Orogun01

You really underestimate the power of guerrilla warfare, while your point still stands the could cripple the Southern Lands economically (Although I doubt they had the presence of mind to stick to guerrilla tactics)

I hope you aren't asserting that anyone here advocate otherwise... as oppose to getting annoyed at usual crowd that get excited by such vids, building a mountain from a mice.. Also I remember a great office, fun team, great benefits (we even company vacations out of the country), breaks air conditioning, car pool at night, advancement opportunities etc... It certainly beats working alone,outside in the heat, with potential danger, with many loud mouth jerks whose first instinct is to claim ignorance or plain out lie to avoid a fine (using the same excuses), maybe get featured on camera (hopefully you are not camera shy), likely get dragged to court few times, and get less than half the pay... Don't you think that sometimes it is easier to be polite and decent? ( Btw, I brought that example only because I thought that sharp one will be more familiar with white color jobs, I can give less savory one I had to go through to finance uni.) So you had it easy as a customer service, that certainly isn't true for everyone and certainly not true of people who have to face angry customer face to face. But if your point is to make excuses as to why cops can be allowed to be rude since their job is hard then I would point out that there is no reason to for them to make their job harder by taking an antagonistic stance. When a customer comes to you with a problem the proper course of action is to work together so that you can solve their problem to the best of their satisfaction. While there are certainly customers that are a handful you shouldn't take it out on the next one. Cops really have no excuse for ****ing up their job royally other than incompetence and if their Department allows it then it is a big problem. I certainly get pissed that my tax dollars are going to fund thugs that will harass me, it's like school all over again except the bully taking my lunch money now has a gun and a badge.

And I remember that I couldn't tell a customer to **** off or else they will call for my supervisor/manager whom would surely fire me. I think that customer service would be more hostile towards the customer were there no consequences.

Found out that Nikita (Alberta Watson) is dead. Bit sad.

Sensible is not making a fuss over every offense, I don't sensible solutions work with the mentally ill. Quite frankly, I'm still wishing that the world will collectively tell these people to go **** themselves so we can regain some semblance of sanity where not everything has to be looked through the lens of an alternative value system. But every time they do this more people back down due to the pressure and lend their value system more credence, yet their every victory has the taint of the means they used to achieve it. Now I can't stop making everything political, they make gender and sexual orientation as divisive as left and right wing politics are. These people should not be listened to, they should just be ignored. Edit: not by us mind you, but by the people they are trying to bully into changing.

I still haven't gotten to defiance Bay, i'm hoping the story will pick up from there as so far I haven't really been drawn by anything.

I wonder if they would first claim that it is safe to consume.

The man is paid to make Monsanto look good, not drinking it and getting angry plus walking out doesn't look good. Of course he could just be bad at his job, and Monsanto really just made and passed that bill that safeguards them against repercussions due to ****ing everyone just as a precaution. Doesn't mean that they will **** up everyone, just that they're concerned they might. Just like a Captain that seems nervous when he forces everyone to take swimming lessons.

I was playing PoE but then I decided to redo my character and start from the beginning and then realize that the appearance I chose and the portrait don't match. Now I'm in Photoshop doing a custom portrait of my next character who looks a lot like Ragnar the Red, except that he's an elf...a Pale elf.

Sound familiar? The Frankfurt school has been a part of GG forays into the beginnings of Cultural Marxism and how hipsters seem to follow its trend. But really it's all tangentially related to the main problem of corruption and the ideological takeover of indie development. Interesting article though

I don't understand why people like escargot.

So far Hispanic characters in Video Games have generally speaking no depth besides an accent, it generally means nothing to me other than needing subtitles. My point is that storytelling in games is still very underdeveloped they haven't nailed down presentation yet. It is difficult to get any character depth and to add themes in a meaningful way that it is congruent with gameplay mechanics. So it makes no difference to me whether I play as white cardboard cut out or a black cardboard cut out, I think that's a graver issue that impedes any meaningful representation that minorities might hope to have. On the other hand, maybe I prefer to play as white guy and my choice shouldn't be demonized by zealots. The reality is that the snow white people that claim to want inclusivity have **** all in depth knowledge of other cultures and just hold to the notion that if it isn't white its nice. They say they want inclusivity but for all they know we already have it as games could be realistically depicting minorities and they would still complain because they don't like the reality. Any meaningful change will come from growth of and within the industry and the facilitation of game production and creating better tools (another grave issue that impedes any meaningful representation) as it will naturally become a more diverse industry. Maybe then we won't have to tolerate the yelps of white guilt from whiny entitled snots whom want things to change but don't contribute any action towards it or worse, fight against it.

I think they just decided that paying lip service was better than being confrontational, a lot of people just make that one tiny change just to get them off their back. Quite frankly I don't think that Obsidian cares about political views as much as having good quality, so when they do inclusive things is because they thought it was a good idea. Which is probably why Obsidian's gay characters in NV are liked and Bio's pandering is torn down, as the latter is a very see through attempt. Well you may see the changes as insignificant but I think for minority groups they matter. For example in PoE we see African American races that have been very well received. Well, as the one from a minority group I can tell you that no self respecting human being likes lip service or pandering. Its like being given scraps from the table after asking to have a seat. Diversity in RPGs works because it lets players craft their character's background to suit their likes, but I don't expect them to be an in depth story about race, race relations and politics. Quite frankly, if someone is so immature that they can't play a game or relate to a character because of skin color then it's their loss. I pity anyone that hasn't played Portal just because of a female main character. So it's a moot point to dwell on race, to try and force people to write stories of and from an ethnic group that isn't theirs and that they have no appreciation for. All just because some believe that its somehow moral to push false equality onto others. @Barothmuk: That's the same Josh Swayer that defended Obsidian's use of rape in Fallout New Vegas.

I think they just decided that paying lip service was better than being confrontational, a lot of people just make that one tiny change just to get them off their back. Quite frankly I don't think that Obsidian cares about political views as much as having good quality, so when they do inclusive things is because they thought it was a good idea. Which is probably why Obsidian's gay characters in NV are liked and Bio's pandering is torn down, as the latter is a very see through attempt.

So the case regarding Prince Andrew is just a hoax?

Have a feeling it will sell pretty well regardless. Hype, perhaps. Nope, it's selling terribly.

Its normal to become emotionally numb when overwhelmed, the best thing might be to just accept the possible outcomes and spare oneself the anxiety. It is just that there isn't much anyone can do in those sort of situation. Hope they will pull through and you as well.

So a dictator then?

Then they should really raise some hell to get rappers to stop saying it and ganstas, maybe they could get Al Sharpton on board. But if they're the kind that just gets offended when its non-black that say then that **** is racist

Well, since we seem to have gone down industrial lane.

The accusation that games cause violent refers to violent acts such as shootings, but with sexism is a bit harder to prove/disprove and because its more widespread due to the fact most consider it harmless, crusaders have all the elements to support their idea that media causes sexism. Although, they can't really prove it.

i'm sick

Sure, here you go http://youtu.be/4ZPSrwedvsg?t=22m8s Is only a rare occurrence because Tropes vs Women has not delivered on all those videos that where promised, despite having 2 years since they were first uploaded (coincidentally that's accurate to the date) Tropes vs Women has only released 7 videos. Throughout the whole video she disingenuously makes claims as to what you can do to women and then disclaim that these mechanics are not exclusive to just female NPCs. The argument is set up in such a way that makes it seem that gamers are meant or forced to kill and torment women and then it has a small disclaimer explaining how the game actually works after having shown a lot of footage of PC killing female NPCs. It is intellectually dishonest. I will key in a few words of your statement, emergent, intent, thoughtlessness. What you're saying makes sense but the problem comes from the cultural lens and subjective interpretation. I have no soft way to put it, the interpretation of sandbox mechanics as misogynistic is ****ing insane. It asks to assume the position of an insane person and treats it like that is the norm. To put in an example; if an insane woman started complaining about the fact her daughter's doll can be used as an adult toy and then decides to try sue the toy company for what is clearly "emergent" uses of their toy, claiming they "intended" it because the toy does not prevent this usage and that they are "thoughtless". Any reasonable person would tell that crazy lady to **** off. My point is that makers shouldn't be held accountable for the ways that insane people interpret or use their work. (sorry about all the unpleasant imagery) How about consumer intent then? Extreme liberals will have you believe that gender is a social construct and it bears no consequence on will(unless we're talking about that "Toxic masculinity") But gender differences do create taste differences, which explain how some genres become gendered. Brad Wardell has become a notorious example http://wiki.gamergate.me/index.php?title=Brad_Wardell#cite_note-1 There is the scandal of judges having financial ties to games that they judge at the IGF https://archive.today/04Qsh Whoa, way to miss the point. The cow example was meant to point out how industry make half measures to deal with negative public opinion, in that case humane treatment of cows to cater to people who like meat but are very sensitive about animal abuse. Which was meant to tie into the larger point of game publishers making half measures but still sticking to what they do. It isn't sheltering or pandering so much as selling a house to a convicted pedophile is. While it is disturbing, it also legal (which shouldn't be IMO, not just the possession or distribution but mainly the manufacture) If you believe the extreme that pedophile should be executed even when they haven't had any sexual relations with children then there isn't any room for compromise. But as a reasonable person I understand that free speech will support some expressions that I find negative. Yet the legality of it isn't my expertise or burden and I try not to impose my morals on others. As to how it discredits GG, it would be the same as saying that because you live in the same neighborhood as a pedophile then you must support him/her as you haven't kicked him out. I didn't agree to anything and I'm concerned that you want to carry this conversation both ways. The community just provided the links to forum posts made by known SJW activist on which they claimed to have engaged in said acts. I will however agree that two wrongs don't make a right but the association of 8chan as larger website with /gg/ as a board is a false equivalency. Well, you need to understand that developers suffer because games journalism decides to rip their games a new one on account of being misogynistic or not having PoC or women and then for not having the right ones. Games scores do affect sales and they have a hierarchical effect where investors get scared, stock drops, publisher puts pressure on both journalists and developers. But publishers and journalist have a strained relationship in which they depend on each other even when they sometimes loathe each other. Developers on the other hand are more reliant on publishers so they're more vulnerable.

She has made claims about how the developers intended something to be interpreted, not how it is perceived through a wider cultural lens. Some which accuse the developer of promoting violence against women(being misogynistic). Other times its the disingenuous claim that women are underrepresented or relegated to secondary roles on what are clearly male driven stories. The analogy of complaining about how men are represented in romance novels and films has been used to contrast this point. Maybe it was, but the claim that this portion of the game was designed to derive perverse pleasure was hers and from her mouth. Hyperbole isn't known for its accuracy, but point taken. There is still damage done by SJWs yet not to the same extent or level, so I would just say that is because I disagree with them. They have damaged and ended careers as well as swindled people from their money and damaged the relationship between consumer and the industry. When the opposition ask for a termination of a successful business model you don't give them what they want. You make a half assed show of solidarity that makes it seem like you care. You know, just like now they treat cows humanely before they kill them because people don't want to feel guilty about eating them. Actually I visit 8chan frequently, child porn isn't allowed. What is found there in droves is child models posing and dancing in the same sexualized way that seems to be the standard of the adult fashion industry. Cynically I don't think the SJW do care that much about it other than the fact they can use it to demonize GG, which is why you're mentioning. Also, the info I've gotten has been from interviews of game developers who speak of how SJW have attacked them or made them feel threatened within the industry. BTW, I do know of SJWs sheltering child porn enthusiasts and people who were into bestiality, it was a hot topic a while back on 8chan.

That said, 300 is more akin to high-budget AAA titles, which remain impervious to being ran out from the industry by the evil SJWs. (Also, propaganda issues aside, 300's handling of its historical subject matter is pretty much objectively repugnant, but that's neither here or there.) Then why does she always assumes that the authorial intent is to be misogynistic? I'm thinking of her review of Hitman Absolution where she went out of her way to kill and pose strippers so as to make it seem like the player was supposed to derive a perverse pleasure from it. I suppose that you believe the KKK when they say that they aren't anti black, that they're just pro white. SJW might rave on about equality and positive rolemodels but their actions speak to their actual nature. I agree with the second point about 300, but when Ubisoft has Saarkeesian speak on a conference you know how influential the SJWs are in promoting their agenda. Which only becomes a problem because implementation and accuracy. (They have bad data and direct lynch mobs) I find myself dumbfounded when I hear people who dislike GG speak in the defense of SJWs, because I see how similar they are.