Raven Darkholme

Made my day.^^

Before 13 high Int is not that useful, 10 is enough. I have it almost maxed or even maxed in my Trio party and even though it's still plenty of stat points the Int is just not that big of a deal. As to scrolls I never feel the need of them, even with kana in my Trio party who has high lore, I barely ever touch them, they are powerful, but also super cheesy, personal playstyles I guess.^^

Good advice, but why Lore? I never use Lore.,^^

When you play in potd and you have only 2 camping supplies it becomes very tedious and time consuming to return to town if you want to rest often. There's also an achivement which requires less than 10 rests over the entire game. Also I personally hate to rest if I don't need to rest for resetting per rest spells/items.

Idk I prefer the potions I never have the luxury of spending a talent on something that can be done with a potion.^^ But then again I don't play with full parties so I have to spend my talents slightly more careful.

Nah, engagement is ****.

Sorry, was not aware @jojobo: yes healing remains, you can heal yourself from Red to full in 2-3 fights. Don't be sorry mate, your post makes even more people aware of it. Don't think EVERYONE except you knew it.^^

Hahahaha. (Sorry for spam :D)

Yep, that has been done by a lot of people for quite some time now and is super useful. You can avoid resting with that and for a paladin that's level 13 there is no single reason to dump con and max int. :D

Can't exactly remeber the number but a guy had his max hit was linked in his signature and it wasa either a 700+ or even a 1700+. Rogue has obviously the highest max hit (guy used a rogue, too) idk why you say barbarian, tho?

pre 2.0? Were there even immunities to prone in pre 2.0? Also TCS is not that hard you skip whatever you want, try Ultimate with those strats

Could you perhaps help me out with a pally-tank build for Pallegina with the spread MaxQuest suggested earlier (18/16/4/13/20/10) or even a different spread? I mean talent and ability-wise. as there is sooo much to choose from . For instance, is it worth going for wrath of the five suns as tank? 10 RES is not a tank. You can play as Boroer suggested (post above me) with those stats. In a full party stats matter less anyway. If you want to go full tank just go wit the stat distribution I posted earlier in this thread and for talents take all the defensive ones that boost deflection first, thern go wit the ones that boost your other def stats. As for abilities you can go: FoD (or LoH if you hate potions), Zealous Focus, Lib Exhortation, Aegis of Loyalty, Righteous Soul, Sacred Immolation. Be sure to respec for max InT on SA.

This is funny, MaxQuest prefers ciphers, Boroer Chanters, I love them both on the same level, but most of all I love pallies.^^

You just named a reason why it's ok too use early upgrade materials without holding back.

If you're level 6 Ectopsychic Echo is your friend and killer of all foes. As to enchanting, upgrade your stronghold so you have Botanic Garden and Curio Shop, buy your gems in Defiance Bay and you can upgrade freely.

I meant for pala since the link for paladin build showed fire godlike.

Allright, thanks for the input. I guess I'll stick to the composition as it is. Do you have a better suggestion for stat allocation and build for pallytank? I thought this was as tanky as it got, even if reflex gets gimped somewhat. Is there a way to take less damage with a different build? I agree completely on the tediousness of resting, which is why I wondered if I was doing it inefficiently. I wasn't aware of the buckler, I mostly skimmed through the videos as they are a tad slow and there are so many. I'll go check if I can find it now. Are large shields generally bad, even if my tanks have low dmg output anyway? Fire godlike is crap, take Wild Orlan. You don't need 20 Int before level 13 you can even dump it before 13. I always max Per and Res, dump dex and Int, put whatevers left in Mi and Con. At level 13 you exchange Int for Con, so you dump Con, heal up after fights with ital essence potions (before fight stops), and obviously the reason for this is Sacrd Immolation. You ask whether damage output matters for a "tank" but there is always enough stat points to have plenty of per and the outworn buckler is much better than any large shield cuz it also buffs the defense of your party. You said in videos you always only see endgear, if it's not too tedious for you you can watch my solo and trio runs, where you always see the gear from the start: and

I never play with priest.^^

SO, how long did it take?^^ And where did you get those animated weapons.

same. YOu can't dump dex on gunners but 10 is completely fine. Then again those need max per missing is bad with slow attack speed.

Just use Alacrity potion.

So you're saying bounties are even more late game than dragons? But thanks for confirming my point while denying it. :D I'll gladly repeat myself and try to say it more clearly this time. Per has more IMPACT than dex. It doesn't matter whether you can do with less in the lategame, just cause you have gained more ACC through leveling. This is MUCH more true for dex, since you have gained durgan refined among other things. But ACC is so important because of hit and miss. And as your example with dragons shows this is not only so in lowlevel. Soloing is a much better example than having a party and being buffed by a priest, let's try to remember we wanted to see the impact a single stat has and that's much easier to see if less factors blur the impact of our stat choice.

The last sentence confuses me. I can only fulfill your powergaming perspective by soloing with a priest? :D

Guys... Ofc you can "get away" with a lot of things in this game. If you wanna see how valuable Per is compared to Dex, just do the following challenge: Create a paladin and start a new game. Kill Calisca before you do any fights, even the wolves. Kill the wolves and Glanfarthans who ambush you all solo. Do this a) with a paladin that has 3 dex and maxed per b) same guyx but maxed dex and 3 per Tell me how it goes.

CHars with low per are a waste period, tank or healer don't matter. Hybrid all day.