DarthNihilus

1.Game is unfinished(HK factory missing,sluggish coding/textures,dialogues that lead nowhere when they should and the crap endings) 2.Ocassional glitches and other finesse thingies awfuly corrupt(when the original had none or too few) 3. The BIG thing..actually quote from teh README.TXT in Docs: "-------------------------------------------------------------- STAR WARS KNIGHTS OF THE OLD REPUBLIC II Manual Errata/Updates -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ Known Issues ------------ -------------------- Intermittent Crashes -------------------- The game may freeze or crash to a blank screen if you play in one level for extended periods of time. This was typically seen when playing the game between thirty and forty minutes without transitioning to a new level or movie. We recommend that you save the game often to avoid losing progress if you encounter this issue." I mean WTF is this? Just because u tell me that u coded SO badly teh game I should take the BS and live with it???? We paid for a FINISHED product NOT a crap Beta test or a "Oh well..we`ll patch it or not we really don`t care since u already paid us teh money u fools" ..and we are wondering why there are so many cracked copies around... I`m afraid that we bought ONLY the name and NOT the game since that can be called easily pre-release

Then I have to step up the pace and finish it at least 4 times more upping to 6 to REALLY know..gosh it`s hard to remember all the plots... Go Obsidian for a decent storyline(the worked one not the rushed one) Shame Kotor 1 for a linear one

Ummm... 1.I sided with Vaklu thus Jedi Master will end up a lil` dead so he can`t contact me..or does he? 2.I finished all that could be done on Dxun and since Onderon can`t be travelled to I`m stuck with doing WHOLE Korriban BEFORE making Onderon? OUCH!!! Clear question: LS I remember I was contacted as soon as I hit Dxun more or less DS needs completing another planet before Onderon? Or at least when it`s triggered the line to go to Onderon if I sided with Vaklu?

OK..I side with Vaklu...talk to that guy in cantina who says vaklu soldiers will attack me to save appareances..kill the soldiers and turrets,go to Dxun... speak with Keldron and he says "If political ... I will contact you" I go to Ebon Hawk to see Bao-Dur and Mandalore debate...and nothing ??? LS I got to Ebon Hawk and Jedi contacted me..DS is different? Should trigger Keldron on Dxun OR after I finish another planet? (sadly I only have Korriban left) I`d hate to go on and to have it never triggered due to teh well known buggy game and to find out after many hours that actually I have to revert to a savegame hours behind...

It really is planet dependant..you can`t have the lightsaber until 2nd planet is complete or mostly done namely Telos-planet of choice - at end u should have lightsaber... And Battlewookie ... u can`t BUY essential parts of lightsaber...those u can buy are UPGRADES not parts to build it

Lvl 9 "yourname" Crystal OWNZ! ADD the crystal on Onderon in cantina from the woman who wants a visa (attack or damage(can`t remember well now) +5 restricted to DS) AND a decent 3rd crystal and some super-upgrades and u REALLY don`t need your original lightsaber I`m afraid BAo-Dur is right that THAT lightsaber doesn`t reflect you anymore

Normally I would agree BUT Exile uses the Force as Nihilus did since his affinity to the Force was lost at Malachor 5..this is a fact based on this he MUST feed on Force Sensitives in order to maintain his power and he will always have "the hunger" of Nihilus Revan was at a point Kreia`s student and HE was the one that started killing Jedis through various methods (HK-47 tells you) Kreia tells you that Revan was power,while about Exile she says staring at the death of the Force So he trains him to feed off the Force in an attempt to kill Revan and/or all other true Jedi(true Jedi = Jedi/Sith who use the Force naturally) Another possibilty is to train him to kill or fight Revan or hunt him or meet him Still possibility is that Exile is the weapon to drain both Jedis and Sith`s FORCE and ultimately become the second Nihilus only much more powerful and HAVE THE CHOICE of his actions and the KNOWLEDGE to make those choices since most of Kreia`s "way" is to teach you to make the "right" decisions and to rely ONLY on yourself

Nope. Kreia stays neutral no matter what. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes true...but I thought that is self-understood

He was already weak when you fought him due to teh masterful plot of Kreia(he spent quite a HUGE amount of energy to find not a single Force Sensitive) so we can safely assume he was almost dry IF he would`ve been at his full Force I`m sure u would`ve been stripped of whatever Force u may have had just like Traya did

ANY party member will change based on your allignment Example: U have LS mastery and enough influence with Handmaiden...she has LS mastery as well OR VERY close to it Now...if u have DS mastery she will be dark ... ______ Try something to check be out with your most influenced characters(should be Visas and Handmaiden) and cheat addlightside and adddarkside on main character..after each check their side The higher teh influence the better one character will reflect your stance(allignment)

I`ll make sure to kill all Jedis and will tell what happens I have some issues to attend to so my playing will be hindered for a while...

Visas loves you from start..that`s why she leaves her Master...u`ll get it when u`ll be close to fight Nihilus..she`ll come to you and...u`ll see Handmaiden since Echani dueling it`s a bit more..personal than in other cultures Kreia is a biatch but u know that Mira...instead of conversation options..still she says something about "sharing bunk" so we can assume she loves you too but she is intimidated(??) by Handmaiden or Visas?? ...more like IDEAs of romance PHILOSOPHICALLY thinking..u won`t kiss anyone if that is what u were asking... I NEVER play female characters so won`t be able to comment on Atton and Disciple thingies which I read in Forums

OK ASSUMING I kill all Jedis...who will be in Dantooine Council to judge me? So far as DS-er I killed teh NAr-Shadaa master and will kill the rest So...who will judge me on Dantooine? The Statue?

And to answer strictly to the question: 1.All Force Sensitives follow Force`s path for them - leading to events that THE FORCE had for them(given many hints from Kreia as "We are here because the Force brought us here for a purpose") 2.A Force Sensitive keeps in touch with all it`s alive especially theirs close to him/her 3.Given a very traumatic event one can cut from the Force or lose it as a result: 4.Exile cut himself from the Force 5.Kreia teaches him to feel the Force "the Nihilus way" - by feeding off it naturally 6.Exile CAN BEND THE FORCE or use it to his OWN purposes 7.add that he is a Leader as Revan was 8.add that all Jedis are dead That makes him and Kreia ONLY "wounds" in the force(since BOTH were Exiled and stripped of their Force Bond - connection to Force not THEIR bond which was a bond INDUCED by Kreia...their bond was nothing more than Master -apprentice one) 9.Kreia dies...thus Exile is the ONLY wound left in the currect Galaxy(except Revan who was gone to the Outer Rim - possibly the LAST of the REAL Jedis in terms of the Force) 10.Personal belief: I believe that all the ones that are in your party and are turned to Jedi(Bao-Dur,Atton,Handmaiden) are tought by teh Exile how to feed off teh Force not allowed to see THE FORCE..Visas was the only left alive on Katarr(I believe she was stripped of the Force as well as Nihilus stripped Kreia) and possibly made as NIhilus was - feed off the Force 11.In the end we have ONLY wounds in the Force or Jedis who are replicas of Nihilus including the Exile ________ Reason: Kreia wanted all Jedis dead...she succeded...Exile is trained to replace her. Why? Because he FEEDS on the FORCE thus he MUST find Jedis to SURVIVE ... the next perfect Jedi assasin if you like When last of the NATURAL Force sensitives is dead he will lose all his powers as well OR he will feed "The Nihilus way" on entire planets stripping of life whole systems Also party members who once were Force Sensitives or still are and taught the same Nihilus way are bound to turn on each other in an attempt to gain more "wounded" Force since we can`t call it FORCE anymore..in the end Exile kills all that will remain from them anyway since he`s the strongest At least that is a logic way to think for Kreia Also I have proof that this was Revan`s plan as well and will reveal them if asked. Kreia was NEVER other than the Sith Lord..even when she was stripped off her Power

Last fight is the last test to acheive Mastery yourself...that bond was induced and never existed(MAY have existed) but he doesn`t die when she dies ALL her teachings were to make him what SHE was and teaches him about how to FEED from the Force NOT to establish his Force bond since THAT bond which he had as General at MAlachor V is dead...she teaches him the way to become DArth Nihilus or at least to use the Force as he does Also she makes him to kill the ones that "Made her suffer indignities"- Nihilus for stripping her power and Sion for betraying her(he was her`s apprentice and will be again toward the end). I also believe the first fight on Harbinger was real and he wasn`t her apprentice then So u are a tool in Kreia`s hand for revenge and to become the greatest Jedi/Sith ever. Since Kreia`s past is with the Sith I bet she wanted to make you stronger than she was so in the end to pass the title of Sith Lord to you(Nihilus dead Traya becomes Sith Lord and Sion - apprentice since he can`t challenge her)

IMHO She wanted to make the Exile more powerful than she is and make him REALIZE what had he become(I tend to believe that he uses the Force as Nihilus did) in a sense that he is no longer in touch with the Force but instead feeds on Force Sensitives and/or through battle Given the endings his purpose for which Kreia sought him was to kill Sion and Nihilus and be the strongest Jedi remaining(through him she will also kill all other Jedis we know about except one if u are LS which will fall to DS anyway) and to go to the Sith or after The True Sith

U have to be lightside and have it with you ..ONLY him on Nar Shadaa on the Exchange guys who want to collect the money from the poor commoner... you get the right dialogue and BAo-Dur becomes Jedi. NOT Atton or Kreia in party alongside him because: 1.Atton - triggers his "Jedi code still exists" and u get influence on him only 2.Kreia - her famous "And what do you think you have acheived" line and u get no BAo line For some reason when an event potentially would get influence on TWO characters ONLY one is triggered...

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He can be trained first actually with Atton close 2nd on NAr-Shadaa as first planet after Telos Then MIra,then Handmaiden I wrote this somewhere in the pwIk Guide as quick LS Jedi conversion..major spoiler tho`

Now now...no need for flaming the guy I`m 26 and have ocassional frame drop on Dantooine as well with 1Gig KIngston RAM and FX 5900XT Nvidia card with 71.22 drivers. That lag happens ONLY on Dantooine which happens a bit of 2 instances 1.When framerates drop to like 5 for a bit of time 2.sometimes when I walk it freezes at 1 FPS and then I find my guy at super-speed somewhere on the map By 1st of march I`ll have a Ultra 6800 and will see if that is game related or they added some hard 32bit textures/graphics on Dantooine given the fact that Nvidia 5xxx series doesn`t handle very well 32 bit textures...but the RAM should counter tho`

Memorable moment..hmm...when I learned that there ISN`T a HK factory and the sonic emitter does nothing as well as the HK-47 droid except for some lines which will always remain just lines I felt... VIOLATED!

One other question and sorry for changing the topic HK-47 says that he can unlock the voice controlled security console on the Ebon Hawk...I get influence,talk to him,find out all there is to find(on and off influence checks) until I can`t learn nothing more from him...here comes the bad part..although he stated who was his previous master(muahaha..just guess!!) he suddenly won`t remember when I ask him to simulate his voice to actually open it So far HK suffers 2 losses(rushed game,heh) 1.Sonic emitter never will be activated since the HK factory isn`t on PC 2.Strange loop somewhere in the middle of his conversation AND the sudden amnesiac HK when it comes to unlock that thing(he CAN simulate voices by his free well NOT pre-recorded hihi) Bad bad LA...BAD!!!! Best character in game RUINED!!

Which concludes that Revan was a frog Revan was nice to play and all but first of all they cannot be compared since the gap is SOO huge Although it seems kotor 2 may give an answer to Revan`s fate/ideas/plan/departure IF u get enough influence with HK-47 to actually make him talk

OMG!!! You are right!!! I totally forgot!!! 2AM and 24 hours of no sleep...I wonder what else I may ask... By any chance anyone knows if the EARTH is flat or round? Thanks a million man

Nah..Revan hasn`t died... At least Malak who was his apprentice KNEW when to strike(Jedi party boarded Revan`s ship) ..and what did Revan do? He was SO blind that he NEVER foresaw the rocket/rockets/lasers/whatever were flying to his ship ..also from a nuclear warhead or some plasma thingie I seriously doubt one that stood 5 meters away from revan could`ve made it alive not counting SHE was counscoius(??) to have him alive and carry him out We talk also about cabin depresurization which sucks you into space... But I`m sure a memory wiped Jedi could fight a BORN Jedi anyway *insert irony* Also an interesting thing: It`s mentioned somewhere in kotor 1 that "Force can do terrible things to the mind" ... it looks awfully close to severing one`s connection to the Force since it can`t just vanish and u wake up in the morning feeling the whole Universe and in teh evening u`re a dumb soldier who knows nothing but foreign languages and have dreams that he/she doesn`t know what they are...THUS Revan suffers from the same ABOMINATION that struck the Exile At his known peak of power(when he departed to the Outer Rim) he was nothing more than a more powerful Jedi/Sith/neither of them-I can explain why but I wrote enough