Should the Kapana Taga change its weapon type to club?

[Fluffle]

Greetings everyone,

it seems there is only one unique club in the game, but many unique swords. So Aarik approached me and asked if they could change the type of the Kapana Taga to club.

The Kapana Taga is based on a macuahuitl which can be seen as both a sword and a club.

You will be able to find many sources on the Internet that call it club or sword or both.

The question here is, what is your preference. Would you like its type changed to club? Everything else about the weapon would stay the same.

Also note, the decision to change its type or not is not bound by the result of this poll. I would just like to know what everyone thinks about this. But in the end, the backers of the weapon will have the final word on this.

Edited May 22, 2018 by Fluffle

[Katarack21]

This will actually negatively effect my current playthrough, as I'm not specced for clubs on my main melee weapon. However, it's stats appear as one of the best weapons in the game that I've found, and making it a club will go a long ways towards making clubs much more viable as weapons.

[E.RedMark]

I have no idea what you talking about ! But if you put a poll with buttons to click......I have to click click click!  

 

anyway , looked up this thing..weapon . It say it's a sword..but look like a club...

 

I never..ever...used a club..just cose they are ugly as weapon . And If it look like a club..call it a club...

[Katarack21]

I have no idea what you talking about ! But if you put a poll with buttons to click......I have to click click click!

 

anyway , looked up this thing..weapon . It say it's a sword..but look like a club...

 

I never..ever...used a club..just cose they are ugly as weapon . And If it look like a club..call it a club...

It's basically a club with razor sharp blades along the edge. So...yeah.

[Aridea]

Well, there are tons of swords in the game and not nearly enough clubs.

Edited May 22, 2018 by Aridea

[esyvjrt]

Why not both

[Fluffle]

Why not both

Yep. This.

 

Like I said in the Black Isle Bastards thread, we would need "multiclassing" i.e. "multitypes" for this kind of weapon.

 

In a way, it's both club and sword. Of course it's neither a typical sword nor a typical club (it's flat for example).

But it can be considered sword-like and club-like.

 

 

Edited May 22, 2018 by Fluffle

[Katarack21]

I agree, but barring that I think club actually makes most sense--especially with that ability, "Razor Bladed Bludgeon".

[Fluffle]

So, one other question:

In the description text of the Kapana Taga, the weapon is currently referred to as an "obsidian sword".

To my ears, "obsidian sword" sounds awesome. That is also how macuahuitls in our world can be referred to.
However, "obsidian club" does not quite have the same ring in my ears.

So the question would be: If the type is changed to club, should the description text change as well?

A bit strange, huh, when you have a weapon that is a club but it's referenced as a sword.
On the other hand, exactly that can be seen as a way to express the duality of this weapon's nature.

Edited May 22, 2018 by Fluffle

[Katarack21]

In real live, when first encountered by Europeans, macuahuitl's were referred to as both swords and clubs, depending on the person and the situation where they were encountered. I personally wouldn't have a problem with that, but it might be seen as confusing to people who don't know what a macuahuitl is and don't understand the reason for the mismatch of type and description.

[Parasol_Syndicate]

Tekehu is specced for clubs, not swords.

This culturally seems like the kind of weapon he'd be trained on. 
I'll leave it up to everyone's ample imagination what would happen if you tried to half-sword on an obsidian-edged plank. 

[ShadySands]

Unless it can be multityped I'd prefer it if they just make a new club and called it Lang.

[Skazz]

Unless it can be multityped I'd prefer it if they just make a new club and called it Lang.

 

Edited May 22, 2018 by Skazz

[Jorian Drake]

a club with slash/bludgeon damage type

 

or, in the game the player char is asked how he wishes to wield it and appears in inventory as either sword or club

Edited May 22, 2018 by Jorian Drake

[Varana]

Voted "no preference" but in the end, I'm fine with it, and there being very few unique clubs is a convincing argument.

As for the "obsidian sword", I'd think that rephrasing the description would be better. Maybe including a line like "Macahuitl are often called obsidian swords" for the bad*ssery. :D

[rheingold]

Really not concerned either way. If they want to change it go for it.

[Dr. Hieronymous Alloy]

Why not both

 

 

Yeah this would be the ideal presuming it's possible in the code. If not, yeah, patch it over to clubs. There aren't enough clubs in game as is.

[JerekKruger]

If they can give it both types that'd be cool. Otherwise I have no particular preference either way. It's true that there are too many swords and hardly any clubs but it's also true that proficiencies mean very little for non-fighters.

[Ashen Rohk]

Don't mind either way!

[flamesium]

Just drop one of each type at the same time. Not like it's going to make or break the game.

[Wormerine]

There are way to many swords and sabres. I liked the idea of sword with crush damage a lot, but I vote “yes”.

[Dr. Hieronymous Alloy]

Isn't this a backer item? for the Black Isle Bastards? Might need to consult with said backers on this.

[Fluffle]

I'm having a bit of a harder time with this as I thought I would.

There may be only one unique club in the game, true.

And there may be many unique swords, true. But there is only one unique sword that offers crush damage. That makes the Kapana Taga truly special in my eyes. As a sword!

From a club I'd expect crush damage.

And if you then change its type to club and don't call it an "obsidian sword" anymore in the description text either. Well then I don't feel it's the same weapon anymore, even though technically speaking it still is. I do like referencing the macuahuitl as an "obsidian sword" though. That is how you can call them too in our world.

So in short, I feel that the Kapana Tage is far more unique, special and outstanding as a sword, not a club.

Also I'm not sure if the lack of clubs is "our problem" (i.e. the problem of the BIB backers) so to say. And I'm not sure that one additional unique club is solving the shortage of unique clubs.

From future DLCs I would expect more unique clubs to be added anyway. And then the Kapana Taga would be less special as a club. But it would always be special as a sword for its crush damage.

Edited May 23, 2018 by Fluffle

[JerekKruger]

Well part of the reason I voted "no preference either way" is that I expect Obsidian to do something about the weapon distribution in the upcoming DLCs anyway, so if you feel like Kapana Taga should remain an obsidian sword (and I can see why you do) then I'd say it should remain a sword.

[Fluffle]

And that would be my question to all those who voted yes:

Have you voted yes because you see the Kapana Taga as something more like a club than a sword?
Or have you voted yes, because you want more unique clubs and less unique swords in the game?

Edited May 23, 2018 by Fluffle