Fionavar

Well let's compromise - I'll close this down and you send me and Phosphor your petition

I am getting the impression this thread may have finally come to a constructive end ... is this the case?

Well the question has been answered and the SPAM has begun ... so ... it's "closing time" ... FLoSD.OBE

Actually both Fallout and Fallout II remain available within the retail chain (i.e. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detai...games&n=507846). Though I am unsure as to whom the proceeds go (perhaps Vivendi?), it remains available and thus a product that must be purchased, in order to be legally acquired.

Wise words FLoSD.ObE

thank you for taking the time to share you frustration. The p[atch is currently being worked on and hopefully it will resolve some of the issues that you are currently experiencing. Respectfully, Fionavar

Are you sure? I just tried a test post and it seems fine to me. I will try the thread you are speaking about in particular. Update: I have now tried it on two redirects and the thread is promoted. Could you try a test post of your own and confirm you can replicate the problem?

Though I can appreciate that you might find it difficult to find a hard copy of a game, Obsidian does not in ANY WAY condone piracy. I truly hope that you can find a legitimate copy of this title, but know that what you are doing is not only illegal, in the end it hurts every player here. By choosing not to find a legitimate manner in which to acquire a title, distribution chains remain not only non-existent, the rationale to grab another title quickly goes from rationalisation to intentional theft. Finally, the cost is eventually incurred by players and companies alike. I apologise if this is coming across as judgemental and/or preachy, but the simple matter is that none of us would have the privelege or luxury to game if we simply found a download site to acquire that hard to get title. /Rant Respectfully, Fionavar Note: I was intending to close this thread, but it occured to me that there might in fact be a manner in which FoD might acquire a legal means of d/ling the title in question. Though GameSpy D2U does not have it available - I checked - perhaps some of the members here might actually be able to assist. My rant stands, but perhaps it should be in general, as reading FoD's original post, it is not certain that you meant to illicit assistance in illegally obtaining Fallout. My apologies for my 'assumption' ... Fionavar

Um ... could we try to stay somewhat on topic in regard to the thread. We would not want to think SPAM was occuring after all FLoSD.ObE

In general this thread has maintained a decorum of respect that has led to an enjoyable discussion. I have pruned two questionable posts and I will remind anyone who posts after this, that if they cannot refrain from responding in the negative through flaming/baiting I will issue an Official Warning and place that member into moderated posting status for a week. Respectfully, Fionavar

You know I do not know whether to be afraid or slightly enamoured by the oddness of WoT ... to balance Phosphor, I'll throw in with kumquat ... I mean it's a no brainer at this point ... FLoSD.ObE

Ok all, let's try to play nice and not avoid the Forum Guidelines by insulting one another. We definitely would not want such a deep and challenging discussion to be locked because of disparaging personal slights. FLoSD.ObE

WOW! I'm not sure if derailed or alternate reality has occurred in this thread, but I think it is fair to say we have moved on! Rather than have the current discussion degenerate, I think I would request that questions of board moderation/style be taken to PM as per the guidelines. It is evident that everyone cares about the community here at Obsidian and I would not want anyone to take that concern and move beyond civility. Regardless of interpretation, the board is still here and I hope that ALL will take this as an opportunity with which to move forward and post in a respectful and constructive manner. Respectfully, Fionavar

http://forums.obsidianent.com/index.php?showtopic=31533 Well I hope I can keep some perspective in regard to my role here vis-a-vis a comparison of other fora. Nonetheless, rather than have several threads throughout the board sharing thanks and feedback, I think it would be more productive to share it/them in one place. On a personal note, I too am most grateful that this vibrant community has been allowed to continue to evolve. Respectfully, Fionavar

I believe that Phosphor has addressed this and I will try one last time to state admin's opinion. Please feel free to discuss politics in a matter that is respectful and constructive. Baiting, flaming and/or general misuse of the privelege to discuss such matters can be quickly revoked if not approached in the manner outlined above. No one other than a member is responsible for his/her manner of posting. The guidelines for these fora are clear. With that said, please feel free to continue this discussion in light of the input provided by Phosphor and myself. Respectfully, Fionavar

I have pruned this thread of some of the negativity that has arisen. I would ask that if people have an opinion, they choose to post in a matter that is constructive and not hurtful. Post with respect and not antagonism. I am appreciative of all members and their interest in this franchise and as such I would hope we would post from the perspective that we are ALL hopeful of learning and sharing one another. Respectfully, Fionavar

Well thanks ShadowPaladin and hopefully Darque is fully appreciative of your sharing, but I think closing this one down before the real productive intent behind this thread is lost in a sea of SPAM would be the prudent thing to do FLoSD.ObE

At the moment I am very appreciative of the general tone of this thread. I would encourage everyone to remain posting in the articulate and respectful manner that you have thus far. I hope not to have to take any action other than this, so on with observations and impressions

I would like to thank everyone for their input. At the moment there is a patch en route, so hopefully that will assist those who are experiencing trouble to play the game more thoroughly. Rather than see this deteriorate, I will close this thread and hope - as we all do - that the patch will be forthcoming shortly.

Thanks you for taking the time to share your opinion. Rather than have this detiorate any further, I think we'll just close this one down.

For the sake of not seeming repetitive ... see: http://forums.obsidianent.com/index.php?ac...ndpost&p=293365 FLoSD.ObE

At the moment, owing to the fact that admin has removed the Closure Announcement, I think it is hopefully indicative that we have enjoyed a reprieve. Thanks for the energy that I hope has translated into the community's survival. Respectfully, Fionavar

At the moment, since admin has removed the Forum Closure Announcement, I think it is fair to say that we have enjoyed a reprieve :D Thanks for the interest and sentiment indicated by this thread, I hope it is a part of why we all still get to banter :D Respectfully, Fionavar

I would like to thank everyone for their enthusiasm with exploring this topic so thoroughly. I think that at this time the topic has likely reached a point where it is teetering toward the DS, so rather than waste what good has been done, we'll immortalise it with a 'thanks'. Respectfully, Fionavar

I would say we got a wee bit derailed here folks ... so we'll just close it down, lest the Big Green feels the need to police ... FLoSD.ObE