redneckdevil

that is fantatsic advice. sadly i kinda figured that for the most part I myself wouldnt be able to play but be stranded in the role of "generate substance for everyone else to enjoy". buts thats ok. i think i will only roll "my" charecters in the game plan only when it spices things up and mainly just come up with npcs like u said join the players only for a short while. i guess i can play my rogue in solo campaigns that i come up with.......but if i being fair and not cheating, is it allowed for me to do that? leveling up charecters or npcs in the background and such outside of the group campaigns as long as i stay true and fair and not just ezymode my way to fantatsic loot or die and be somehow risen later etc etc?

keep the advice coming! lol ya so far (thank u obsidian!) im trying to come up with encounters and situations and plan different variables just incase soemthign goes unexpected lol. trying to come up with main idea for the quests and then filling them in and then what i fill in make sure i have backup plans and c&c for stuff that happens expectenly and unexpectenly. right now for my first "real" campaign, im stealing a story from an ingame tes book (the one about a thief who recruits a mad fighter who speaks giberish only to have in the end it wasnt gibberish at all but dire warnings) and adding alot and taking alot out to fit. even coming up with ways to get the players out of the "door that isnt a door" scenario and such. also do have a question. as the DM i want to play a charecter as well so i was thinking of setting everything up with my half elf rogue who would be my charecter but have a "mad" cleric as a npc whos our healer (who seems harmless at first but i have big plans for him in the future and also gonna use him as a springboard for starting quests up). i know i am a DM so i will know what gonna happen and as a rogue i really hate to basically "perception" lay everything out on the map for everyone. So im thinking a way to prevent that would be that my rogue is being hunted so hes being really cautious so he basically stays with the "crazy" healer and makes the other people scout and whatnot. Secretly its so he dosent get ambushed away from the party but tells them that since he has the map and hes the one paying, the other players are doing the work. how does that sound? i mainly wanna play as well but so far im gonna be stuck as DM so any advice in how to play the game but not automaically spoil it for the others being a high perception rogue? i know im gonna have to play my charecter void of the knowledge that me the DM has and thats fine, i just wanna not automatically "perception" spot every encounter for the other players and void them of chances of getting into traps or ambushed. i want them to get into traps and ambushed dammit! lol

Same, ubisoft better not delay the game several months just so they can latch on their drm and try to have it compete in the Christmas sales. I believe they jad the best idea releasing it between march and may because Feb u have some heavy hitter but the other months hardly nothing out so it would get bigger recognition instead of fighting for spotlight with a heavy hitter.

it could be like tes daedras and aedras type worship, where none except the extreme fanatical claim theirs is the true gods but more inline with they worship the deity that fits to their personality or a deity that they feel can benefit from. If its going with the greek style range of gods, then I believe the citizens of the land just worship the deitys they feel represents their values or needs. They all know that this isnt the ONLY deity and that there are others. Itd be like they can pick and chose or have their culture favor or force citizens to worship certain ones. I dont think ull see people stating theirs is the only deity unless they are deranged, fanagic, or ignorant. Great update! Love the artwork and the bit about the deitys. So far looking very promising

well just an update, thanks to all the info I got a hefty amazon order coming in the mail soon lol. My kids are excited and ready to try it out and lo and behold I found out 2 of my good friends used to play dnd wayy back in the day and would love to run again. Again thanks yal for all the info and wish me luck as a newbie thats not only still learning the game, but gonna be hosting and creating campaigns for us. Damn im excited

besides the drm steam uses which tbh im not really against, his company has made alot of respectable decisions in games and practices. I actually got my fingers crossed their "console" actually does well. Microsoft looks after and supports xbox, nintendo looks after and protects Wii and gameboys, Sony looks after and protects PS users. Who do PC users have? Gabe the closest I can think of. Say what we will about steam but me kn my area, I wouldnt have anywhere near the games I have on my harddrive or library if its wasnt for steam and gog catalog s.

Ty yal for all the advise! Right now looking up the info yal posted. So far I got a few friends who might run it with me but I honestly think my core group will be my kids who are 5, 6, and 9. Granted im gonna do the math part for them lol. Now I was looking and 2 quick questions. The campaigns I can buy, do they come with game maps I can use? Also was thinking of buying the 4 premade charecter minis but was wondering if I bought a brick would that be enough minis for a bout 4 people playing or should I double up with 2 bricks? Granted I know I dont have to have the minis, but seeing how my kids are younger, I feel itd be easier for them to connect and identify to the game. Again thanks so much for yals answers and responses

awwww =(

Ok first off im a bit of a noob at pen and paper pathfinder but I really enjoy. So much im thinking of starting my own games for pathfinder games. The question is, what exactly do I need? What books will I need, where can I get maps and ideas for campaigns, and how many and what dice will I need? I know this is alot but if someone can point me to the exact books ill need and so forth I would greatly appreciate it so I can start gming games for my kids. Thanks in advance.

Forgive me im new at the pen and paper seeing how I just recently had my first game of it. Man! Its alot of fun! Well seeing how I read up thats to the pathfinder app, my charecter creation only took about an hour and a half. He had to explain alot of stuff for me. Well I thought id share my first game experience and hopefully others that remember their first game or one that sticks out. Well here I go. First I created a half-elf rogue thats chaotic nuetral. I forgot the town but come to find out a dwarven cleric needs an escort for him and his donkey up to the mines to drop off supplys. The path has grown dangerous crom the goblins and....orcs?? Dangit I forgot...but anyway he pays half up front and I find an inn to drink and eat for the quest in the morn. We get on the path and I decide to scout ahead. I roll for perception and I see a goblin a ways up the path. Well I xecide hes a ways off so I run 30 feet and then I was gonna sneak the other 30. Didnt happen. Unawares to me the goblin spots me before I can go in sneak mode. He comes up demanding a toll of 30g. I bluff and say that the goblin should run away because I got 10 guys behind me. I roll and success and the goblin says 5g and we can all pass. Well my rogues a tightwade and I intimidate and say "how would u like a dagger in ur throat?" Intimidation fails. 2 other goblins spring outta trees near me and start an attack. I shot my crossbow and kill one of them and one misses me. The other grazes me but im a glass cannon rogue with 8 health points and im yelling cor the fat dwarf to come to help. Battle insues, I atk with my daggers, I get heals, goblins end up dead. I get scolded by the priest BC I should be more sneaky while we load up his donkey with the armor and weapons from the fallen bodies. Well anyway I dont take any chances. Im sneaky like panda and soon I spot a goblin taking a wizz. I roll and shot my crossbow. Crit and hit, goblin pinned to a tree. Well we fight a couple more battles til we come towards a log. I use perception and notice a trap on it. I tell the dwarf theres a trap up ahead and he says I should disarm it. Im like screw that, hes wanting to pay me something right there so future wanderers arent hurt by it. I see he pulls out a great big bag of gold. I tell the GM im roll for sleight of hand on the dwarf. He like what? Sure go ahead. I roll a 20 and his fat purse is mine. I lie to the dwarf and tell him to go up and ill go down to disarm, when really I sent him right into the trap. Well trap is sprung and dwarf almost dead and lo and behold goblins come out to investigate. I sneak away while the cleric and his donkey are killed and im not seen at all so I get away easily. I have to say the GM was not expecting a neewbie as myself to do such so he was a bit flabbergasted and said he was noy expecting that at all lol. It was a shorter game than he had planned for but im happy I was able to surprise him and have fun at same time. So theres my very first experience, whats some of urs or a memorable experience that u are willing to share?

Since im a firm supporter of Gabe, will I be able to play and stay online with steam but set offline with uplay?

Well ubisoft did say it was scheduled for release in 2013, but thats l they said. No dates were given only that itd be out this year still. My giess is we gonna have a longgg wait still...

Ya I think they said something about pen and paper, but I cant really recall what though. Does anyone know what or if they said about a pe pen and paper?

but they did at one point say they was thinking of making a pen and paper model if the game did well though?

Ok im confused about Uplay, what is this?

Ok, can anyone refresh me on this? I seem to recall something along the lines of an actual pen and paper version as well along with actual game. Am I just crazy or did they say something else?

I would also like to actually read or hear other languages. Like if im in a bar on my halfelf...dunno if thatd be in the game or not...but anyway, have him walk into a bar and a group of dwarves are chatting. If I dont have that language, I would like to see them talking in dwarven and such. Instead of everyone always talking in common, would love to actually not understand sometimes what people are saying.

hopefully sps gets it back from thq

as far as release date, I heard it was pushed back to april/may but atm steam still has the release date for it as march 5 or 4th.

ow god this has been an enjoyable read. I myself am totally and fully a virgin in pnp and just met some guys the other nite at the place I worked at and they invited me to their sessions. They told me they using pathfinder and ive been reading to not seem to idiotic when I first show up but im guessing things will click in place when I get their and hands dirty. Granted I have been reading EVERYTHING so granted im lost of course. But I agree, I wish I could find some good pnp shows on youtube or something so I know what im gegting into. Im pretty excited

I would enjoy seeing a FF Kefka-like villian, one who just wants to watch the world burn, also I enjoyed dagoth ur and vivec as villians. Ones pronouced as a villian but really hes only a villian necause his master plan for world peace had a flaw in it and one was pronouced as a good guy but was actually one of the ones who started the whole cycle of chaos and destruction for greedy and personal power.

dont think the actual events themselves will be in the show or in the shows "history". I think itd be more of a standalone scenario that basically the events happened during a "normal" or normal for the kids standards of events that happened. Something that wasnt basically out of the norm for them.

Happy new year and get to feelin better yal!

Is Viacom the owner and thq just the person who distributes?

Ow God, EA is stepping in to buy some titles! I have a bad feeling about sp:sot. Please tell me its basically finished so that ea cant force a multiplayer mode in it and please tell me its not ending in a cliff hanger. First time ever im excited about a southpark game and now im worried as hell.