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I'm biased towards anyone accusing a game of being misogynistic specially GTA, its kind like saying that water is wet. But feminists (they should really come up with a better term to split the crazy ones from the rest) still believe that if you nag about something for long enough a man will come and fix it. Girrrlll power!
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No they would be mentally unbalanced and would be need to be placed in an asylum Or they could go into the army and become heroes.
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http://uk.gamespot.com/news/ea-denies-dead-space-series-cancellation-6404823 So I wouldn't go to say anything sure about their sale targets. https://twitter.com/Monkey_Pants/status/308954581465980930 Someone should put EA to rest due to poor sales.
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:sigh: gringos- 526 replies
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Using DreamScene to have cancer awareness Olivia as my desktop is the best idea I had in while.- 526 replies
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Social constructs are irrelevant outside of systems that operate outside those constructs, I think that's unlikely that morality can directly affect reality as far as we know. To anyone operating outside morality they are irrelevant.
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You can judge morality by intent, actions, or ideology. Any of those only matter if you think it matters because morality is a social construct, what matters in the story of Satan is his intent because angels have no apparent free will.
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Paedophilia, by definition, is not consensual. Using your analogy - which is nonetheless interesting - a gay rapist is still just a rapist. By legal definition even if it is consensual it is not recognized by the court, children are not able to make informed decisions since their concept of sexuality is still a work in progress. But statutory rape is a different matter since teenagers do have a concept of what sex is and have practiced, they're even allowed with the consent of their caretaker to marry. I'm kind of inclined to split hairs here and make sure we distinguish hebephilia from pedophilia. As far as it being a sexual inclination, I believe it to be so in the same way that bestiality and biastophilia are sexual inclinations that disregard consent and are therefore immoral and illegal. @Rosbjerg: One way that I rationalized some of the behavior that comes out from abuse is that its a self fulling prophecy on the part of the abuser. But often times the cognitive model in a mind damaged from either biological or environmental factors (excluding abuse) rationalizes in ways that are so far removed from what the norm is that to act on them would be considered evil.
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Just start reading the post if you brain goes WTF then its Volo
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I actually consider Demon's Souls to be harder than Dark Souls because of the way the levels were structured. Although you could always spam heal with grass on Demon's Souls which I didn't like.
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Thanks for clarifying. On a related note I now have a craving for wasabi plugged rabbit.
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Specifically for the idea that people fill in the assumptions that they don't know with a narrative that they believe is true, and have a tendency to do so with great conviction because, well, if it wasn't the correct conclusion then I would have concluded something else. I find it interesting that the comedian felt the same way regarding rape jokes, although upon looking at it from a different perspective (the assumptions that people make about his profession which are so obviously true), he had a minor bout with some cognitive dissonance and realized that because he fills in those blanks and assumes them to be true, perhaps he is mistaken. So let me see if I get your point, you're talking about a self fulling prophecy that because some fans feel that DA2 was bad and ME3 was bad then DA:I will be bad?
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Yeah I liked it. I actually stumbled upon it today kind of by random chance. I'm certainly someone that has done what he pointed out, and it's kind of an interesting reflection on how our experiences shape different perspectives as well as responses. Not that I didn't enjoy it, because I did and comedy is one of my interests. But how is it related to DA, or are you prepping us for Patton Oswald being the VA of a romanceable dwarf? Cause i'd buy that.
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This one made me laugh: "Peace Prize: Alexander Lukashenko, president of Belarus, for making it illegal to applaud in public, and to the Belarus State Police, for arresting a one-armed man for applauding."
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Almost a quarter of men 'admit to rape in parts of Asia'
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There are two major theories regarding paraphilias (biastophilia being one of them) one which advocates that environmental factors are the major cause and the other which focuses on a courtship model which categorizes paraphilias regarding a deficiency on one of the stages of courtship. Not really related to my point but just felt like it might be relevant. I think that attempting to find an absolute reason for anything that its highly subjective is ultimately a meaningless pursuit, so the effort should not be focused on finding and categorizing the different causes but rather a common element. In the case of rape the only one I can think of is the sexual element, regarding motives I can defer to any of the theories I previously mentioned to point out psychological issues that would lead to violent behavior. I believe that the motives for rape can be divided into either being purely sexual or because violence; but that rape as an act of violence requires a certain degree of sexual inclination. I then choose to see rape as a sexual act because it requires some degree of attraction. Though I'm aware that it can be performed with objects as well, I attribute that more to a repressed personality trait on the part of the rapist. It is better to be clear, specially when talking about something that could be misconstrued as being supportive of negative behavior. My particular concern is closer to it being a hate crime (a concept that I dislike) so what would be relevant in your example would not be the whether the perpetrator wanted to rape the victim but rather why did they target the victim in the first place. I don't think that the motivation changes the crime ultimately it sets a bad precedent as well being too subjective to base a verdict on. -
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Intent can and does play a significant role in how crimes are prosecuted, and the best example is being charged with attempted murder. That's carries a considerable longer sentence than aggravated battery. In the case of attempted murder it is the intent of the individual that is paramount. The same distinction applies after a fashion with the difference between premeditated murder and a murder committed as an act of passion. Intent does matter. The selection of the means to achieve a goal are secondary to the goal itself. Again, with attempted murder it does not matter which weapon the perpetrator chose. But in the case of rape the goal is not the crime but the act itself its the crime, or to follow with your analogy it would be as you were being prosecuted because of your choice of weapon. I'm not saying that rapists shouldn't be prosecuted for their intent aside from their crime, but that intent and the crime are separate entities and should be treated as such. Good post btw. -
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In that context, a sexual assault or a physical assault against a woman can simply seen as the choice of which tool the perpetrator uses to achieve the goal of establishing power over his victim. I know I said I wasn't going to say anything more on this topic but you have eloquently posted what I was trying to explain through several posts, good one And why couldn't you just have said that without posting so many links? -
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Conversely, let's look at it from the sense of what the desired goal is. I can define a goal - let's say house demolition. Then I select a tool to accomplish that. I can use dynamite, a wrecking ball, an M1 Abrams, a horde of termites, some really hungry beavers, or a demolition crew. No matter what tool I choose the goal is the same. Destroy the house. The tool I choose is simply the means to that end. In that context, a sexual assault or a physical assault against a woman can simply seen as the choice of which tool the perpetrator uses to achieve the goal of establishing power over his victim. The tool does not define the goal; rather the goal establishes which tools are suitable to achieve that goal. The goal remains the same, only the tool changes. But we don't prosecute for what an individual hoped to achieve but for what they did. Having a goal is not incompatible with favoring a means to achieve that goal, that's the difference between those who hope to achieve a peaceful revolution and those who clamor for blood under the guise of change. There is probably a reason why they chose to commit the act that's less related to their goals and more to their character. -
I guess they're retconning a lot of the stuff from the first 2 games.
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A knife is a versatile tool, it's a weapon, a kitchen utensil, a handyman's tool...ect,ect. But what it does its to cut and pierce, in that same way that rape is a sexual act which can be used for a variety of purposes. Yet the intended use does not change the nature of the act, which depending on the context requires some degree of appeal to the perpetrator. Whether it be physical attraction, power play or hatred, it doesn't change the fact that rape can only be sexual (unless you ask some feminists what they think) So motives for sex violence appear to me as mere excuses for performing or understanding what its a sexual act. -
Does the game follows the exploits of Big Boss after the original MG?
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Humans are social creatures with a penchant for categorization and because we tend to look to ourselves as the ultimate guiding principle; morally speaking that we are good, then evil arises from a necessity to separate ourselves from some external element. If you simplify all human motives as derivatives from our survival instinct and their clashing with social constructs then it becomes easier to understand fringe elements such as cases of extreme evil. As such you can look at evil as merely a rejection of philosophies which are incompatible with existing schema.
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Basically yeah. GTA basically created a genre, GTA3 specifically, and that genre became synonymous with with GTA, and thus GTA became a well known brand name and achieved mythical status. A status not necessarily undeserved, mind you, as I thought all their games were quite good with the exception of GTA4 (can't speak for GTA5 since I haven't played it). It's the same thing with CoD or Halo. Once the franchise gains enough mainstream popularity, it reaches critical mass, then it become a self-sustaining hype machine. At that point, it almost doesn't matter if future titles are good or not, as once the hype machine is in full effect it's very difficult to derail, whether from external or internal forces. Usually once a game series catches fire like that and becomes a popular trend, the franchise will keep raking it in until the trend burns itself out and people move on to the next thing. I would say that Shenmue created the genre and GTA3 just made it about violence. Still I guess the GTA, the COD, and the Halos can be proof of separation between discerning gamers and casual ones, so I'm not so angry about them being successful (though I do get a bit mad when someone credits them with innovation, as is the case in point ) In the end its just evidence of the industry's growth and of how badly managed it is, capitalist nowadays expect opportunities to come to their door, knock, wait for them to answer and then do all the work. My mistake, but GTA3 popularized the genre anyway. Point is GTA was the franchise that became synonymous with the genre, to the point where other games in the genre are commonly known as GTA clones. Once a franchise becomes synonymous with a genre, such as GTA with sandbox, or CoD with modern military FPS, or Diablo with loot em' ups, it's nearly impossible for another franchise in the same genre to take over the top spot, regardless of which franchise is actually better (which is subjective anyway). It would take a massively terrible game to derail the hype machine, and even then, the hype machine may keep functioning on pure hype and brand recognition. I don't think that's its so cut an clear, advertisement for games have taken the route of brand association. One recent example was for Farcry, it was a quote "it's like Skyrim with guns". If you can associate your brand with another more successful one you have a greater chance of both getting your game financed and selling afterward. Sad really.
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Almost a quarter of men 'admit to rape in parts of Asia'
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Yes those are all ways that people exert power over someone but those don't apply to power over women in the context of this discussion and why men rape women. I'm having a radical thought here, what if men rape women cause they're horny? -
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You're probably the only one that noticed.- 526 replies
