the nomination, I fear that the Democrats won't show up (especially to contend with vote suppression efforts) if they aren't up against Trump. I don't have anything to base that on other than their general apathy.

You right in the sense there is definitely a Trump " anti-vote" and this will manifest itself in 2024 if Trumps wins the GOP nomination. 

So the GOP should hope Trump doesnt win the nomination but its in  the best interests  of the Dems if he does 

 

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39 minutes ago, Bartimaeus said:

When Trump has been on the ballot in 2016 and 2020, he has majorly outperformed expectations. In both of those elections, it was right on the margin of error for how well he over-performed. He lost the 2020 election by a combined mere 65,009 votes through just four key states (Arizona, Georgia, Wisconsin, and Nebraska) that would have won him the election...and that was after the absolute clown fiesta nightmare 4 years that we experienced with him and with him utterly bungling a deadly global pandemic - if not for just the latter, he absolutely would still be president right now. In 2018 and 2022 when he hasn't been on the ballot, it has been a completely different story. For so many people in this country, Trump is their guy, the only guy that they truly believe in, that nobody else could ever be for them. It is called a cult of personality for a reason, and so while these midterm performances with him as the "leader" of the Republican Party have been weak, I very strongly hope that he does not win the Republican ticket for 2024 because it is my feeling that there is a significant voter base that only he can tap into, and if the Republican party rejects him, that base will neither forgive nor vote for the Republican party, and good riddance to them.

Probably the absolute best scenario, of course, would be that Trump loses the Republican nomination and then still runs independent as an act of revenge. I'm sure the majority of us would love to see that and the resulting implosion.

Conversely, as @ShadySands already said, the anti-Trump vote is a big motivator. To look at those four key states you mentioned: Arizona just flipped Democrat because of Trump backed nominees, both Georgia and Nebraska trend Republican generally, and Wisconsin is a purple state (that got gerrymandered into being deep red on a practical level). All that in mind, it's very possible that a not-Trump Republican would be able to win in those states by not getting people to the polls to vote against them or even get some staunch anti-Trump folks to vote for them.

Really I think the best, and funniest, scenario would be Trump winning or getting close to winning the primary while giving his opponents black eyes, then dropping dead of a heart attack or covid. The third party run would probably peel more votes in a general election, but his primary opponents launching into a war for his throne would very much be an implosion for the party and you'd get a good amount of his cultists refusing to support the pretender. If Trump lost the primary or dropped, he could always direct his cult to getting behind the candidate in exchange for being a kingmaker.

The most likely scenario is that Trump wins the primary and we find ourselves back in 2020. Probably with a new rona variant to boot.

56 minutes ago, Pidesco said:

Actually just being on the permanent rally trail has been an enormous source of income on its own. If it was only money on his mind, I imagine he'd be happy to just keep that going until he keels over and dies.

I'd say he's actually running because he is trying to escape indictments/prosecution/whatever can stick on teflon.

Nothing can stick on Trump, his wealth and sycophants will protect him from any legal consequences he may find thrown at him. Trump is more at risk from his fast food heavy diet than he is from prosecution.

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"you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus

"Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander

"Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador

"You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort

"thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex

"Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock

"Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco

"we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii

"I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing

"feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth

"Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi

"Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor

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"I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands

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