Azdeus

I've been working traffic for a week and 2 days now, and people have already started deferring to me. Again. -.-

The only homework I ever did in school was when the social sciences teacher told us to read news for the next class, I didn't get penalized for not doing homework either.

Not even Pruttin is crazy enough to want Scania

Greed actually, the right stopped it, but we got some tax cuts! The left party actually wanted to dismantle the army completely up until two years ago if I recall correctly, lol.

Yeah, it's sort of the same here ofcourse, there's two party that is still hard against it. The Left Party and Greens want it to be put to a public vote, and then follow the will of the people. It sucks that Sweden stopped our peace time conscription in something like 2010, which to the end was a pathetic 4% of eligible people being accepted for it, so we are woefully unprepared right now. Atleast you have a decent army at the moment. I still think a better option would be to increase Swedish defensive spending and have an alliance between us. That said, I'd respect Finland for joining NATO, you have better reasons than Swedes do. I honestly don't think Kanisatha is alone at all in his opinion of Sweden joining, I think NATO'd take Sweden in as the retarded cousin to Finland in a way, they already have full access basically to our weapons tech so they don't need us in NATO for that, and I do belive the military industry is lobbying for it, because we have to buy metric ****-tonnes of equipment to get up to NATO standard.

He hasn't invaded Gotland though

Quite hyperbolic, but I think the quote is quite correct actually. Very interesting, terryfingly so

Well, most polls point to about a 50/50 split when it comes to public opinion, but then again it's an election year so if the politicians think it's in their benefit... you know how it goes, refer to my signature and all that. Almost all the political parties went to election with promises to not join NATO, and now that we're tested, having just two months ago declared that we won't be bullied, they're folding immediately.

No offence taken, and I do hope you don't take offence at my views either. I feel that Sweden in NATO would be a disgustingly hypocritical thing considering what our past stances are/have been.

I like where your heads at, sound like a great plan that can't go wrong, noone would expect it, least of all Swedes. That unity will last until Zelensky asks for help to rebuild, then it won't be as attractive anymore, the only ones that are happy with the current direction are the arms companies.

The US would spend the most on military with or without NATO, it means nothing. The US deploying to Sweden if we were part of NATO would be dependent on the political will of the country, the next Trump would definetly not act. The EU's military response is as much of an assurance as is NATO's. The world is the same as it has been in 2014, the only thing that has really changed is the view of Russian military competency for anyone that has been following the war, and some shock at the inhumanity of Russians, and astonishment that any Ukrainian can walk like a normal human being with balls that size. List of treaties unsigned or unratified by the United States - Wikipedia The only country in the world that hasn't ratified the Convention of Childrens Rights... So what you're saying is that Sweden should defund the US? I like it, and I wholeheartedly agree. Edit; Also they don't recognize the ICC.

I never claimed we were successful or good at it! Sillyness aside, our diplomats are semi-professional, I assume, the limp-wristedness from our politicians might be infectious though.

We stopped selling to the US when they invaded Vietnam, so goes both ways, then again our politicians after Palme lacks any kind of determination and guts. Selling iron to the Nazis was done to ensure that we didn't get invaded more than to make money.

The exact same promise already exists among EU countries, and each NATO country decides for itself how it would help Sweden incase of invasion, no one is obligated to send boots on the ground. But if we are in NATO we definetly become a target for strikes, even more so if we were to have nukes. We're not neutral, we're unaligned, we are definetly taking stances left and right, and it's the only position that we actually can afford. Not to mention that we would be able to continue to be a mediator with other countries like we have been historically. If we are to have any kind of alliance it should be a Nordic one, among equals.

Oh, not internationally, but locally. There are no dissenting opinions being put forward in a serious manner, but alot of mainstream and social media are trying to make a rushed decision here. The fact that the vast majority of people in Sweden vote for political parties that have been firmly anti-NATO has been changing their tune, despite the populace actually voting them in. At the very least we need to have an informed vote about it, similar to joining the EU, but it's hard for people to build informed opinions if nay-sayers are actively being screamed down. I really look forward to having the US decide wether or not Sweden can leave NATO if joining means that the voters flock to an Anti-NATO option, and I'm really looking forward to joining such bastions of democracy like Hungary, Albania and Turkey. Professor Linus Hagström was very critical of joining NATO back in 2015, still is, and he was raked for it.

I honestly don't want to join NATO, even less when there is no acceptance for dissenting opinions about it, you're automagically an anti-American onahole for Russia and Putin.

Ah... great... who needs sleep anyway?

I don't know how the education works over there, but here you had two different ways to start the road to become one, Natural Sciences programme and Electrical worker programme, we had exactly 0 female students in the electrical worker programme, but there were quite a few girls that went the Natural Science route and later became EE's.

I wouldn't be surprised if there was some Aralsk-7 like facility in Mongolia built by the Soviets, and the US financing a cleanup operation like they are with Aralsk-7.

This is awesome if it's true, and that twitter thread is gold

I don't mind paying 30% taxes, but I don't like waiting until 3.5 months for an X-Ray, 4 months for an orthopedic specialist and I've got a waiting time for 2025 for different specialist.

I miss my 21" CRT

Hard pass on NATO. Had USA not invoked article 5 on 9/11 I might've had a different view.