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That hurt me in my soul. I'm glad you played the way you wanted and still got to enjoy things but oh god....that's like when my friend used to skip every Morrowind dialogue when I was watching him play. He missed so much context. That's how my family is whenever I get them to play a game. I feel your pain.
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NWN has a dedicated modding and module building community that many other games lack, so it comes with a built-in audience and was almost guaranteed to sell at least decently well.This is the big thing. I owned NWN1 for years before I bothered to finish the OC, and I never really did multiplayer. What I did do was sink a hell of a lot of time into user-created modules. I think the visual differences and, much more importantly, the setting's differences and the factors revolving around it, are huge.The Medieval Era was hugely stagnant culturally and technologically and the content we usually get from that giant period of time has boiled down into very generic fantasy It really wasn't, and the misconception that it was is mainly a consequence of Victorian-era historical revisionism, reinforced by political theorists (on both the left and the right, incidentally) with axes to grind and by "medieval" fantasy written by people who don't actually know anything about the medieval period. It is difficult if not impossible to make broad generalizations about hundreds of years of European history - European, not just English and French, but Prussian and Baltic and Finnish and Andalusian and Catalonian and Neapolitan and Venetian and Byzantine and Russian - but it is a modern myth that the period prior to the Renaissance was one of general stagnation or decline.Oh! My bad. I'm interested in history but I'm not an expert (obviously). I should clarify that I knew it wasn't stagnant across the world. I thought it was just true of England, France, and maybe other parts of Europe. Is the stagnation /decline a myth in regards to that too? Why would Victorian historians have an axe to grind about that time period? My understanding is that it was certainly a regression with the end of the western roman empire. I think the characterization that historians tend to try to correct for is one where the fall of the western roman empire presaged 1000 years of dirt-farming and illiteracy until the renaissance happened, which paints a convenient picture of triumphalism and progress for the countries that just so happen to be framed advantageously as hotbeds for the renaissance/enlightenment/industrialization, when in reality a lot of things were still happening in europe (cultural, societal, and whatnot) and even with the decline of the western roman empire, the eastern roman empire (e.g. byzantine) was still basically a superpower for a millennia. Oh ok! That makes a lot of sense. Thank you for elaborating!
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I think writing off how they became gods kind of oversimplifies the topic (though the game does give that perspective as an option). Yes, they're *virtually * like gods, but the more you see and know, the more the cracks in that myth shows. They're not truly omnipotent or omniscient and they're very flawed (both as gods and individuals), and the *way * they actually represent (or don't represent) their ideals is extremely telling of both the kind of people that created them and their own biases and self interest. Skaen is probably the best example of that. The fact that they get the same treatment as if they were true to expectations or legitimate deities is pretty messed up, and the fact that they have unchecked power on beings that they had no part in creating and whom did not agree to this contract is much worse. It's just the Engwithins forcibly imposing themselves on the rest of the world. Again. I think there were other things too, right? That the world has no meaning or sense of order without them or something like that? It's been forever since I've played that part of the game.
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NWN has a dedicated modding and module building community that many other games lack, so it comes with a built-in audience and was almost guaranteed to sell at least decently well.This is the big thing. I owned NWN1 for years before I bothered to finish the OC, and I never really did multiplayer. What I did do was sink a hell of a lot of time into user-created modules. I think the visual differences and, much more importantly, the setting's differences and the factors revolving around it, are huge.The Medieval Era was hugely stagnant culturally and technologically and the content we usually get from that giant period of time has boiled down into very generic fantasy It really wasn't, and the misconception that it was is mainly a consequence of Victorian-era historical revisionism, reinforced by political theorists (on both the left and the right, incidentally) with axes to grind and by "medieval" fantasy written by people who don't actually know anything about the medieval period. It is difficult if not impossible to make broad generalizations about hundreds of years of European history - European, not just English and French, but Prussian and Baltic and Finnish and Andalusian and Catalonian and Neapolitan and Venetian and Byzantine and Russian - but it is a modern myth that the period prior to the Renaissance was one of general stagnation or decline.Oh! My bad. I'm interested in history but I'm not an expert (obviously). I should clarify that I knew it wasn't stagnant across the world. I thought it was just true of England, France, and maybe other parts of Europe. Is the stagnation /decline a myth in regards to that too? Why would Victorian historians have an axe to grind about that time period?
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I'm guessing it was part of the same process that tried to make resting feel less like a leash. I think wizards would probably be kind of ridiculous if you had as many charges as last game *and * could rest whenever you wanted without managing the campfire resource. Overall I liked the feel better, though it does feel a bit warlock-y once in a while.
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Quests from the Gullet
Tick replied to Tick's topic in Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire Stories (Spoiler Warning!)
I don't know. :/ Those are the main things I would think of. I don't remember what my rep was, since I didn't go out of my way to Max it. -
I actually loved the sound of Tyranny's premise and got really excited when I heard Obsidian was the developer, but I heard about it at least a *year * after it came out. I was really surprised that I was so out of the loop. Maybe part of the problem was a lot of people just didn't know about it? Thank you for the more grounded perspectives on this. I know a lot of these topics go crazy with speculation or hyperbole or whatnot, but it sometimes gets to me anyways.
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I think the visual differences and, much more importantly, the setting's differences and the factors revolving around it, are huge. The Medieval Era was hugely stagnant culturally and technologically and the content we usually get from that giant period of time has boiled down into very generic fantasy. Pillars does something very cool by bringing it into a Renaissance inspired era. The aesthetics, the politics, the technological/exploratory/metaphysical discoveries and the anxieties and changes those discoveries bring to people and society are all really interesting and wouldn't fit in classic fantasy. Pillars also really shifts from the typical fantasy attitude, which is generally unchallenging, comfortable, and looking backwards or retrospectively. It actually reminds me a lot of the Sci fi genre in the sense that it asks some interesting and unnerving what-ifs, and twists and questions assumptions and expectations.
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Aha, so that's how you use the spoiler tag! So: So if you, at Maje took the Huana of her back and then when you reached Tikawara, also helped the spy, what will happen? Because I thought I was doing to right thing by helping Maia.Oh man, I'm sorry. Game got both of us on this one. Though I only helped with one,then just didn't do the quest. This is an ending slide spoiler, so only look if you don't mind :
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Quests from the Gullet
Tick replied to Tick's topic in Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire Stories (Spoiler Warning!)
same here, anyone know how to reach +5 the Gullet reputation or i missed something? +3 is max i can achieved. Did you help the Dawnstar woman heal those sick people? Like what have you done already? -
Xoti's old voice/callouts
Tick replied to Ripley Riley's topic in Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire Stories (Spoiler Warning!)
Holy **** hahaha. Their accents do sound similar. -
But a nerf isn't the right way, the release design should be the definitive one at least in terms of generally gameplay. Nerfing the whole thing after is just frustrating You're saying that the design the developers had when the game was released should be the same /not nerfed? It's definitely frustrating if it messes up what you're used to, so I get that. That said, I think it'd be hard for the developers to get the design 100% right before they release it and then have a ton of people playing to test it out. Obviously they test it before release, but it's just not on the same scale.
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There is a benevolent pre-made save, which generally goes with the kind /benevolent options, but I think it's also a bit of the "nicest for the player" pre-made save, because you get Vela (who you have to kidnap to have) in that one and Pallegina is fine because you helped the trade deal (that's bad for the Dyrwood) go through.
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No problem! Happy to help! It's not a guarantee, but it sounded like that kind of stuff might get added back in eventually. Going off a Josh post. Can you give me more specific questions re: the Wheel? I can't say we definitely won't reintroduce what was cut, but I don't think it's our highest priority, either. (...) Just a side note, but thank you for taking the time to answer some of the other questions even after the stream! It's much appreciated.
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Why do you care how people choose to play their single player game? Aside from what other people have mentioned, I think there's more discussion (right or wrong) about getting players to enjoy games more by designing them differently. The argument is that players tend to do what the easiest, safest, and most efficient thing is, even if it makes them miserable, and designing things so that they don't do things like that is supposed to make the game better. I generally side with the "Let players do what they want" angle, but I also don't mind the game developers trying to balance/design the game better if they think that's needed (though I'm sure they're getting a lot of pressure from some players/fans to do certain things).
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I believe all the gods punish you in some way if you break their oaths. I don't think they all recognize or seem to *especially* care if you did what they asked (which, in retrospect, is kind of funny). I actually thought the reactivity in Deadfire was generally really, really good. There are tons and tons of small things that are reactive to what you did in the previous game, especially for smaller choices you made. And Aloth (and I think Eder?) acts significantly differently based on the routes you took with him. Eder's quest endings are significantly different, for sure, depending on which way you pushed him in the first game. And an extreme example of specific reactivity with Maia is: I think Obsidian did a pretty spot on job with it. There's a huge list of things they added to the game that are just nods to the different choices you made in PoE1. They didn't make huge changes, for the most part, but that would be insane amounts of work, for choices that generally wouldn't apply when you're not in the Dyrwood, and would probably sacrifice the quality of other aspects of the game. My only complaint about reactivity in Deadfire is actually more a complaint about this weird story segregation between the main quest and the rest of the world. With exceptions, you can't talk about the nature of the gods or try to change things based on that directly, unless you're in the main quest or talking to your friends/companions from the first game. And even when new companions are around during moments that pretty much tell them what's going on, they don't react to it. They react to everything else (which is good, but makes it weirder). I get that a lot of people would reject what you have to say in the world, and the game does let you push the kith autonomy thing still (which is great!), but it's still so bizarre.
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Oh! So you did. It still may need to get moved to the Spoilers board. You could change it to a "This bugs me/what's going on here?" thread or a "Lore questions thread" or something? If that's more the vibe you're going for. (Obviously, you can keep it the same too) There has definitely been a little confusion about the story/lore. Edit: Ninja'd.