Gromnir

is another thread we didnt read, so am apologizing in advance, but it boggles the mind when we see folks advocating any system other than xp rewards for completion o' quests. is simple and elegant. potential for exploitation? sure, but it is EASY and intuitive. rather than coming up with a complex calculus to be allowing all characters to get equivalent xp for completing quests regardless o' their use o' combat or sneaky or diplomacy or whatever, the developers avoids the problem completely. doesnt matter How the player completes objectives 'cause the award is simply for completion. is absolute egalitarian and is brainless simple to implement. is it possible to come up with a system that is more fair or more... kewl? sure, but why bother. simple xp rewards means developers can devote time to actual freaking gameplay rather than minutiae that will inevitably be more susceptible to exploitation. is axiomatic that the more complex the system, the more ways it can be broken. HA! Good Fun!

have not read any of this thread, so am hopeful we ain't the only person to observe that this is The Worst Poll... Evar. serious. not joking. writers should do their bestest to makes compelling characters. let audience pigeonhole as archetypes, but am thinking it is pure jackassery to, for even a nanosecond, consider whether a given character fulfills some audience approved list o' archetypes. follows is what maybe should be prime corollary for any writing endeavor meant for popular consumption: never give people what they ask for. is no joke. you give people what they ask for and they will hate you. cliché. trite. hackneyed. derivative. DULL. what we as a group ask for is stupid and too terrible to endure. sure, meeting extreme general expectations is a safe bet for developers, but ultimately, to be good, you needs to surprise audience. list of archetypes? *snort* HA! Good Fun!

Which makes Gromnir and Drowsy Emperor look just plain childish and bigoted now. Here is a more detailed analysis of the story: http://www.thestar.c...assador-s-death ? how does this make Gromnir seem bigoted? we never doubted that especially in libya there is a strong pro-USA element (try to explain that to junai and de) but that not change at all how differently the rest o' the world views freedom o' expression compared to the USA. junai and de is doing the big red herring nonsense, but it not change fact that freedom o' expression gets very different treatment outside the boarders o' these United States... which don't make the US superior to the rest o' the world... save for in matters o' freedom o' expression. boggles the mind that you folks in other places thinks it is a good thing for governments to curb potentially offensive speech. really. HA! Good Fun!

No, but it's what actually happens, and it's being exploited for all it's worth. Some yutz puts a vid on Youtube and upsets some muslims. A diplomat is killed. Suddenly the US of A feel justified in sending another fleet of drones to the respective area to hunt down the aggressors. How many times must this scenario be repeated before ppl start to see the picture? J. ... so, because the rest of the world is peopled by immature nincompoops, Americans should have their free speech rights abridged? you, and those like you, is the problem. is Not the US that needs to change in this situation. "How many times must this scenario be repeated before ppl start to see the picture?" indeed. how many times before you and the rest o' the world, "grow up." if we were talking race issues, would you give the same advice? "Yes, it is a shame that as a (add racial minority of your choice here) you should be insulted and attacked simply because you chose to peacefully protest against your inequality, but after the fourth or fifth time your presence causes an incident, should not the government learn? The government cannot stop all the bigots of the world, so the obvious solution to your dilemma is to segregate you away from the rest of the population." see, in AMERICA we understands that the solution to combating hateful or ignorant speech is through education and more speech, not enforced silence. so, how many times does this sorta nonsense need to happen before you "ppl start to see the picture?" muslim extremists can react like this a thousand more times and still the solution will be more speech and education as opposed to enforced silence. they can kill 1000 more ambassadors. they can attack 1000 embassies. they can burn, loot, pillage and maim 1000 times 1000000 more times, and we will become only more certain that True freedom of speech and expression requires government protection. as is becoming the norm, you and the rest of the world has learned the wrong lesson from these tragedies. you should be learning just how important it is to protect speech and speakers, but you ain't learning that. HA! Good Fun!

for further reading on another bit o' nonsense, we includes a linky... we actual is gonna recommend Not watching the embedded video. http://www.theecologist.org/blogs_and_comments/commentators/other_comments/834271/hundreds_of_whales_face_slaughter_as_norways_killing_season_resumes.html ... don't watch video. seriously.

We've been through this a lot, especially after the Danish Muhammed caricatures in 2006. The norwegian officer Lt Col. Siri Skare was killed in Afghanistan last year, after the American Rev. Terry Jones decided to burn the Quran. This year, some Coptic halfwit from CA decided to insult the muslims - again - and as a result a US ambassador was killed. Do I think the muslim attacks are "legit"? Not at all. Should Americans know better? Yes! You're free to go up to a guy at the local pub and call him an arse. Does that mean he won't punch you in the face? Talk about being befuddled. As for whaling, according to Wikipedia, the Makha tribe in Washington State reinstated whaling in 1999, despite protests from animal rights groups. In Norway, the catch is made solely from one sustainable whale population. J. 1)indian tribes is domestic-dependent nations. you got a problem with makha? take up with the makha. is no legal basis for the US to tell makha to stop as the makha whaling rights is granted via treaties. 2) as we were saying before, the rest o' the world is apparently a bunch o' 8-year old nitwits when it comes to speech. you honestly think it is ok to punch a guy in the face 'cause he called you an "arse"? to determine if an utterance rises to the level of "fighting words" (a category o' speech not protected by the constitution) we must ask if the speech is likely to, "reasonably incite the average person to retaliate." the retaliation needs be Immediate... no reflective anger. norway is a strange freaking land of seal clubbers and berserkers who respond with violence to any perceived slight? and even if that is what you honestly believe, is you really analogizing the vandalism and murderous activities currently taking place in the muslim world to your bar scenario? do Americans now realize just how childish and backwards the rest of the world is insofar as free speech is concerned? has recent events taught us a lesson? yes. Hell Yes! that were our point. you is all screwy and immature, and this is one aspect o' American Culture that we has no difficulty in declaring unquestionably Superior. message to the world: Grow Up. HA! Good Fun!

the previous 999 explanations was just as pathetic. go from posting standardized americanized english to your current affectation, AND add a non-sig catchphrase to close every post? okie dokie. am guessing we should be flattered, but lack o' imagination should never be encouraged. HA! Good Fun!

so, massive server merger is in progress? all east coast pve servers is now jedi covenant, yes? okie dokie HA! Good Fun!

I'm just going to let Sargy answer this one am recalling sargy Before he started with the bit o' too familiar affected speech posting. *shrug* have never been a fan o the suggestion that lots o' posts or posting for long time has some kinda special significance. 'leads to the kinda nonsense where some people gets labeled as "n00bs" and board regulars is thinking they got special status. hate that. HA! Good Fun!

Good thing you're willing to break your financial back to finance the US world-education & police- campaign then. $1.3B to get afghan girls back to school, and to get rid of the brave freedom fighters you trained and financed in the eighties. America is generous. Time to look in the mirror now, and moe the lawn in your own backyard. J. is sometimes difficult to tell if junai is being obtuse, or is genuine as befuddled as is seeming. you, as a citizen of a marginalized nation worthy only o' mention in the context of whale-killers and recreational seal clubbing, is no doubt a bit envious o' USA superpower status-- culturally emasculating or somesuch. we empathize with your impotent rage and jealousy... it is cute, but irrelevant. nevertheless, whether you thinks the frothing fanatics currently attacking embassies and random westerners in airports and hotels who might possibly be American is somehow legit, this current bit o' chaos sweeping across the isalmic world is, according to the rock hurlers and bug-eyed clerics who is quoted by various news sources, the result o' a 14-minute you-tube video. is that reality sinking in yet? a US airstrike goes bad and 8 civilians end up dead. would we be shocked by a resultant protest by the locals? nope. sadly, what we got is ignorant zealots enraged at the United States o' America 'cause o' the amateurish video production o' a guy living in california. almost as bad, but revealing equal ignorance, is the euro-pundits who is agreeing that the any and all anti-islamic cecil b. demille wannabes should be criminalized. *snort* is a joke. is a horribly unfunny joke that makes us weep and laugh at same time 'cause the concept o' freedom o' speech and freedom o' expression is seemingly universally lauded, but it actual exists nowhere save for the United States... and less here than it once did. clowns. HA! Good Fun! ps. to be fair, junai's nation is also relevant for a week or two every 4 years when the winter olympics is occurring... so, congrats on that.

is this where we is 'posed to boast/apologize 'bout how long we has been posting on interplay/bis/obsidian forums? *chuckle* well, whatever. HA! Good Fun!

That the west turns a blind eye to disrespect towards the book they swear to, "in God we trust" etc - is not a portrayal of how wonderfully tolerant it is. More like, apathetic and fragmented to the point that anyone can say and do just about anything without fear of sanction. While a reaction might happen in the states, europe is disgraceful in that regard. Well except if you dare question the prevalent multicultural dogma, then you're looking at a quick trip to personal and professional ruin. your ignorance is astounding. the notion that Americans is apathetic 'bout religion and culture is only possible if you has never picked up a newspaper or watched tv... much less lived in the States. because we has genuine freedom o' expression, we has been frequent exposed to artists and madmen who is trying to get a reaction from the American public. we, as a people, is not apathetic, but we is having far more familiarity in dealing with hurtful words and images. put bluntly, we is more grown up in dealing with disturbing word and images. you need your governments to act as a prophylactic to protect you from mean words? *chuckle* the difference is that the average American recognizes that offending words and images created by an individual is never a reasonable cause for violence, and rarely is a cause for concern. sure, we got the occasional nutter (or group o' nutters) that resort to violence 'cause images o' Christ or the flag is defamed, but our CULTURE is such that WE are willing to endure such images and words 'cause it is the only way to be protecting everybody's freedom o' expression."sticks and stones... "in this matter it is as if the rest o' the world is collectively stuck at 8 years of age. thank goodness we lives in the US. HA! Good Fun!

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/12/world/middleeast/anger-over-film-fuels-anti-american-attacks-in-libya-and-egypt.html?_r=1 am imagining what the reaction would be here in the States if some random yutz in cairo posted an animated film o' a pot smoking jesus christ having sex with mary magdalene and st. john. am suspecting the reaction would be... nothing. have mobs form and attack egyptian or libyan embassies and kill random folks in airports who looks like they might be from the middle-east? ... nuts.

http://www.cnn.com/2....html?hpt=hp_t1 sure, the linked article references egypt, but virtual all o' the rest o' the world distinguishes between freedom o' speech and freedom to offend. is nuts. HA! Good Fun!

... obsidian is still in the game development biz? am recalling that they made fo:nv, no? we were fortunate enough to avoid being an unwitting alpha protocol beta tester, and we had 0 interest in the most recent ds incarnation. south park? uh... no thanks. *shrug* am recalling those stoopid blank book spines at the old interplay site that were meant to create anticipation regarding forthcoming d&d games. such stuff leaves us a bit... flaccid. am not gonna guess, and we is actual a bit surprised that we cares so little 'bout the next obsidian offering. our level o' interest regarding the new obsidian title is probable = to our anticipation regarding the next justin bieber album. regardless o' the announcement, we is unlikely to follow the development o' the new project as obsidian is currently a bit irrelevant to us-- which is too bad. we genuine liked obsidian games. HA! Good Fun!

some guy mk meets via a mud is evidence o' american stoopidity? ... really? *snort* is all kinda best university lists. one such list we sees often is located at following link : http://www.arwu.org/ARWU2010.jsp the aforementioned list focuses much on research universities, so it is bound to baffle or irritate some folks. nevertheless, is at least a place to start when wondering 'bout the tech acumen o' nations. is many USA flags, no? 54 o' top 100 universities is in USA. now, am gonna admit that we is rather disappointed with public school education in the post nclb era-- well-intentioned legislation largely backfires. we got loads o' folks graduating from public schools that can't write an essay with any skill and thinks ohm's law is probable a tv drama from nbc. am bothered by the failures... but not too bothered. and as for the silly notion that science gets ignored in red states... HA! is amazing what folks outside the usa is willing/wanting to believe. yeah, there is plenty o' evils that exist in this nation (as somebody who grew up at pine ridge, we got first-hand experience o' too many American Tragedies,) but the wacky conclusions people arrive at via internet spawned snippets is baffling. good scientists would be requiring significant empirical evidence before arriving at such far-flung conclusions as the thread originator has, no? HA! Good Fun!

Find stuff around dromund kaas and nar shaddaa. Very boring quests with very crappy rewards, unless you want a crossbow shaped blaster/sniper rifle. am believing that the blasters is legacy items, meaning you can send between your characters. for folks that got multiple characters, this is a nifty bonus as there were no way for a player to send bound columi/rakata/war hero barrel mods between characters til now. is not meaningful for the non-hardcore player, but am gonna guess that the folks with multiple 50s is gonna take advantage o' using the legacy blasters as a mailbox. HA! Good Fun!

am not suggesting that it takes intelligence to be curious 'bout the numbers that is highly visible but not necessarily explained in the average crpg. what meager 'mount of intelligence does it require to be exhibiting the minimal 'mount o' curiosity to question game mechanics? somewhere between octopus (an admittedly very inquisitive invertebrate) and the average nfl defensive back? is Not a question o' intellect. that being said, the state o' mind required to be seeing game mechanics mentioned in virtual all skills and abilities offered in a crpg, but to have Zero curiosity 'bout the impact on your +20 hours o' gaming is requiring a state o' mind that we suspect is most easily attained via illicit drugs. as stated earlier, we understand that attempting to fully decode the frequently self-contradictory and pervasively non-intuitive game mechanics seen in crpgs is a pursuit only a few die-hard gamers would seek to embrace. that being said, am finding it passing odd that anybody would question the motivation o' those who would be wanting to actually know what some o' those +, -, and % that is showing up in game descriptors. HA! Good Fun!

people says the weirdest things. when you level in a crpg, it is traditional to, at some pre-determined point, gets new abilities. so, how does one choose abilities. am guessing one can take mkreku complete serious and just choose random or simple looks at title of ability and choose what sounds most kewl, but that is not gonna be satisfying for all but the folks who likes to game whilst fully baked. see, virtual all games has mechanics worked right into the descriptions o' the abilities. am seeing that the swtor thread is still active, so take that game as an example. we looks at abilities for troopers and and we sees such stuff as getting an improved 2% defense chance... or should we take the ability that improves our absorption rating... or perhaps shield? how 'bout a more extreme example?. am recalling when we first were leveling our sorcerer, and we helped out an assassin do a flashpoint. the guy was frustrated 'cause he were dying so much and 'cause he couldnt hit nothing neither, so we looked at his gear. poor guy had strength and cunning and aim mods and enhancements as much, if not more, than willpower and endurance. why? 'cause surely a melee character needs strength more than willpower, right? we spent a teeny bit o' time explaining basic mechanics of game and a considerable time helping him re-gear so he wouldnt be dying quite so much. fellow seemed much happier once he knew the mechanics. is somewhat ironic that the only way the mk route o' gameplay for non-baked players would be satisfying is if game were complete and perfect balanced... and we know how mk feels 'bout balance. if any and all abilities were providing exactly same value to any and all character builds, then it wouldnt matter what ability were chosen, right? hey, Gromnir would be ecstatic to be playing such a game. would probable first need drop notion o' classes with prime attributes n' such, but that is another thread topic, eh? complex mechanics can indeed be frustrating, so we can appreciate the folks who wanna takes a bite o' the mk brownie and just play... dude. but am also recognizing that such a limited pov would make all but the most simplistic crpg all but unplayable. HA! Good Fun!

2 points 1) posting off-topic has always been the most common source of mod censure perhaps hurl has been too self-absorbed to notice, but mods likes to choose a neutral reason for killing threads and posts-- is not that hurl were being a dink or ignoramus, but simply that he was off-topic. is so much less adversarial to kill a thread or post 'cause of off-topic. really, pay attention and you will notice. 2) Gromnir's post were on-topic did we hurt hurl's feelings with the suggestion that you gots questionable taste? who cares? it were hardly a viscous insult we level'd at you, and it clearly failed to go beyond board guidelines. did we somehow crush your will so that you were incapable o' responding w/o staying on topic? your protracted whine could not have included material that kept it on-topic as well? 'course this line o' nonsense is, again, fully off-topic and likely to result in censure even if we include relevant material. ... if we has a hypothetical thread on this board that includes a review from X that slams the new south park game, and hurl questions the reviewer 'cause the reviewer also slammed fo:nv, and bg2, would anybody be shocked? "clearly the reviewer's taste in games is suspect." would such a rude observation o' the reviewer elicit a moment's notice from even the most sensitive proponents o' miss manner's school o' board etiquette? doubtful. nevertheless, Gromnir's post were like the music o' the pied piper o' hamelin overcoming the willpower o' garden variety... vermin? puhlease. nobody pulled you off-topic-- you ran. as for the dailies... server merger ("transfer"? HA!) has made doing dailies a real pain in the tukus. 58 people in the black hole? hopefully bio makes new instances open a bit sooner as the mega-servers is a bit crowded. HA! Good Fun!

no doubt you is making a point. is this your attempt to show false dilemma fallacy? ... is not a great example o' false dichotomy/dilemma, but is close enough, we s'pose. nevertheless, is always easy to picks out the folks who feels as if we has taken 'pon them a "smoldering dump." *shrug* side-note: am not sure why monkeys and the emotionally damaged is so fixated with scat. we worked at a correctional facility for a while, and residents would frequently be withdrawing from various behavior modifying drugs. too frequent these poor souls would use their "smoldering dump" as a means o' expression. ink for their tortured pen as it were. curious. HA! Good Fun! ps you forgot to say anything relevant 'bout the topic. how... rude. did you like swtor writing as much as hurl? or perhaps you would prefer to play with your smoldering...

haven't we done this before? we got our dream car: 1987 buick grand national. if darth vader owned a car, it would be a buick grand national. heck, if vader Were a car, it would be the 1987 buick grand national gnx. HA! Good Fun!

with that insightful and original post, hurl has made us rethink our posting style and our recent life choices. ... you got any idea how many times we has seen almost the exact same post from a cognitively challenged poster at codex... or in this place? but hey, your stab at it were so much more witty. really. *snort* regardless, is helpful when you post that you likes kutcher films and thinks inquisitor is superior to kotor 1 and 2. tastes is a personal thing. apparently, so is lack of taste. but don't feel bad, there is plenty o' folks who genuinely liked epic bad films such as battlefield earth and gigli, so you is hardly alone in having odd preferences in entertainment. HA! Good Fun! Being rude on the internet isn't really insightful or original either. It is sad that you won't change. I'm not refering to your posting style, that is simply eccentric, but the attitude behind it does not portray a pleasant person. and yet, your attempted criticism in your previous post were indeed directed at our posting style, no? thus your faux stab at maturity is a bit suspect... as is your taste. regardless, we will concede that we makes little attempt to be polite. am particularly blunt with folks who is similarly rude and/or with candy-arsed milksops who would likes to discuss internet etiquette rather than thread topics. so, in the future could you endeavour to at least throw in some thread-centric content into your mewling lest we sees moderator censorship. is quite rude to be so thoughtless. our first toon (mmo nomenclature is so odd) were an inquisitor. we were mildly entertained, but the shortfalls in character development were increasingly difficult to ignore. 1st half o' story forces us to be errand boy for somebody who is obviously out to do us ill... second half is difficult to remember as we were chasing an adversary who were equally forgettable. the companion stories hurl imagined were post-50 fare, were similarly uninspired... although we will concede that we never finished the final companion story as we were not enough of a glutton for punishment to endure running dailies or flashpoints to be getting his affection high enough. we played ls, so perhaps our experience were different than hurls. regardless, we find it difficult to favorably compare swtor inquisitor to a majority o' the material in kotor or kotor 2... with the notable exceptions of juhanni and visas mar. HA! Good Fun!

with that insightful and original post, hurl has made us rethink our posting style and our recent life choices. ... you got any idea how many times we has seen almost the exact same post from a cognitively challenged poster at codex... or in this place? but hey, your stab at it were so much more witty. really. *snort* regardless, is helpful when you post that you likes kutcher films and thinks inquisitor is superior to kotor 1 and 2. tastes is a personal thing. apparently, so is lack of taste. but don't feel bad, there is plenty o' folks who genuinely liked epic bad films such as battlefield earth and gigli, so you is hardly alone in having odd preferences in entertainment. HA! Good Fun!

... well, considering you thought the inquisitor story were better than kotor 1 or 2 material, we is not surprised you is "entertained." similarly, if you told us that you is entertained while watching ashton kutcher (sp?) movies, we would not be shocked. HA! Good Fun! ps a friend of ours asked us to help her level a character a bit, so we has been playing again. the game has not gotten significantly better with the additions of 1.2 and 1.3.