Pathfinder Kingmaker is bigger then Deadfire

[Tale]

A neutral evil vampire cutie? Well well well.

[IndiraLightfoot]

A neutral evil vampire cutie? Well well well.

What could be more 80's than that? Prince singing Purple Rain?

Edited September 25, 2018 by IndiraLightfoot

[InsaneCommander]

Because I dont like cute little kids in team of killers xD

 

It depends on your team, of course. But I have been chaotic characters in my last games (DOS2 and Deadfire) so I'm currently considering playing as a LG or NG character, who would prefer more amenable and well-behaved people.

 

However, based on what Indira is saying, there are very interesting evil/chaotic characters.

[Tigranes]

Are those the base portraits? They are.... pretty incredible.

 

I mean, I can totally get with a campy, B-movie style high fantasy adventure module.

 

From screenshots, they really knocked it out of the park with the UI conveniences.

[IndiraLightfoot]

Yep! Except for my imported portrait, everything in my screenies is base portraits.

[majestic]

I played the tutorial three times with different characters to see what I would like and sometimes my characters with higher persuasion failed easier skill checks while those with lower charisma and less persuasion succeeded.

 

Then it dawned on me. Roll D20, add skill modifier(s) and compare against DC.

[Sarex]

Do you roll for attributes in character creation like in D&D?

[ShadySands]

Do you roll for attributes in character creation like in D&D?

It's a point system

[Tigranes]

Right, it's a 3.5ed derivative, no? We ain't getting an official AD&D, so this is probably as good as it gets.

[Vitalis]

As expected, the races were heavily slashed, same with the classes, and some of the archetypes chosen are the worst.

 

I was also hoping for more portraits, oh well.

Edited September 25, 2018 by Vitalis

[Chilloutman]

heh, got into some trading post, game throw at me 8 attackers while I have 4 lvl 2 characters, died in that encounter already 4 times and it seems like its first real encounter, not sure what to do differently as game position my characters before battle so I can't do basically anything differently, weird

[the_dog_days]

Playing a half-orc monk but forgot to add a few more points into CON. 

[InsaneCommander]

Yep! Except for my imported portrait, everything in my screenies is base portraits.

 

Out of curiosity, can you just add portraits like in Pillars of Eternity? I think there are three sizes. Do you know their sizes? I'm already checking my portrait gallery for anything that looks well for a King.

[Hiro Protagonist II]

This has exceeded my expectations and glad I backed this. Having a lot of fun playing D&D again. This is the game I've been waiting so many years for,

[ShadySands]

heh, got into some trading post, game throw at me 8 attackers while I have 4 lvl 2 characters, died in that encounter already 4 times and it seems like its first real encounter, not sure what to do differently as game position my characters before battle so I can't do basically anything differently, weird

Did you...

 

recruit the old guy that lobs fire bombs and have Oleg ambush the bandits?

 

[aksrasjel]

A neutral evil vampire cutie? Well well well.

And as per tradition you can't romance her. Curse this hollow world.

[IndiraLightfoot]

heh, got into some trading post, game throw at me 8 attackers while I have 4 lvl 2 characters, died in that encounter already 4 times and it seems like its first real encounter, not sure what to do differently as game position my characters before battle so I can't do basically anything differently, weird

Welcome to NWN CRPG spawning, for the most part!

 

 

Yep! Except for my imported portrait, everything in my screenies is base portraits.

 

Out of curiosity, can you just add portraits like in Pillars of Eternity? I think there are three sizes. Do you know their sizes? I'm already checking my portrait gallery for anything that looks well for a King.

 

Adding portrait is very easy. There are templates, which tell you the exact pizel sizes for Small, Medium and Fulllength in your AppData folder, under Owlcat, it's called Portraits. Simply replace them with .png files of those exact measurements, and then you need to do this process at character creation for best results. You can do it afterwards, but IIRC, one of the portraits will mess with your game somewhat.

 

 

heh, got into some trading post, game throw at me 8 attackers while I have 4 lvl 2 characters, died in that encounter already 4 times and it seems like its first real encounter, not sure what to do differently as game position my characters before battle so I can't do basically anything differently, weird

Did you...

 

recruit the old guy that lobs fire bombs and have Oleg ambush the bandits?

 

 

My party - still level 1 then, by a tiny margin - cruised by this encounter at first try. Why? Well, I had to take a peek at ShadySands's solution, and that one I've missed entirely, 

but…

 

Oleg later wondered if I had seen a guy run away or perhaps I acknowledged that my party had seen him, which I totally did. He looked like a ghost, since it was dark.

 

 

...I didn't do it like that.

I had used my party formation wisely. Up front I had Amiri (as you saw in my random encounter pic, she's quick and she hits super hard at lvl 1) and Harrim, a cleric, which you can deck with even better armor, which I got for him during the tutorial. Linzi uses her crossbow, and she hits pretty reliably, and I run up and flank whatever Amiri and Harrim's bashing, for even more slashing damage. It was over very quickly, for them.

Edited September 26, 2018 by IndiraLightfoot

[ShadySands]

I forgot how sucky it is to be a low level caster

[IndiraLightfoot]

Yeah, and level 1, as well as lvl 2 and 3 to a certain extent, is pretty much do or die territory for all classes, since no party member really can't take any hit to speak of, and I play at a higher difficulty with extra damage from the baddies, so I'm trying to be defensive, although it feels a bit futile. My Magus often takes one hit, and she's brittle, with pretty bad armor, but I use the spell Shield, which is far more useful than what peeps give it credit for. A duration of one minute per level is an eternity in most fights in a game like this.

Edited September 26, 2018 by IndiraLightfoot

[Tigranes]

Remember playing BG1* on Hard or Insane? That mothercrocker in the north side house of Candlekeep could murder you dead and you'd be rerolling before the tutorial was over.

 

I'm hearing great things about how it really feels like an IE knockoff. It's funny to say it, but after 20 years of never getting one, I'm happy to have a Baldur's Gate clone from Russia.

 

*(The actual original, not the modded ports to BG2 engine, or the beamdog crap, because all of that changes the power equation to yield a different experience for better or for worse)

[IndiraLightfoot]

This neat Pathfinder CRPG with love from Russia makes me recall something that feels like yesterday. Obsidian gave us a survey literally packed with questions about if we would like to see a Pathfinder CRPG made by the Obsidz. I merrily said "Yes, please" to just about all of those suggestions. Thereafter, no more word on that. Am I ridiculously optimistic in hoping that OE may produce something Pathfinder-licious with Paizo cheering 'em on? I know, PoE is similar in many ways, but the survey certainly had no problems with suggesting that we could have them both from Obsidian.

Edited September 26, 2018 by IndiraLightfoot

[Mamoulian War]

What about evil character playthrough? Does it make sense (especially in dialogue options) or is it like in most Bioware games, where the only option was being evil is being crazy murderous psychopath? Or the game offers also more subtle evil ways and scheming?

[IndiraLightfoot]

@Mamoulian War: Since I'm on a crazed CN rampage in my 1st playthru, I honestly don't know, but IIRC, this article certainly hints at it being more nuanced and interesting:

https://wccftech.com...kingmaker-crpg/

 

Also, I've watched a Owlcat vid where they say that you can rule your kingdom in various evil ways. Sounds promising, no?

[majestic]

heh, got into some trading post, game throw at me 8 attackers while I have 4 lvl 2 characters, died in that encounter already 4 times and it seems like its first real encounter, not sure what to do differently as game position my characters before battle so I can't do basically anything differently, weird

 

I only tried the battle on normal difficulty so far but you can do a couple of things that really help out:

 

 

 

• Talk Oleg into setting a trap with Alchemist's Fire
• Recruit the Alchemist to lob fire bombs
• Spread tar to slow them down
• Set traps

All in all they came up and half of them died instantly.

 

 

Remember playing BG1* on Hard or Insane? That mothercrocker in the north side house of Candlekeep could murder you dead and you'd be rerolling before the tutorial was over.

 

Heh. Hard or insane? If you picked a Wizard and had an unlucky dice roll for hit points the guys could one-shot you while you're in the middle of casting magic missile... on any difficulty.

 

That's how my first ever BG character - a necromancer - fared. Game over after Larloch's Minor Drain failed to kill Shank.

[Manveru123]

Playing a half-orc monk but forgot to add a few more points into CON. 

I did something better. Created a Sorc, maxed Charisma (as you normally would on a Sorc), started the game. Got past the Trading Post, had a few rests along the way, but still 0/0 spell uses and had to use Cantrips all the time. Was very confused. Turned out I picked a Bloodline that changed my main stat to INT... had to restart :D