ShadowPaladin V1.0

Id like them to re examine the rules and either rework them for higher levels or drop the levels to a more reasonable range. It's quite likely to be an Xbox II flagship title Bill will pay big to shift the things and get a jump on Sony and Nintendo.

It wont matter that only dictates what lightsaber you see in your meeting with someone in a scripted event. When you make yours it will probably be purple but you can change it any time you come across a new crystal. If you really badly want a silver one then you would have to do Onderon PTII there is one that always seems to appear in the armoury.

Bah they copied me

Beware the wrath of Lucas Arts...

In solo combat that is balanced out by Attons stealth and insane sneak attack damage. I dare say from stealth he could kill my Weapon Master or hurt him enough to put him totally on the defensive. Atton isnt dumb after all like he said he knows how to kill Jedi , going head to head in that respect seems totally out of character for him. Spot on with the rules observation. But KOTOR wasnt hard either I'd really like to see rewritten rules for number 3 myself.

Umm if thats not an exageration you might want some other hobbies.. From the characters perspective there is no sense of disbelief. Except perhaps when you leave the academy and in theory Mira should be there but isnt. Bioware handled the ending to HotU rather well. And it's similiar in some ways. The end boss would try to manipulate your companions into doubting themselves and thus fight against you. You could pursuade them he was talking crap in which case they would fight on your side. Except for Deekin of course. Deekin would always tell the boss to get stuffed That would have made a perfect ending and one that wasnt forced (forgive the pun)

Then the question then becomes could YOU beat Sion. Because unless you gimp Atton your not that much tougher than him with the same gear.

Yes I'm also fully aware that the rules dont reflect the realities of actual combat and all that stuff. The reality in KOTOR is reflected by the SW rules that is the only reality that matters. Thing is we are not talking about possibilities. Possibilities are why you have rules in games. Do I hit ? Do I miss it's a possibility of either outcome. What we are talking about the writer ignoring the rules completely just to tell the story they want to tell and that I wont accept any more than I would accept a PnP DM saying although your character has 140 hp's I want it dead for story purposed so your dead next round no matter what you do. Umm since you already know what the end is its not like you need it added to the game anyway. It dosnt have any direct gameplay implications it's just forced storytelling that ignores everything you have done with those characters to that point in time. Obsidian should focus on NwNII and whatever else they are working on learn from whatever caused the problem be it lack of time or an ending that horrified LA. KOTOR II is a more than worthy game shaky ending or not.

You see his face but when he's decapitated its just a helmet. If you had actually wanted to chop off Mark Hamils head (not for real of course) in full view then the rating would have shot up. 15 is movie reference dont worry about it. didnt see any blood, must be a blanket catagory.

Only one compartment. Your already aware of the first one so it's empty (thus they dont need to include it).

Your not forced to kill her, you choose to kill her. Presumably she fights back with all the equipment she has and the stats she has to that point in the game. I wouldnt know first hand I've never felt overly compeled to replay the game. But lets assume she does. That is Juhani as she is reflected by the rules and thus the reality. It's not Juhani just dying because the story teller thinks its a good idea. IF Sion can beat Atton on the same playing field fine. But we all know that any decent Atton will kick Sions arse into the middle of next week.So a forced loss or Atton not making full use of his abilities is unrealistic and cheesey.

No I'm saying the rules are different for showing a helmet roll around on the floor rather than a head. Again you dont see a head you see a helmet. It's symbolic. Lopping off someones head is an automatic 15 rating. No there has never been anything that deliberate or that graphic. Ouside of Manhunt anyway.

Thats just a case of VERY poor design and thought. I mean it took me what 2 seconds to come up with an alternative for the "forced" Atton sequence. If your not going to take into account what goes on in the game. Then give up and write books. IF Bastila can beat him sure. Remember Chrono Trigger? Diregarding the fact that Sentinel cant be paralysed just so Malak can escape is oh so cheap and I'm suprised that more people dont see that. Oh thats something I got from the NwN boards just to prove the game was in good hands over there <_< It in no way reflects my personal opinions. TSL would suck royaly with that ending. They may as well have sent it out as book rather than a game. I'd have probably returned it. You may love the idea that what you have accomplised in the last 30 hours is utterly pointless. I DONT.

Once Vader has served his purpose of bringing balance to the force he's pretty much done with his destiny. I dont think Qui Gon quite realised how it was going to work when he found him. Or perhaps he did which was why he didnt go all glowy ghost when he died.

I nearly spat my drink out when I read that line. It just comes out of nowhere.

Umm well thats because the game story and the game are closely tied together. Why not ? Atton was trained Atton killed Jedi before. The storyline is reflected through the game rules. If Atton is level 25 and has enough firepower to level a small city well that IS Atton as he exists in that world. You cant simply disregard that to tell the story just because you think its a good idea. Your talking about a film , a film is not a game a film is like a book it tells a specific story with no variation. Thats done for dramitic purposes it's not a reflection of anything other than the will of the writer. If that sequence was played out with SW rules then it wouldnt always end the same way. Thats the challenge of writing a game rather than writing a book. Atton isnt a nobody. By that stage he's one of the 10 toughest beings in that part of the Galaxy. Even if he's not a Jedi he's still more than capable of putting all sorts of hurt on them. I took him Mandalore and T3 to Nadds tomb and they swept the "jedi" before them like storm. (precise shot helps imensely as does droid plasma). Let me put it another way. What if your PC just died at the end battle. No fight , just Kreia calling you a failure and crushing the life out of you. Would you have been happy with that as the end of the story? Everything you did to that point was irrelevent to the outcome.

As soon as you get a lens. The only two I know of for sure are the Jedi sublevels (you have to buy it off a scavenger or kill them) Or Nah Shada the treasure vault or the husband.

Yes but if I were writing a GAME I couldnt do that because unless +50 bunnies exist in the game so it becomes non sensical. Just as non sensical as Sion beating Atton without a fight then you coming along 5 minutes later and kicking the crap out of him. Only if you wanted him to thats the thing about story writting. However game writting is different. The story must reflect the reality of the rules of the game or its nonsense. Why can Malak suddenly stun a sentinel ? Because Bioware couldnt see another way of doing the scene. It's cheap nonsense. Sion can only kill Atton in a game if the game mechanics reflect it and they dont. There is nothing special about your character that allows then to succeed just because of who they are. And in my game for Atton to lose to Sion would have been absolute nonsense. And on the same sort of cheese level as an invulnerable Malak if not worse.

No you see his helmet come off and roll around on the floor. You know his head must be in there but you dont see his head come rolling out of his helmet just to prove the point.

Makes no difference does it. If I wrote the story Atton could pull out a +50 bunny rabbit and it could eat Sion (w00t) This is a game and the game has rules. Disregarding rules just to make the story work is cheesy. I was incensed when I played KOTOR and you get that Malak sequence where you can kill him easily but he runs off with Bastila anyway. SENTINELS CANT BE STUNNED YOU CHEATING LITTLE

Actually GOTO does the bounty. Your one of the pieces he needs for a stable galaxy. A restored Telos A productive Dantooine A peaceful Onderon (regardless of ruler) And the last piece a Sith or Jedi order. But not both. GOTO wanted a "Jedi" to help him save the Republic.

Atton is the same sort of level as you Atton has a tricked out lightsaber and Mandalorian battle armour and AC in the 50's. Sion will drop in two rounds. Even if Atton has to fight him for an hour and he keeps getting up. So whats so different about your character then ? If you suck Sion will kill you. If you dont you will kill him. If you are fully tricked out with master speed and flurry you will kill him in the time it takes to blink.

After talking to Kreia on the ship I though Mr Avellone had re written PST. When I saw Nihilus it's like oh look here comes the other part of myself thats causing the wound in the force <yawn> There is still enough there to suppose that the Exile was actually on M5 with Sion,Kreia and Nihilus. Kreai wants to know why he alone could turn away from the power. Presumably the same power that corrupted the other three. Also if your a female Sion says that he loved you. Which is rather odd unless he fell in love while kicking your butt at Koriban or something.

You dont need to it automatically adds her part to your inventory. If you talk to Bao Dur he will tell you what your missing. You may even have everything you need without realising.

If he took a personal interest it might explain a few things. Just think he could be lurking on the boards right now...