28 minutes ago, Volourn said:

So.. the very people you claim to 'defend' because of bad words are saying clearly they are not offended by it. It is a job description. That's it.

Isn't that a classic MO of various defenders of "putanamehere" population?

36 minutes ago, Volourn said:

"For example in  SA  people , including domestic workers, often refer to themselves as " maids or servants " but I dont because domestic worker is just a better term to describe an important job "

So.. the very people you claim to 'defend' because of bad words are saying clearly they are not offended by it. It is a job description. That's it.

 

P.S. The Carlin video is exactly what I was getting at it. 

It could be worse, here in Sweden you get a taxbreak for hiring a maid. I mean... ****...

50 minutes ago, Volourn said:

"For example in  SA  people , including domestic workers, often refer to themselves as " maids or servants " but I dont because domestic worker is just a better term to describe an important job "

So.. the very people you claim to 'defend' because of bad words are saying clearly they are not offended by it. It is a job description. That's it.

 

P.S. The Carlin video is exactly what I was getting at it. 

So this is not about defending anyone and yes the majority of actual people who do this job dont fundamentally care because the work conditions and salary is much more important than what you and I want to call them

But my real point is its not about them but what you and I personally decide to refer to them as, we are defined by our words in life in many areas so I always try to use the better framing of how we refer to things, domestic worker sounds much better than maid

Ask yourself this, if you were doing housework as a permanent job how would you like people to describe your job title ?

Edited May 27, 20205 yr by BruceVC

1 hour ago, BruceVC said:

domestic worker sounds much better than maid

How so? The word maid comes from the word maiden which isn't a bad word. And I don't think it was used as an insult, like ever. The bad connotation can only come from the things that this occupation involves which doesn't change with a new name as Volo pointed out. Funnily enough the term maid was coined because young girls from nobility and such often became maids for more powerful aristocracy members and it would be inapropriate to call them servants.

5 hours ago, Volourn said:

"For example in  SA  people , including domestic workers, often refer to themselves as " maids or servants " but I dont because domestic worker is just a better term to describe an important job "

So.. the very people you claim to 'defend' because of bad words are saying clearly they are not offended by it. It is a job description. That's it.

 

P.S. The Carlin video is exactly what I was getting at it. 

Obscure Job titles are good

Like for example I call myself coder, but my job title is senior software architect, I still mainly code but my monthly salary is 10k € higher than those whose job title is coder 💸

EDIT: I mean which sound that they earn more money maid or senior domestic maintenance officer 😃

 

Edited May 27, 20205 yr by Elerond

Holy moly you make a lot of money!

4 minutes ago, Gfted1 said:

Holy moly you make a lot of money!

"Only" ~7000€/month after taxes

Edited May 27, 20205 yr by Elerond
added humility quotation marks

49 minutes ago, Elerond said:

Obscure Job titles are good

Like for example I call myself coder, but my job title is senior software architect, I still mainly code but my monthly salary is 10k € higher than those whose job title is coder 💸

EDIT: I mean which sound that they earn more money maid or senior domestic maintenance officer 😃

 

I'm pretty sure that there are "maids" out there that make the buck you do, but I'm pretty certain their customers are worse...

Heh, by March you've earned as much as I do in an entire year, and I have 6-7 different job-descriptions..

On 5/25/2020 at 5:44 PM, rjshae said:

The age based high risk group is 65 or older, so DOB around 1955.  Meaning that when this ad campaign first started, that group was 17.  The ads ran until 1984 (an unprecedented 12 years!) meaning its conceivable that those in their early 40s would remember the ad from their childhood.  Heck, the child actor who played "Mikey" is himself only about 51 or so, so also outside the high risk category.

I remenber Mikey and I am 41. I figured it was an attempt to poke gen-x. Being part of gen-x, I just ignore it.

"Isn't that a classic MO of various defenders of "putanamehere" population? "

 

More than often.

 

"But my real point is its not about them but what you and I personally decide to refer to them as, we are defined by our words in life in many areas so I always try to use the better framing of how we refer to things, domestic worker sounds much better than maid"

No. No, it doesn't. It sounds ridiculous, insulting, and pathetic.

 

 

"Ask yourself this, if you were doing housework as a permanent job how would you like people to describe your job title ?"

 

I wouldn't give a ****. If I was a **** shoveler, I'd be fine being called a **** shoveler. lmao

 

 

24 minutes ago, Hurlshot said:

I remenber Mikey and I am 41. I figured it was an attempt to poke gen-x. Being part of gen-x, I just ignore it.

Its pretty weak sauce if the attempt was to poke at Gen-X.  

But maybe there aren't enough people who remember Big Otis from Kellog's OKs or something for them to actually target the 55+ crowd?

They should relaunch that, but with Lil' Jon on the cover

 

https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/n7wb78/we-asked-canadian-anti-lockdown-protesters-what-their-deal-is

Some of the anti-lockdown protestors on why they are doing so.  Only a couple are out there - thinking this is slavery (somehow) or a plot to control population growth (cue NSF Leader at the top of the statue).

 

Edited May 27, 20205 yr by Malcador

20 hours ago, Elerond said:

Obscure Job titles are good

Like for example I call myself coder, but my job title is senior software architect, I still mainly code but my monthly salary is 10k € higher than those whose job title is coder 💸

EDIT: I mean which sound that they earn more money maid or senior domestic maintenance officer 😃

 

Elerond !!!  Why you being an elitist about your job title....dont you know people outside of IT dont really know or care about our various job descriptions as we all seen as " computer PC people " 

 

But on a serious note, I appreciate your point and I can understand your own view on this but in most IT companies your job title reflects your experience and job responsibility and of course your salary. I studied finance but ended up working in software primarily in the financial sector. Basically I am a software consultant but there are different titles in IT that do matter, so you will have ( for example )

• software consultant 
• senior software consultant 
• product specialist 

I imagine your company is the same, a coder is the beginner in programming but then as you advance you will get to senior software architect. I cannot believe your job responsibilities are the same ? 

But I also understand there is nothing wrong with referring to yourself as a coder because you still are one 

 

22 hours ago, Hurlshot said:

I remenber Mikey and I am 41. I figured it was an attempt to poke gen-x. Being part of gen-x, I just ignore it.

No, it's just a bit of harmless humor.

Wouldn't rat cannibalism be a good thing?

Rat cannabalism is really common. They'll eat their own young if they're a bit peckish and want a snack. You also tend to get 'rat home invasions' every autumn/ winter when it gets cold.

The Skaven hordes gather, it is the End Time.

so glad this hoax is finally over

Edited May 30, 20205 yr by HoonDing

On 5/29/2020 at 12:00 AM, Malcador said:

The Skaven hordes gather, it is the End Time.

Eat all the man-things, yes-yes.

Disputed Hydroxychloroquine Study Brings Scrutiny to Surgisphere

"Scientists have raised questions about the dataset published in The Lancet last week that triggered the suspension of clinical trials around the world—and about Surgisphere Corporation, the company behind the study."

At the moment scientists should be raising questions about any published study involving covid-19 since none of them will have been rigorously peer reviewed and most will be using non ideal to somewhat shonky methodology due to being rushed, not being independently selected datasets/ not being able to take all confounding factors into account. Having said that, they're certainly not the only study to have found higher mortality from HCQ, just the biggest and most recent.

Edited May 31, 20205 yr by Zoraptor

Right. I've read a few things floating around that happened to come not from published studies but preprints even. I think there's a risk that this recent tendency to expect from scientists definite and quick answers will damage trust on science -- even without help from dishonest "scientists".