213374U Posted March 15, 2022 Posted March 15, 2022 Yeah. Let's not get too carried away discussing other users, guys. - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast.
Malcador Posted March 15, 2022 Posted March 15, 2022 Canada is going to be unfriended soon. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Hurlshort Posted March 15, 2022 Posted March 15, 2022 53 minutes ago, 213374U said: Yeah. Let's not get too carried away discussing other users, guys. Even if it is just an algorithm?
Malcador Posted March 15, 2022 Posted March 15, 2022 19 minutes ago, Hurlsnot said: Even if it is just an algorithm? @ComradeYellowYou’re in a desert walking along in the sand when all of the sudden you look down, and you see a tortoise, it’s crawling toward you. You reach down, you flip the tortoise over on its back. The tortoise lays on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over, but it can’t, not without your help. But you’re not helping. Why is that? 1 1 3 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
majestic Posted March 15, 2022 Posted March 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Malcador said: @ComradeYellowYou’re in a desert walking along in the sand when all of the sudden you look down, and you see a tortoise, it’s crawling toward you. You reach down, you flip the tortoise over on its back. The tortoise lays on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over, but it can’t, not without your help. But you’re not helping. Why is that? Because I, too, am a tortoise. Right? RIGHT? 1 No mind to think. No will to break. No voice to cry suffering.
BruceVC Posted March 15, 2022 Author Posted March 15, 2022 18 minutes ago, Malcador said: @ComradeYellowYou’re in a desert walking along in the sand when all of the sudden you look down, and you see a tortoise, it’s crawling toward you. You reach down, you flip the tortoise over on its back. The tortoise lays on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over, but it can’t, not without your help. But you’re not helping. Why is that? I didnt know what you were talking about so I looked it up, very clever https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Voight-Kampff machine "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
ComradeYellow Posted March 15, 2022 Posted March 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Chilloutman said: ''Losing lives for the benefit of arming Nazi's for the sake of NATO is bound to end in defeat.'' can someone translate this to me please? Sure. Since 1945 the American government and their European lacky's have been pro actively arming far right groups across the USSR to beat the Soviets back. 1945-1953 was the peak period of this especially in Ukraine. This current war is just a modern example of prior post war conduct by the U.S.A. It's not really complicated. A grade schooler could spell it out for you. People just don't wanna listen to both sides of the story. The Soviets weren't perfect by any stretch but all parties are guilty of bad conduct.
Totally not Gorgon Posted March 15, 2022 Posted March 15, 2022 I memorized the entire script when I was 17.
Malcador Posted March 15, 2022 Posted March 15, 2022 Some day I will ask a candidate that in an interview. 1 1 1 1 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Chilloutman Posted March 15, 2022 Posted March 15, 2022 28 minutes ago, ComradeYellow said: Sure. Since 1945 the American government and their European lacky's have been pro actively arming far right groups across the USSR to beat the Soviets back. 1945-1953 was the peak period of this especially in Ukraine. This current war is just a modern example of prior post war conduct by the U.S.A. It's not really complicated. A grade schooler could spell it out for you. People just don't wanna listen to both sides of the story. The Soviets weren't perfect by any stretch but all parties are guilty of bad conduct. still don't know who is bound to defeat. anyway, are you saying that America and England which fought WW2 against nazis were since end of WW2 proactively funding nazis? Or is anyone who wanted national suverenity 'far right wing'? Was Prague spring 'far right wing' action? I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
Sarex Posted March 15, 2022 Posted March 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, Chilloutman said: still don't know who is bound to defeat. anyway, are you saying that America and England which fought WW2 against nazis were since end of WW2 proactively funding nazis? Or is anyone who wanted national suverenity 'far right wing'? Was Prague spring 'far right wing' action? America was funding nazis even before and during ww2, not to mention the ones they welcomed after. It's all about interest. "because they filled mommy with enough mythic power to become a demi-god" - KP
Zoraptor Posted March 15, 2022 Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) They've also demonstrably funded so called 'islamofascists' whenever it was convenient, then been surprised at the consequences. Most of the School of the Americas militias get described as 'right wing' instead of nazis, but that's mostly because the west doesn't want to associate with the term nazis, not because their ideology was different. 7 hours ago, Darkpriest said: Yes, but in essence it told US to pound sand and not to try threaten sanctions I am always amused when people read diplomat speak. It's specifically designed so that people can interpret it to support whatever view they have. Chinese FM: "We told the US that it's a big doody head, they dress funny and their mother told me they have a very small winky when I was over last night. Please, bring on the sanctions you pathetic bag of suet" is something that will never be said, even if it were thought. 5 hours ago, Malcador said: I guess it depends on how much they are being wooed to join NATO. But now, well, I guess they are being used a bit - who made the joke about the US fighting to the last Ukrainian ? Me. "Fight militarily to the last Ukrainian, fight economically to the last Euro". But then Sergei Lavrov stole it, the plagiarist. Who would have thought he read these forums? 4 hours ago, Mamoulian War said: EDIT: Unfortunatelly there are also more worrysome news from Mariupol The whole situation in Mariupol is way worse than the Ukrainians claim. It's the one place where there's a lot of pro Russian footage due to the DPR troops, and their videos have been getting geolocated closer and closer to the city centre from the east. That hospital is also well behind the 'official' Ukrainian front lines on the western side. The defenders have also attempted a break out two days ago where they claimed to have retaken Volnovakha (though that claim wasn't even accepted by pro Ukrainians) Edited March 15, 2022 by Zoraptor
Chilloutman Posted March 15, 2022 Posted March 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sarex said: America was funding nazis even before and during ww2, not to mention the ones they welcomed after. It's all about interest. America was 'funding' everyone before WW2 including soviets. What do you mean by 'welcomed after' is again something I totally don't understand I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
Sarex Posted March 15, 2022 Posted March 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, Chilloutman said: America was 'funding' everyone before WW2 including soviets. What do you mean by 'welcomed after' is again something I totally don't understand Operation Paperclip. "because they filled mommy with enough mythic power to become a demi-god" - KP
Chilloutman Posted March 15, 2022 Posted March 15, 2022 8 minutes ago, Sarex said: Operation Paperclip. lol, that was taking scientists to work for US yeah, they were not funding them because they were nazis, or to promote nazism. Thats crucial point. Anyway you didn't responded to any question I asked you so I think our conversation can be closed I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted March 15, 2022 Posted March 15, 2022 12 minutes ago, Chilloutman said: America was 'funding' everyone before WW2 including soviets. What do you mean by 'welcomed after' is again something I totally don't understand Sarex already beat me with operation paperclip, but there's also everything from supporting dictators and coups like Pinochet to police being infiltrated by white supremacists to congressmen going to white nationalist conferences. One way or another, the US does kick a lot of money to reactionaries. nb4 these aren't real nazis but sparkling white supremacists 1 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands
BruceVC Posted March 15, 2022 Author Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, bugarup said: It would not have been fine, as I think it's quite apparent now that Russia cannot - nor does it want to, or ever wanted in the first place - play nice with its neighbours. And judging by recent "NATO or no NATO" polls, Finland have not yet forgotten Talvisota as well. On slightly more bittersweet news, here's the ballsiest woman of Russia. Fingers crossed KGB filth do not disappear her. It looks like she was charged for hooliganism and only fined Clearly their was too much international attention on her arrest, the UN human rights commission even got involved. Good to know the Ruskies didnt want to martyr her and draw more negative attention to the train wreck of Putins War https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/15/marina-ovsyannikova-russian-journalist-fined-for-live-broadcast-protest Edited March 15, 2022 by BruceVC 1 "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Chilloutman Posted March 15, 2022 Posted March 15, 2022 1 minute ago, BruceVC said: It looks like she was charged for hooliganism and only fined Clearly their was too much international attention on her arrest, the UN human rights commission even got involved. Good to know the Ruskies didnt want to martyr her and draw more negative attention to the train wreck of Putins War not really fine was only one charge, she still have the second one for 15 years... 1 I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
BruceVC Posted March 15, 2022 Author Posted March 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, Chilloutman said: not really fine was only one charge, she still have the second one for 15 years... I posted a link after that post, she probably wont be charged with anything else but you never know "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
213374U Posted March 15, 2022 Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Chilloutman said: America was 'funding' everyone before WW2 including soviets. No. The only US started pumping money (and equipment) into the Soviet Union when it became useful to do so to keep the Germans bleeding out in the East. In fact, one of the main reasons why Roosevelt attempted to restore diplomatic relations with the USSR pre-war was so the latter would resume Tsarist-era debt payments to the US. Another was to have the Soviets act as a sort of counterweight to Japan in the Pacific. Edited March 15, 2022 by 213374U - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast.
Chilloutman Posted March 15, 2022 Posted March 15, 2022 8 minutes ago, 213374U said: No. The only US started pumping money (and equipment) into the Soviet Union when it became useful to do so to keep the Germans bleeding out in the East So yes? I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
213374U Posted March 15, 2022 Posted March 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Chilloutman said: So yes? 39 minutes ago, Chilloutman said: America was 'funding' everyone before WW2 including soviets. No, not really. - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast.
Chilloutman Posted March 15, 2022 Posted March 15, 2022 26 minutes ago, 213374U said: No, not really. https://share.america.gov/america-sent-equipment-to-soviet-union-in-world-war-ii/ there was also trade before what is mentioned in above. America was and is profiteering on any war from WW1. I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
Gfted1 Posted March 15, 2022 Posted March 15, 2022 Elon Musk challenges Vladimir Putin to a duel | Space "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
kanisatha Posted March 15, 2022 Posted March 15, 2022 5 hours ago, HoonDing said: "realism v. liberalism" LOL, you guys do understand that the word "liberalism" when used in academic (i.e. political science/international relations) discussions is completely different from that same word used in US domestic politics, right? In other words: liberal/realist, versus liberal/conservative, where those two "liberals" do not at all mean the same thing.
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