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Yes, it's definately easier and bigger thesedays especially since pretty much everyone who follows the news knows few of the sites that allow you to download stuff. There's way more people playing computer/console games if you compare it to the late 90's But even back in the day it only took one or two guys to get the games and they had a bloody business running.

It's a fact! Check the box office numbers! This whole courtroom is out of order! Objection your honour!!

Just saying, there's a huge support for Fallout by it's fans as well. FACT: I doubt you read and understand multiple languages and know exactly what the "public's" opinion about FO series was. And as I said on some other post of mine Fallout series suffered heavily from the rampant piracy that really started to show it's ugly head. There was no DRM nor multiplayer to "force" kids actually to buy the game. True, this is based on my own experience in small town, but I bet kids had CD-R drives elsewhere as well... Could you even play DS as multiplayer with a pirated version? And how about giving some actual FACTS about the sales instead of just going "FACT". All I found was some random site that claimed DS1 sold 1,7 million units, never heard of the site before. So I personally don't consider that all that reliable as a source. Both games have their own built fanbases. Never claimed DS didn't have a fanbase, just because game sells X number of copies doesn't mean the fanbase will be all that active and ready to buy a sequel by some other company. This goes for both Fallout and DS. It's pretty hard to compare fanbases by the sheer amount of sold copies 5-15 years ago, since people who played those games back in the day move on with their lives, start families etc. The whole argument is pretty ******** ridicilous since there's no way anyone can really give any actual info on the fanbases of either game series. Unless you go and monitor every damn fan site and see how many different people post on those monthly. And even after that you still got all those fans who don't go on forums to shoot **** and are "dormant" just waiting....

Didn't they purchase some art assets and not the actual title?

Yea, and Fallout never had any mods / total conversions etc. come out... Oh wait they did have those and people are still making them.

Like with everything in life, there sure was luck involved. The timing etc. were in their favour. It would have been a completely different story for BioWare without Interplay and the D&D licence. Not saying it was the only thing that made BioWare succesfull, but it did play out a role in it. Talented people would have made it anyways, but the BioWare we know today could be making RTS games instead of rpgs and might not be as succesfull as they are. Maybe designers did something wrong or maybe they didn't, in either case it's pretty stupid to claim the story and characters are shallow if your opinion is based on 5-10% of the game.

Morgoth you didn't even make it out of Act 1 / Prologue and yet you are claiming how it's a shallow game? Did Volourn hack your account since this reminds me soo much of Volourn and AP. The story doesn't really get going until after the Rajani fight, but yeah whatever... Crytek makes shooters, gorgeous looking shooters. There's a way bigger market for those than there are for story based roleplaying games. BioWare started small, sure. Then they "got lucky" and got to use Interplay's licence for AD&D and with Black Isle pretty much resurrected crpgs. Without Interplay and their licence, who knows what BioWare would be today.

Exactly. Their own fanbase + (most of) Fallout fans is quite a lot of potential sales. And what comes to the sales of original Fallouts, those games came out during the time that piracy was pretty damn huge (at least in Finland) and the games didn't have multiplayer (that sometimes forced pirates to actually buy their games). I knew about 20 people from my school alone who had pirated copies of both of the Fallout games and this was in a small town of 5k people. Sales figures from 10-15 years ago just don't tell the whole truth... (not that it does present day either)

Picked up Star Wars: Empire at War from Steam. Quite nice, for the few euros I spent Now if I could only force myself to finish L.A Noire....

If the million + expected sales on that Square Enix executives profile is/was accurate I don't really think its going to be that disappointing. Its still a very managable and actually low goal over three plattforms. Sorta depends on how fast they were planning on reaching that million sold games. It's obvious they can't reach that goal in just few weeks, it's going to take months and some sales to reach that goal. I would imagine the Japanese sales will be higher than on your normal western rpg since Square Enix is the publisher which will help them reach that number.

If you are in europe you can buy any game for less money by ordering from uk stores. Yep, shipping takes time though which I why I prefer the tax free shops from

I'll believe it when they actually release the game.

38 euros for 30 hours of fun (so far). I would call that a ******* good deal. I usually dislike h&s / action rpgs because the combat is boring clickfest. Not the case with DS3, hc and co-op was pretty intense from time to time

Never said you are anti-Obsidian. Just find your hatred for some of their games silly.

DS3 team wasn't that big. They had both FNV ( + dlcs) and DS3 in development at the same time. Based on the credits I'd say the team was about 40-50 people (cba to count the exact number).

Will the blog at some point reveal the identity of funcroc?

They do use 2D even on AAA games. Can't check right now, but I'm fairly certain I saw few 2D artists on DS3 credits.

Did you play it already Voli? How did ya like it? Codex hates everything, though I'm fairly certain I saw bunch of people from Codex that liked the game. I'm predicting that Volo gives the game 2 hours and after that goes on rampage and claims DS3 is the worst game ever made comes up with some "funny" nickname for it and bashes the game as much he can. Naturally he reads all the story elements from some wiki and based on that he is the expert on the game (in his own mind...) much like with Alpha Protocol Or he might actually like it.

And I still can't understand how with your logic a game is a poor wannabe of ME if it shares one damn feature (and even from that feature missing for example the good/paragon / ***hole options) out of many features while they both are otherwise totally diffent games and from whole different sub-genres of crpgs. And unless I'm completely remembering this wrong, Brian Mitsoda had the conversation wheel system up and running for Alpha Protocol before anything about such feature was ever even mentioned by BioWare.

Also a smaller team on the game if you compare it to Fallout: New Vegas, Alpha Protocol etc.

That commercial was actually funny, because the beginning is so bad. Good commercials make you laugh and you remember them. How many of you actually remember any of the generic game ads that normally run on TV? Don't think I saw any commercials / magazine ads for DS3 in Finland.

I played the first two games and quite liked them. No way should this game be reviewed or judged as anything other than a DS game that's how it's marketed and that's the tool they used to sucker people into buying it. Having said that, if it was a GOOD game in its own right I really wouldn't care. It would be foolish to dislike a game just because of what it isn't instead of what it is. 7 hours for a single player RPG is absolutely pathetic no matter how you look at it and especially one with a camera that does its level best to hinder you every single step of the way. People who applaud games like this deserve absolutely everything they get. In a few years they'll be saying how glad they are that they paid 70 dollars for DS4 and how they enjoyed the full 60 minutes entertainment they got from it and how they can't understand what people are complaining about. I seriously don't know how you can finish the game in just 7 hours. That being said, I'm fairly certain Obsidian never claimed that DS3 would play out just the way the old games did.. They even released a demo for people to see and test it before buying it....

So far only played with Katarina once on sp and now 2nd time hc co-op.

A good list. The answer to your question is no, it's not a complete list. It appears to be all of the static items and a few of the random ones. Missing at least a helmet for Anjali. Can't remember the name, but it dropped from the Archons in Mournweald on hardcore after some grinding.

"I could go on and on and on but in resume: this is a poor Diablo clone and a poor ME/DA wannabe," I guess my eyes are tricking me.