Bartimaeus Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) I have been informed that the following picture is apparently Elrond from The Rings of Power (yes, this is actually real): Spoiler I am now starting to understand what @majestic means when he says the elves don't look quite elven, because these guys look hilarious. However, as I sadly have not watched the actual show, I have the fortunate distinction of being able to pass on discussion of the series in any meaningful capacity. Edited October 15, 2022 by Bartimaeus 3 Quote How I have existed fills me with horror. For I have failed in everything - spelling, arithmetic, riding, tennis, golf; dancing, singing, acting; wife, mistress, whore, friend. Even cooking. And I do not excuse myself with the usual escape of 'not trying'. I tried with all my heart. In my dreams, I am not crippled. In my dreams, I dance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majestic Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Yeah, if your Elrond could just move to Stranger Things and reasonably replace Steve Harrison, there's something very wrong. 1 1 No mind to think. No will to break. No voice to cry suffering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 29 minutes ago, Bartimaeus said: yes, this is actually real No it isn't. 1 1 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "I'm gonna hunt you down so that I can slap you square in the mouth." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "Am I phrasing in the most negative light for them? Yes, but it's not untrue." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Hah, I mean, it's his face. I'm not quite sure what you want done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartimaeus Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 As I wasn't ever going to touch this show with a ten foot pole anyways, it is quite petty and besides the point (also, possibly a little racist...against elves?). If the characters and writing were good, it would be more or less irrelevant immediately. Quote How I have existed fills me with horror. For I have failed in everything - spelling, arithmetic, riding, tennis, golf; dancing, singing, acting; wife, mistress, whore, friend. Even cooking. And I do not excuse myself with the usual escape of 'not trying'. I tried with all my heart. In my dreams, I am not crippled. In my dreams, I dance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoraptor Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 (edited) Not many people know this, but originally RoP was going to be a young Aragorn series and that actor was brought on board to play young Boromir rather than Elrond... Edited October 15, 2022 by Zoraptor 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadySands Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Watched a Redeem Team doc on Netflix. I never paid attention back in '08 because I was super focused on other things. If nothing else, it made me respect Lebron a little bit more but I guess being directly compared to Kobe, as a person, it might be hard to come up short there. Was also interesting to see Kobe's work ethic take over the team. Free games updated 3/4/21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maedhros Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 (edited) On 10/15/2022 at 2:51 AM, Hurlshort said: Reveal hidden contents I never bought that grey robed guy was Sauron. Elrond is a little jarring because Hugo Weaving sets a high bar. Elrond (and his friendship with Durin) is the best part about the show I think. They nailed the "kind as summer" Elrond from the books, unlike Hugo Weaving who is nothing like the character. People like his Elrond because they like Hugo Weaving...who's just being himself. He also looks just as much an elf as bloody Hugo Weaving with his receding hairline did. --- As for the show. The hate and unreasonable criticism it's getting is so over the top. I've read all of Tolkien' writings (including the obscure stuff) a gazillion times and the feel I'm getting is that these guys know Tolkien better than Peter Jackson did. While the showmakers take liberties at times, and invent stuff left and right they kind of have to as there are so many blank spots to fill in, in the second age. The dialogue for the most part is Tolkienian (more so than PJ - "let's hunt some orc!"), and he even had so much dialogue to pick from the books. I'd rate it a decent 7/10, with the expectation that things will get even better now that they've sat things in motion. Big kudos to them that they manage so much with so little to go from, AND with big constraints put on them in terms of where these characters have to end up. I especially loved the dwarven stuff, and the orcs looked better than ever. The dialogue was at times beautiful, and some scenes were much better than they could be expected to be (like the intense back-and-forth with the two Durins). Edited October 16, 2022 by Maedhros 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Yay, someone else here enjoyed RoP. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majestic Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 No mind to think. No will to break. No voice to cry suffering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raithe Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 The Wheel of Time should've gotten The Rings of Power's huge budget (winteriscoming.net) "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartimaeus Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 (edited) It seems like most would agree that budget wasn't really the problem there: don't think throwing more at it would really help. Edited October 16, 2022 by Bartimaeus Quote How I have existed fills me with horror. For I have failed in everything - spelling, arithmetic, riding, tennis, golf; dancing, singing, acting; wife, mistress, whore, friend. Even cooking. And I do not excuse myself with the usual escape of 'not trying'. I tried with all my heart. In my dreams, I am not crippled. In my dreams, I dance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoraptor Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 There clearly were some issues with WoT that were more or less unavoidable due to covid and the actor for Mat quitting. The other two excuses of needing more run time and a bigger budget though... they didn't use the time they had well and they didn't use the money they had well. More of either probably would have ended up with a bad show that had 10 episodes instead of 8 and was more expensive to boot. You're not going to fix bad writing with more time, you just get more bad writing. Case in point, most of an episode being wasted on the utterly peripheral Stepin plot. (Ironically the one thing that may well have helped was if it wasn't an Amazon series. The Witcher was a far better show despite having similar problems, and so were the HBO shows (and I'd include stuff like the His Dark Materials there, not just the GoT series). The bad showrunner for WoT is 100% Amazon's fault, and ultimately most of the avoidable problems stem from him being picked and being out of his depth in pretty much every facet. If you're going to do a big budget complicated series nothing beats experience) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexx Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 (edited) Maybe people have too high expectations? I mean, the original movies are pretty much timeless at this point. I've seen them again last year and it honestly still feels like a movie from "today" and not 21 years ago. It's pretty crazy actually. How the hell are you supposed to compete with that. Edited October 16, 2022 by Lexx 2 "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majestic Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 (edited) Lord Christ, please free me from this mortal coil, this episode of House of the Dragon is so incredibly painful, and I am only through fifteen of its sixty minutes. Please just make it stop. Please. Edited October 19, 2022 by majestic No mind to think. No will to break. No voice to cry suffering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raithe Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 1 "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 44 minutes ago, majestic said: Please just make it stop. Please. @BartimaeusPrepare the Ludovico chair. 1 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "I'm gonna hunt you down so that I can slap you square in the mouth." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "Am I phrasing in the most negative light for them? Yes, but it's not untrue." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majestic Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 59 minutes ago, majestic said: Lord Christ, please free me from this mortal coil, this episode of House of the Dragon is so incredibly painful, and I am only through fifteen of its sixty minutes. Please just make it stop. Please. Well, that was one hell of an ending, and the absolutely stupidest... dumbest... whatever that was. Spoiler Rhaenys ends up having Meleys trained on the entire cast of usurpers, then just ups and leaves out of motherly love because dear Alicent loves her family so much to fight the upcoming civil war on fairer terms. The Boys already streched credulity by Homelander not just murdering everyone, but this is a damned sight dumberer, me thinking. Me like good things. Me like smash. Me will crush you, crush you to goo. Episode spent half its runtime on trying to inject drama into a foregone conclusion but forgetting the most important part about it: it only works if we have characters we like. Yes, I also already knew that Tyrion is going to survive the Battle of Blackwater, but the way there was at least entertaining. It ended up setting an impossible to pass bar within the series that the showrunners nevertheless tried to pass and invariably failed, but it was a fine episode. This? Seriously, nope. Spoiler Gee, they found Aegon and crowned him. How exciting. 1 No mind to think. No will to break. No voice to cry suffering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoraptor Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 (edited) I really must catch up on HotD.. Spoiler ..so I can join in the memes? The commentary I've seen around ep9 certainly makes its end sound like a throwback to later GoT's penchant for 'cool' scenes that made zero sense. (I almost certainly will catch up since it's now only a months sub; guess the two free eps did work in the end...) Edited October 19, 2022 by Zoraptor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsaneCommander Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share Posted October 20, 2022 2 hours ago, majestic said: Well, that was one hell of an ending, and the absolutely stupidest... dumbest... whatever that was. Spoiler Everyone saying she is a badass. Nope, she just missed the greatest opportunity ever. If her granddaughters die she will never forgive herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, InsaneCommander said: Reveal hidden contents Everyone saying she is a badass. Nope, she just missed the greatest opportunity ever. If her granddaughters die she will never forgive herself. Did Quentin Tarantino direct episode 9? "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "I'm gonna hunt you down so that I can slap you square in the mouth." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "Am I phrasing in the most negative light for them? Yes, but it's not untrue." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsaneCommander Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share Posted October 20, 2022 Just now, KP From Another World said: Did Quentin Tarantino direct episode 9? Unfortunately no. The last scene might have been more satisfactory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majestic Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 4 hours ago, KP From Another World said: Did Quentin Tarantino direct episode 9? Yes, but only one scene. No mind to think. No will to break. No voice to cry suffering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uuuhhii Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 last few episode of andor was pretty interesting would be nice to see a few scene of decadence before random arrest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raithe Posted October 23, 2022 Share Posted October 23, 2022 "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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