ktchong Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) This is why China is going to win. Let's face it: America's real problem is not Trump, not Democrats or Republicans. America's real problem is... the low quality of the American people. I'm not entirely know how America has devolved to this point. IMO it's probably a toxic mix of Evangelism (stupidity) and libertarianism (immorality) that started in the 1960s and, over the decades, has taken over the whole country and culture. Nowadays too many Americans are just... low quality, of much lower quality than people from so many other countries. And it ain't the fault of immigrants, because look at all these low-quality people... they are all white. And that's not something that any government, politician or system can fix. Republicans can't fix it. Democrats can't fix it. Seriously, I really don't think a nation filled with people of this quality will be able to compete against China. Say whatever you want about Chinese: that Chinese are dishonest, deceptive, immoral, lack creativity, or whatever, but Chinese people are not this stupid, and certainly not to this degree or scale. Ultimately, the quality of the people matters, for foundation and strength of a country... and all this just does not bore well for America. Edited April 28, 2020 by ktchong 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjshae Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Yep, that's right, all Americans are alike. Wow, you've summed us up so well. Good luck. "It has just been discovered that research causes cancer in rats." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 ktchong is a CCP plant. Get him!!! 1 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skazz Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 56 minutes ago, Malcador said: ktchong is a CCP plant. Get him!!! I'm confused now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartimaeus Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 29 minutes ago, Skazz said: I'm confused now. Chinese Communist Party. I could easily see ktchong being an astroturfer of some kind, but I don't know if I'd put money on the CCP. 1 Quote How I have existed fills me with horror. For I have failed in everything - spelling, arithmetic, riding, tennis, golf; dancing, singing, acting; wife, mistress, whore, friend. Even cooking. And I do not excuse myself with the usual escape of 'not trying'. I tried with all my heart. In my dreams, I am not crippled. In my dreams, I dance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 7 hours ago, ktchong said: This is why China is going to win. Let's face it: America's real problem is not Trump, not Democrats or Republicans. America's real problem is... the low quality of the American people. I'm not entirely know how America has devolved to this point. IMO it's probably a toxic mix of Evangelism (stupidity) and libertarianism (immorality) that started in the 1960s and, over the decades, has taken over the whole country and culture. Nowadays too many Americans are just... low quality, of much lower quality than people from so many other countries. And it ain't the fault of immigrants, because look at all these low-quality people... they are all white. And that's not something that any government, politician or system can fix. Republicans can't fix it. Democrats can't fix it. Seriously, I really don't think a nation filled with people of this quality will be able to compete against China. Say whatever you want about Chinese: that Chinese are dishonest, deceptive, immoral, lack creativity, or whatever, but Chinese people are not this stupid, and certainly not to this degree or scale. Ultimately, the quality of the people matters, for foundation and strength of a country... and all this just does not bore well for America. Oh no the Chinese are even more stupid than the Americans, the perfect example of this is the genesis of the virus and how it came from an exotic animal market...think about how stupid you must be to know that viruses have come more than once from these markets and animals and you still allow them to continue to be open? And to make things worse and to highlight how stupid the Chinese are they are worlds experts on viruses because most of these global viruses like SARS come from your own country ....yet you dont do anything about it until Corona. The Chinese kept all exotic animal markets open until now ....now that is stupid "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Bartimaeus said: Chinese Communist Party. I could easily see ktchong being an astroturfer of some kind, but I don't know if I'd put money on the CCP. I also doubt he is CCP because he is so obvious with his trolling and support for China he undermines them ....proper CCP internet propaganda is generally more subtle on any english forum. He would be a really bad CCP agent if he was being paid to be one Edited April 29, 2020 by BruceVC "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raithe Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 2 "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skarpen Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Coronavirus goes to new levels of threat: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raithe Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 1 3 "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elerond Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 3 hours ago, Skarpen said: Coronavirus goes to new levels of threat: All three may actually be same news, considering that second is from DailyMail and third picture is from Daily Express Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 EXPERTS: People probably arent actually catching Covid again. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/28/spanish-official-apologises-for-spraying-beach-with-bleach-coronavirus From the Ripley school of problem solving. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartimaeus Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 I love that they did it in preparation of the beaches re-opening after six weeks of being closed down. Any trace of coronavirus would've died off by then: just killing the normal life there. Quote How I have existed fills me with horror. For I have failed in everything - spelling, arithmetic, riding, tennis, golf; dancing, singing, acting; wife, mistress, whore, friend. Even cooking. And I do not excuse myself with the usual escape of 'not trying'. I tried with all my heart. In my dreams, I am not crippled. In my dreams, I dance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjshae Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 I want to see VP Pence do a tour of an active meat packing plant. Maskless, so he can "look people in the eyes". (Seriously, what the actual f*ck?) Come on, suck it up buttercup. "It has just been discovered that research causes cancer in rats." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
213374U Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 5 hours ago, Bartimaeus said: I love that they did it in preparation of the beaches re-opening after six weeks of being closed down. Any trace of coronavirus would've died off by then: just killing the normal life there. Furthermore, there have been no reported cases of COVID-19 in that township. This is the result of two months of non-stop plague journalism. It's easy to point and laugh at the genius who came up with this idea, but what the news don't tell you is how hysterical the autochthonous karens and kyles have got about this. I have very little doubt that many people would have considered it a great idea if some ecologist hadn't raised a huge stink. It's to protect the children, you can never be too careful, and so on. - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorth Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 23 hours ago, BruceVC said: And to make things worse and to highlight how stupid the Chinese are they are worlds experts on viruses because most of these global viruses like SARS come from your own country ....yet you dont do anything about it until Corona. The Chinese kept all exotic animal markets open until now ....now that is stupid They did do something... arrested the whistleblower who tried to warn the world and he was dead shortly after 1 “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 45 minutes ago, Gorth said: They did do something... arrested the whistleblower who tried to warn the world and he was dead shortly after You right I did forget that, the Chinese did do something.....obfuscated and tried to hide the truth in the beginning ..as usual Gorthfuscious, you want to see something scary. Read the article below ( I included 2 similar ones because you may not be able to access NYT ) to see how naive and generally misinformed we were about the true nature of the virus. The article seems almost surreal and hard to think anyone could have believed that about the virus ...and a huge part of this is because of how China didnt reveal the true nature as far as they did indeed know it This article is dated 20/01/2020...the first case of the virus in there country was the 1/12/2019 so they would definitely seen more of the real impact and spread in 50 days And this is the country some people are suggesting is going to become the next world leader https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/20/world/asia/coronavirus-china-symptoms.html https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/01/20/797926447/coronavirus-in-china-over-200-cases-human-to-human-transmission Gorfuscious "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorth Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 3 hours ago, BruceVC said: \This article is dated 20/01/2020...the first case of the virus in there country was the 1/12/2019 so they would definitely seen more of the real impact and spread in 50 days And this is the country some people are suggesting is going to become the next world leader The first link worked fine. NYT encourages people to sub, but I don't think they enforce it (although The Guardian is normally my goto paper newpaper sites) Nothing new or surprising, as Australian news (ABC News) pretty much covered all these details as they unfolded. Like watching a car crash in slow motion, without any ability to avoid it. Nice to have it all in one place though. I don't think China is destined for any greatness to be honest. Besides, the EU will fall more and more apart over the years and I would be surprised if the US is around in 100 years time (at least in a recognizable form) Wealth inequality and debt fueled economy isn't working long term, social unrest will eventually be the end. 1 “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgon Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 People tend to forget what the EU is good at versus what it is bad at. It's really good at being a growth factor in the economies, it's less good at being a political entity, and less good at handling a crisis. But... If we don't want a European superstate then what we have is not going to be good at handling a crisis. You can't complain about both things at the same time. I think the political entity is going to be dialed back some, and that's not a bad outcome either. Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 10 minutes ago, Gorgon said: People tend to forget what the EU is good at versus what it is bad at. It's really good at being a growth factor in the economies, it's less good at being a political entity, and less good at handling a crisis. But... If we don't want a European superstate then what we have is not going to be good at handling a crisis. You can't complain about both things at the same time. I think the political entity is going to be dialed back some, and that's not a bad outcome either. In what way do you mean it is going to be dialed back some, can you give some practical examples so I understand the point you making? "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgon Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Less influence for the Eurpean Council and Parliament in recognition that it hasn't really handled either this or the previous crisis very well. The internal market will plow on, because it makes money. 1 Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Gorgon said: Less influence for the Eurpean Council and Parliament in recognition that it hasn't really handled either this or the previous crisis very well. The internal market will plow on, because it makes money. Can you separate the influence of the European Council and Parliament from the huge success of the EU single market? In other words the EU only really exists and is sustainable because of the huge economic and trade benefits of the single market, its not a military union for example. But it requires certain rights to be driven and enforced from the overarching EU parliament and this includes regulations. I guess what Im asking is what specific laws or regulations do you think should change or will be changed in the future. I am no expert on EU laws so Im wanting to understand what you think will change My real concern is the reason why other unions like the Arab League and African Union have failed primarily is because there is no enforcement of the laws and regulations that are suppose to create similar environments like the EU single market. So you need the influence and enforcement to ensure consensus which leads to economic growth and sustainability "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjshae Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Some good news: Recovered Covid-19 patients retest positive due to 'dead' virus fragments — South Korea Quote They said that apparent reinfection cases came because fragments of the virus remained in their bodies and showed up in test kits. 2 "It has just been discovered that research causes cancer in rats." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 29 minutes ago, rjshae said: Some good news: Recovered Covid-19 patients retest positive due to 'dead' virus fragments — South Korea This is great news, I was worried about what the stories of reinfection meant 2 "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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