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Watcher: What do you think about this place? Eder: It's green.

Chill Fog was a rare exception where a damage-dealing Wizard spell didn't hit allies. This meant you could safely stick it directly on your squad to damage anyone who got close. Now it hurts your team too. I actually agree that it could use a buff now. The issue is that nerfing it in this way has the opposite effect and makes Fan of Flames superior. Fan of Flames seems superior on the damage front, but it's cone shape AOE and ability to damage allies made it situational. Chill fog wasn't as devistating but was useful more often. Now it's just not so great.

In mine he wanted to ensure the Leaden Key was all but wiped out, so I'm guessing you hold quite a lot of sway over what Aloth does.

I get this, I'm just a tad disappointed in it from a roleplay perspective. I wanted to be challenged with tough decisions, not "here's a safe choice, here's a choice some ditz obsessed with birds told you might be cool."

Here's the plan squad: Elerond is the bait. Let's hope he stays alive long enough for us to shoot the bears dead. If not, we shall then hope the ranger's pets can survive so that we are not forced to abandon their beloved furry companions. If the animals die too, then good luck to our Paladin who lacks the distance advantage neccesary to make a successful retreat. Should it come to that, I will meet you guys at the local inn where we can drink away our sorrows.

I wonder how the bigger backers feel about everyone feeling encouraged to slaughter them.

Wanna go on an adventure with me, the paladin and the two rangers so we can all get eaten by bears together?

If I made my own RPG, the stats would be: Stronkness Thinkability Alcoholism Sanic intimidation capacity Ugliness Ugliness and Alcoholism effect how well liked you are, but inversely, high alcoholism has the penalty of effecting accuracy whereas low Ugliness means you're less durable to being punched, so both stats have upsides and downsides. Sanic Intimidation Capacity is your quickness and ability to dodge but also comes with a penalty to how liked you are because why is the Sanic fanbase so awkward wtf. Stronkness and Thinkability would be the two I'd have to nerf with patches that are OP at the start.

I'm not sure if I should just rename the thread "which character do you wanna be exactly like" or let it continue, given responses thusfar. Anyways, mine would look something like this: -Meadow Human cause I'm white as hell Aryan dude with long blonde hair wtf, and I suck at anything fantasy; none of the races jump at me -Cipher cause something about it speaks to me. I view "messing with and manipulating people's minds" akin to convincing them and understanding them, both of which I good at. (yay for sounding arrogant) Runner up prize to Chanter cause hell yeah for ghetto midevil entertainers, I'd TOTALLY sing songs at people doing the actual work. 11 13 14 15 16 9 Constitution up cause I know enduring pain from surgeries, Dex up cause quick with hands and reaction time, Perception up because I do well with picking up on what people are like or spotting lies, Int up cause I have a massive ego and think I'm Stephen Hawking (complimenting one's Int always seems so arrogant). Might was more or less left there for modest physical strength, Resolve I brought down cause my determination and drive are total ass. I dun has those. -Went with Aedyr as backround because "largest empire" and I'm a citizen of both the USA and Germany. Picked Drifter because I started in San Francisco and now live in Germany; I think I've earned my drifter badge. Most of my Cipher talents would revolve around things like charm and confusion rather than raw damage. I would probably wield a pistol because it seems like the most simple and straightforward to use weapon type. I'd also prefer to not wear armor cause wtf that stuff is heavy. Leather or Chainmail's not so heavy so those would be fine, but anything heavier? Screw that.

I checked it out, was amazed aswell. Then I saw the article "These happy pandas just won't stop f***ing. Pandas Lulu and Zhen Zhen set record for panda sex endurance" complete with a photo of them in the act, and was more amazed it took this long to get ads off of Gawker.

Lolwhy Just doesn't seem like his specialty.

How is Berath speculating? What Berath is offering is a certainty. It's the way things work by default. Anything else is variance from the norm.

Glad to see everybody is showing discontent and would rather be their favorite companion.

What class would you be, what race, what would your stats look like? I thought this might be a fun thread to make and thought it'd be interesting to see what people come up with. The idea is to make a semi-accurate representation of yourself as a Pillars character, solely in the interest of seeing what kind of characters and character diversity we come I'm with here on the forums and amongst our community. Here's how it works 1. First, ask yourself what race you would be. Since obviously we're all human but that might be a tad boring if all of us choose human as our race, ask yourself if you fit the mold of one of the fictional races. For example, are you freakishly tall? Maybe you can be an Aumana. Are you from Hawaii or some other island? Be an Island aumaua. Are you freakishly short? Be a dwarf. Do you live in the middle of nowhere in Canada or Russia? Boreal dwarf! Are you often marginalized and/or you are a registered member of tumblr? Be a Hearth Orlan! Are you italian and you've read all the backround info on Old Vailia and it's culture and feel it rings true with some of your own? Then be an ocean human. There is no exact system to this, and if you want, you can opt to be a normal human and simply pick the subspecies of human that best matches your skin tone. What's important is you pick a race (and subrace) and name why you are a member of that race. Your argument could be as simple as "Aumaua are big and stronk and I too am tall and swole" or it could be based on something complex that makes you feel as though you relate to that race. Just pick one and name why that race relates to you and reflects who you are. Please do not end up going "I'm a moon godlike because I think it's the strongest subrace and I wanna have a strong character lolz," the point of this thread is to see the diversity our community has, not what the meta is. 2. Pick a Class. Again it's quite simple. You're simply looking at the classes and thinking which one best reflects you and what you're capable of. Are you intelligent? Wizard probably suits you. Are you good at getting in people's heads, persuasion and manipulation? Sounds like a Cipher. Are you a great storyteller and entertainer? Chanter sounds like a great option. Maybe you just really love animals or you're a big fan of archery or firearms, so you're a Ranger. ARE YOU A GOD DAMNED FURRY?? Druid is ready to not judge you! Hurray! Are you physically strong, healthy and durable? Fighter! Do you consider yourself a religious individual? Be a Priest or Paladin and pick the order that most rings true with your beliefs and outlook. Again it's quite simple. You're just making a case for why that class suits you and who you are. And again, please do not be like "I'm a Cipher cuz it's a strong class and I wanna be strong lol." After you've chosen a class, you might name what talents you've chosen and why. For example maybe you chose Barb as your class and you have anger issues you admit to, so Frenzy was your starting talent and talents you choose are offense-focused. Or maybe you don't have anger issues but your friends and family often tell you you have a loud voice, so you picked Barbaric Yell instead. Maybe you're a Cipher with great capacity to persuade people and mess with their heads, so your talents are all ailment based. Or maybe you lack such skills, so you only deal raw damage. You get the idea. 3. Pick your stat card. For this, please refer to the descriptions of the stats. For example, Resolve is listed as such: See the bolded and underlined? Ask yourself how much that description applies to you, then try to determine how many points in Resolve you've earned. Maybe you have plenty of internal drive and determination, but you're by no means fearless and you lack emotional intensity, so you end up at around a 10. So you've got your 10, but you consider yourself not SUPER determined, so you drop it to a 9. Just do that with all of the stats. Pretty straightforward, no? Since half of Might's description is "magic talent," consider that a freebie and give yourself as many points as you'd like there while still adhering partially to the physical strength portion. DO NOT focus so much on optimizing your stats for the sake of a practical build within the game. Focus on who you are, and we'll either be amazed at how well it translates or how hilariously bad it doesn't. Any stat descriptions can be found here: http://pillarsofeternity.gamepedia.com/Attribute If you don't know off the top of your head, stats default at 10 and you get an additional 15 to put where you want, alongside some additional stats you'll get from race and culture. 4. Culture? Which backround country best reflects your own, and which job description best reflects your own? Read the descriptions of them, see what seems to fit the geography and/or culture of where you live, then pick a backround that suits you or your job or lack thereof. Again, just name your country and job description, then explain why you came to that conclusion. 5. Misc stuff If you want to, feel free to include little things like perhaps which character avatar you'd use or which weapon/armor type you would use. Any little extra tidbits you feel like adding, whether it be the entire character talent sheet all the way up to level 12, the skills you'd focus on, the belief system you'd adhere to, the dialog type you'd be gravitated towards, the color of the uniform you'd wear or the faction you'd kill off to steal their sweet fashion - anything extra you feel is worth adding or mentioning. As I said, point of this was just to see the diversity of the community and what kind of characters end up being produces. I think it could be entertaining to see what class or race we end up seeing the most of, or how practical/impractical our stat sheets end up looking. Hopefully people actually get some entertainment out of this, I'll post what my own character would look like in a moment.

More importantly, there are alternatives with safer bonuses, for example humans provide both a damage and accuracy bonus when they hit 50%, but they retain the bonus even after being healed. A Moon Godlike self-heals when hitting certain endurance thresholds, a heal that extends to all nearby allies. A heal is universally welcome and can help both a tank or needs to keep tanking or a caster who needs to figure out an escape before continuing to deal damage; you might die with just a mere stat bonus before it can mean anything. Not to mention the multiple classes with consistent defensive or offensive benefits....

My issue is I consider it a stretch of the imagination. I can roleplay a character that wishes to do good for the world, but I have no real desire to roleplay a total derp who cannot see Berath as a tempting, more secure counter-offer. If I were to roleplay such a character, I would see both options as being morally good, but with Berath's being less likely to blow something up by a clear mile, and ultimately settle for that choice since all souls have still been saved. I often roleplay really flawed characters who are either very selfish or have personal issues that make thinking clearly difficult. Roleplaying someone who makes good decisions that never blow up their faces is boring. There is a reason I stopped playing complete goody-goody types. I want more drama in my games than that. You make clever characters, I make characters who may not see very clearly. I mean, if my character was a parent who lost a child, would they still feel the same way, that it's more important that the cycle moves on rather than that parents get their children back, broken, but alive? They may emphatise very strongly with the children that had Hollowborn children. People often make good choices as long as they have no personal stake in this. But if someone has an emotional connection, then there is more nuance. Even if such a character would forego Hylea's choice, it would still be interesting from roleplaying perspective, because now they would have to live with the doubts and the "what could have been". I can roleplay flaws with the proper motivation. FFS my character I just finished I roleplayed as a hothead and thus took aggressive choices when they were clearly detrimental or unneccesary. This however...It's too close. The alignment between the effects of Hylea and Berath are similar with both wanting something positive, but whereas one explains to you that there's a natural order and that disturbing it could have any number of negative outcomes, the other responds "YOLO 420." If you roleplay a character that supports either of these two, they probably have an interest in "the greater good." But whereas one guarentees you the safety of the souls, the other does not. Any rational human being would take the safe choice. There is no greed or anger or personal flaw to motivate you the other direction as you're calmly talking to both and both are offering the same thing with one having a superior argument. My point is I find it an utter shame that the spectrum of character archetypes with reason to support Hylea would be abysmally small. Berath would take a disproportionately larger cut of the morally good characters, thus making Hylea a very....wasted option. I could make 20 characters with varying personalities and not once roll a character with the proper motivations to support her. The same cannot be said for Woedica or Berath or Magran or even Rymrgand. But Hylea and Wael? I consider them very, VERY limited when it comes to characters that'd support them, to the point I question if I'll ever see the effects of their endings. In both cases, this could be avoided if my concerns were met with actual answers, and not responses akin to "BIRDS R PRETTY" or:

Nope. My tanks/CC keeps my Barb and Rogues above 50% most of the time even on POTD. Besides, that Human bonus does not last very long at all. For a Barb, something Orlan/Death will most likely be used in the majority of encounters due to carnage. QFT. If you're getting below 50% on a regular basis, you're in bad shape. In what way? Barbs, Monks and Paladins all get involved with some degree of tanking damage, but all three are expected to take some degree of endurance damage. As such, they will undoubtedly trigger a Moon Godlike's healing effect, which will undoubtedly help preserve them and any nearby allies. Rangers and Wizards are going to keep their distance almost universally. As such, the Wood Elf bonus is a guarentee for them 95% of the time. It's a pure offensive benefit, which goes nicely with their offensive capabilities. Fighters are expected to tank and Rogues benefit from flanked (already targeted) enemies. As such, both get good use out of Hearth Orlans. Many of the other classes too can also see Hearth Orlan as a sort of default for if you cannot decide if you want that class to be ranged or a tank or not. Anything I wasn't sure of, I thought Coastal Aumaua or Wild Orlan. For example a stun attempt on my Priest is very bad, and both of these provide some attempt of defense against that scenario so that my Priest can continue casting spells. Even IF you look at my list and say "DATS NOT HOW I'D USE THEM," well then ask yourself how YOU like to use said classes (for example I put Hearth Orlan on Cipher because I typically don't have my Ciphers hiding way in the back, as they often come towards the front lines or engage an enemy to use some of the shorter range spells) and make a list all the same. I'm betting we would see a general concensus amongst multiple lists.

But, given the nature of the gods.... this is entirely fitting. She is beauty and art and birds and... nothing else. None of the gods have a moral dimension. But she's a derp. The point of choices is they're all supposed to feel valid. I cannot imagine myself being convinced by her, making it hard to think up a character that would support her without that character being a derp themselves. Come to think of it, Wael of all people kind of falls into the same category. Wael's speech is essentially "launch them into SPACE! :D Because SCIENCE! :D" Then when you say "but we have no clue what would happen then and these are lives we're talking about," his response is "exactly! SCIENCE! :D" I'd just be a bit more satisfied if two of my choices weren't derpy as hell. Woedica is the selfish choice, Berath is the sensible one, Magran and co offer the sensible experiment (aka we're not quite sure what this will do entirely but it should at least strengthen those who remain) and the rest make very poor arguments. I think your problem is that you are looking from a logical standpoint and not from the standpoint of roleplaying a character. My issue is I consider it a stretch of the imagination. I can roleplay a character that wishes to do good for the world, but I have no real desire to roleplay a total derp who cannot see Berath as a tempting, more secure counter-offer. If I were to roleplay such a character, I would see both options as being morally good, but with Berath's being less likely to blow something up by a clear mile, and ultimately settle for that choice since all souls have still been saved.

Here, I have an idea: In the interest of trying to showcase what classes are considered the best, everyone list off the 11 classes and name which race you think would be best for that class. Like this: Barbarian: Moon Godlike Chanter: Coastal Aumaua Cipher: Hearth Orlan Druid: Coastal Aumaua Fighter: Hearth Orlan/Coastal Aumaua/Wild Orlan Monk: Moon Godlike Paladin: Moon Godlike Priest: Coastal Aumaua/Wild Orlan Ranger: Wood Elf Rogue: Hearth Orlan Wizard: Wood Elf To me, it seems clear that Hearth Orlan, Wood Elves and Moon Godlike are the most easily exploitable. Anything where I don't expect range or do not expect Range guarenteed consistently, I want a Hearth Orlan. Anything I expect to tank with and take significant damage with, I want a Moon Godlike. Anything I expect to have consistent range with, I want a Wood Elf. If none of these are perfectly applicable or it's the kind of class with a lot of utility that I'd like to remain up, then Coastal Aumaua and Wild Orlan feel like safe defaults because both of them gain defenses for free without conditions needed to trigger them, and more importantly both of them gain defenses from someone attempting to stun or disable them and prevent them from providing me with support. Looking at my list, it seems clear Hearth Orlan, Moon Godlike and Wood Elves are considered top tier for me, whereas Wild Orlans and Coastal Aumaua are also quite good. Anything else? I have limited motivation to use. Fire and Death Godlike you could potentially make arguments for, but I consider both inferior to the healing Moon Godlike can provide. Humans are a fair default on any class that deals damage and could possibly go in place of some of my Coastal Aumaua choices if you're more offensively inclined, but again they're situational comparatively. Anything else is RIDICULOUSLY situational or provides a bonus that doesn't seem as neccesary. The main thing the races I named have in common is that their bonuses they receive are reliable and consistent, with the top tier three having especially powerful racials that can help offense or defense significantly, while the ones that are still good but not amazing provide "safe" racials that are universally beneficial, and thus easy to stick onto classes where I'm not sure if I'd like to use them more aggressively or have them hang in the back, but I know to value their utility capabilites and thus value any bonus that can help them stay on their feet.

I think on stats and armor it's important to note that this is practically a truth of reality. What I mean is, I can theoretically make, for example, a Cipher with 3's in Constitution and Resolve while maxing out every other stat, and I would get nothing but benefit from doing so so long as I keep people off him. The same can be said of him wearing robes or running around naked. It's ideal, but the risk is that if anything breaks past my fighters and so much as touches him, he's going to go down quick, and then the conventional average-joe Cipher would be superior in that scenario because he can at least tank a bit, buy time, and continue attacking while being attacked. It's a sort of risk-vs-reward mentality where objectively yes, the build you named provides the highest potential result, and so long as things go according to plan, you've named the most efficient setup imagineable. It starts to be less picture perfect when the game provides scenarios in which keeping things picture perfect is not feasible or next to impossible. Then suddenly it's a case of that Cipher being superior for most fights, but inferior for the tougher ones, aka half as long, twice as bright. I don't really know a feasible way to fix this by tweaking stats because regardless of how you tweak them, a Meta will prevail. In that regard, I don't know that I would name this a flaw of the armor and stat systems, but rather a flaw of the content encountered. This to me suggests an effort needs to be made to try and make battles more diverse and more challenging. Perhaps tweak AI on bow users for example to be more liable to target casters in the back and prod their defenses. Perhaps provide a decent amount of instances in game in which you are approached from behind or from all sides, making protecting your back units a little more difficult. Such variety would create more demand for compromise and middle-ground builds, as the middle ground builds where the Cipher does get medium armor and a decent amount of Resolve are the ones holding a plan B card. It's tough to say really, but I'm just not sure if there's a way they could feasibly fix those two problems otherwise.

If you wondering about why Putin have this much support, the short answer is: there is simply no alternative to Putin. I'll elaborate a bit. If you are familiar with election mechanism, you probably know that you can only rigg them up to a certain degree. Usually its 3-7%, 10% tops. Well you can probably stretch as far as 15% if you want every observer to point finger in your direction and make a scandal. It would make sense to do when candidates are closely tied, but in case with Putin its would only cast unnecessary shade on your win. In Russia, ruling party dominates by dividing electoral base of "opposition" to the smaller parties. For example, back in 90s, long before Putin, Communist Party had really good chances of coming back to power through election as most people at that point realized they got cheated. So after that Kremlin promoted creation of parties with different shades of socialistic agendas, like Fair Russia, LDPR and so on, to divide communists electoral base. In 2000, Putin was brought to power as a figure of compromise, an arbiter between various clans of power. But due to his action in his first 2 terms he actually gained people support which gave him quite a big degree of independance. For example first two things that come to mind would be, winning Chechen war and making oligarchs to pay taxes. Now you can see why after huge disaster of 90s, a strong and decicive leader like Putin won people's love. It may be hard to believe now, but back in 2008, after his 2nd term Putin actually was planning to retire and leave country to Medvedev as his sucсessor. Medvedev's presidency turned out to be one huge /facepalm instead. Medvedev's betrayal of Libiya, his inability to act during 08.08.08 Georgian agression, and his controversial renaming of militia into police didnt win him much love. Story goes on. In 2012, Washington tried to promote an opposition in Russia with an anti-corruption agenda. The idea was quite good by itself, and in first weeks of protests in december 2012, Kremlin was actually disoriented by turn of events. The problem was in a Washington's choice of people for leaders positions for this. I wont go into much detail but, basically, people saw two options: either Putin, or a bunch of "pro-US, corrrupt hysterical snobs". Choice was quite obvious, especially after Libiya events. And on top of that, return of Crimea in 2014 gave Putin a huge poeple support, thus he ended with 86% rating. Now to the question of why a lot of people became disappointed with Putin over the years. While Putin was brough to power as arbiter between clans of power, his actions in punishing Khodorkovsky and forcing oligarchs to pay taxes, gave him huge support but at the same time people started to expect more from him. In people's conscience every oligarch is a thief. Privatization in 90s was a crime. So when Khodorkovsky was punished, a lot of naive people expected other oligarchs to follow, and Privatization revised. Didnt happened. Following years, a few scandals with insubordination in the government, corruption in the Ministry of Defence, people waiting for heads to start rolling, but instead nothing. So most people who dissapointed in Putin thinks that he's too soft. While that has some degree of truth, i should note that one of the major problems Putin faces, is the lack of competent people for the job. I wrote earlier about Central Bank destructive policy towards economy, but they still there cause there are no people to replace them. So the real problem before Russia (and Putin is aware of it) is the lack of proper political field which results in shortage of personnel for government. Yeah I've heard this before, sadly. Always worded slightly different and with slightly different focuses, but I've always been very curious about Russia. I'm curious about various cultures and countries in general, but Russians have been the hardest to figure out just because a lot of them have little interest in politics, saying that their vote does not ultimately matter or that there truly is no choice to be made. Putin's actions with the oligarchs are the one constant thing I always hear praised, and often I'm told he's irreplaceable. You suggest that there's simply not a qualified alternative to him, I've heard others voice concern the oligarchs would run things again if Putin were gone. It seems unfortunate to me because I always like to think all countries have an interest in progress and working together, because why wouldn't we? Now though, unfortunately it seems like Russia and the West are at another impasse and no one seems to know exactly how to fix it. On one hand I would criticize Putin and how Crimea was handled. On the other hand, I'm not so arrogant to doubt the overwhelming Russian opinion that he is important for the country. I said I have seen some people lose support for Putin, and the Russians who have said they don't like Putin as much now, I think said so because Crimea has shown that Putin is not completely in control. There was a bit of a stand-off between Russia and Europe and/or the USA, and ultimately Russia got hurt the most from the sanctions (though of course sanctions are bad for all parties). I think they expected Putin to be a little....bolder? Or more capable of handling the situation in a way that benefits Russia? This would align well with how you said some people think he has not done enough or is becoming soft. I do find it concerning however that Russia has gone so long with Putin as leader. I just mean that in a general sense, because the moment he's gone, what exactly is Russia going to do...? Even when Medvedev took office, my Russian friends here had the attitude of "Psssh it's all fake, Putin will be back and he's still in charge." They were right, but eventually he really will be gone. It runs the risk of functioning like a dictatorship. Not in the sense that he has absolute power or is free to be a tyrant, but in the sense that when he dies or leaves office, it will be very difficult to find a suitable replacement, and even if one is found, people will probably cling to that leader too.

But, given the nature of the gods.... this is entirely fitting. She is beauty and art and birds and... nothing else. None of the gods have a moral dimension. But she's a derp. The point of choices is they're all supposed to feel valid. I cannot imagine myself being convinced by her, making it hard to think up a character that would support her without that character being a derp themselves. Come to think of it, Wael of all people kind of falls into the same category. Wael's speech is essentially "launch them into SPACE! :D Because SCIENCE! :D" Then when you say "but we have no clue what would happen then and these are lives we're talking about," his response is "exactly! SCIENCE! :D" I'd just be a bit more satisfied if two of my choices weren't derpy as hell. Woedica is the selfish choice, Berath is the sensible one, Magran and co offer the sensible experiment (aka we're not quite sure what this will do entirely but it should at least strengthen those who remain) and the rest make very poor arguments.

Backstory is essentially GamerGate. That's the elephant in the room really. One side argues video game journalists are corrupt, the other side claims it's not about corruption and it's about gamers being sexist and racist and all the bad words in the world. Over half a year down the line, calling out gamers for things perceived as sexist/racist/homophobic/transphobic is at an all time high because the anti-GamerGate side views it as relevant to a bigger problem with gaming culture, while the patience the GamerGate side has for such things is at an all-time low because it's seen as overly reactionary crap that stems from tumblr's sick hugbox culture which is ultimately serving no purpose but to distract from the actual corruption in games media and distract from focusing on real issues that bring about real progress. What neither side is recognizing is that such a conflict is to the detriment of developers like Obsidian. Here it's perceived as either censorship if it's removed and pandering to a crowd that doesn't respect artistic integrity and wants to legislate/dictate which plots and joke and the like are acceptable, whereas the other side views it as a living example that Obsidian themselves are transphobic or sexist or whatever should they keep it. I've repeatedly remarked in this thread (and stand by it) that I think both sides are lacking in empathy here and pouring their agendas into the issue without considering Obsidian might have a god damn opinion of their own that's unaffected by social pressure. If Obsidian is making this decision themselves (which we lack sufficient proof to prove otherwise and to prove their decision is affected by social pressure), then all of the investment into this discussion about how this is about censorship or common decency and respect is absolutely moot. As I've said, it's just a joke. It'll offend some and make others laugh. Obsidian is in their right to determine if they wanna keep it or not. Anyone who reads further into their decision and attempts to understand their motives while lacking absolute definitive proof is merely projecting their agenda onto the matter, should realize this, and back off and leave Obsidian alone. Social Justice Warriors, AKA people on the internet who believe they need to fight social justice and discrimination. The term has as much negative connotation as it does positive because while one side would tell you it's a good term for obvious reasons, the opposing side would accuse SJWs of being overzealous, overly-sensitive and overly-eager to fight about issues and accuse others of being intolerant and not progressive enough.

It's almost as if starting a war with people who feed your paycheck is a really ****ing stupid idea that only mentally unstable people would consider worth fighting or something.

Not so much a spoiler, I just wanted to talk about her. Am I the only one that thought she came across as a total ditz and an idiot? You talk to Berath and Berath's just like "listen man, I get your concerns, but this is how the world works. There's a balance to it, and any attempt to toy with it and disrupt the world will only cause problems, you feel me?" There was a Taoist quid pro quo to Berath that just made sense, and before I even spoke with the other Gods, I was convinced to sign on with Berath. Hell, even knowing the end-game truth I consider Berath a worthy "God" as there's a respect for the natural order and nature of things. So when I promised to do what Berath wanted, I thought "crap, what if Hylea is really convincing too and has an option that seems better?" So I do her mission and talk to her, and I didn't kill the dragon. She asks why and I say because motherhood is one of her pantheons, as are winged creatures, and that dragon was a mother. Hylea then responds with "but dragons breed death and destruction for others, what beauty could they bring to this world?" One of my responses was essentially "DEY R PURTY. DEY R A WONDER TO BEHOLD." I chose it thinking "this'll NEVER work, my character sounds like a retard." It ****ing worked. Girl is all like "INDEED, THEY TRULY ARE BEAUTIFUL, THE WAY THEY LIGHT **** ON FIRE." So at this point I'm like "listen dude, I need your help jumping in that big freaking hole" and she says you got it, she then asks me to return the souls to the Hollowborn. Rightfully, I can bring up Berath's cautions and respond with something along the lines of "Wouldn't that have reprocussions? Surely it's not that simple and things are bound to go wrong?" She responds "BUT IF YOU CAN SAVE EVEN JUST ONE BEAUTIFUL LIFE BY DOING SO, IT WILL BE WORTH IT~~" in her mystical-ass, sing-songy tone. Listen dimwit, people get reborn in this universe. If they end up waiting in the wheel as souls a tad longer and some parents had to experience failed births, that's unfortunate and inconvenient, but simply returning the process to normal saves those souls in the long run. I'm sitting here concerned that something might go wrong if I try to return these souls to 4-year-old bodies, bodies that've been neglected with minimal care or the like, and your best counterargument is "YOLO?" So as I stand there critiquing what I just heard, all this idiot can say is "I LIKE SONGS AND BIRDS AND PAINTINGS ~~" This is a God? This is the most disappointing sorry excuse for a "God" I've ever seen. If she's supposed to offer the morally good (or at least well-intentioned) option, I'm not anywhere close to convinced. I can expect a bit of "do it because it's the right thing" where, say for example we spare someone who's death could mean we get to advance in the plotline and see to the greater good of the world, meaning we're sparing them with no plan B ready but we do so because we're determined to do things the right way and to find a plan B instead of resorting to murder. That I can expect from a "morally good" sort of alignment; I can expect some degree of missing logic if it means upholding to morals. But when there's another god saying "listen I can guarentee you that all damage will cease the moment those souls are returned to the Wheel" and all this girl can say is "WE SHOULD TAKE UNNECCESARY RISK BECAUSE SONGS R PRETTY AND I WANT TO HEAR DEM," then I wish she could get fired from her job. I wish there were an employer these Gods answered to and that when layoffs rolled around, Hylea got the axe. I just wanted to know, am I the only one that responded this way? Am I the only one that thought she came off as a total ditz?