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ahhhh ofcourse. Tnx

Looks like a decent game, nothing spectacular but overall OK. Looking forward to it. Btw does anyone know who is voicing Jayne? Very familiar but I can't pinpoint it.

So you`re basically saying that (jsut our) ends justify the means in a thread about talibani unacceptable means towards their end? I find this killings a crime and condemable but I don`t allow for their use in lowering our standard of behaviour. Its not ok to stoop to the oposition level just because theyre there. Especially cos we have an option not to and are allegedly superior by allways pursuing that option. The west doesnt get this conflict and thats why we`re doomed to fail. That fact beautifully demonstrated in this thread where people compare the war there with a nation state total war like WW2 or NI or Wales insurgency. We`re simply unable to grasp it and still try to force round peggs into square holes. We flap around with words "enemies of democracy" and the like where people there are still in tribal era. Short of a cultural genocide ove 2-3 generations we wont achieved our high flying goals or even come close to them. That had to be obvious even before the invasion.

I find it hillarious that out of all the dangerous dangerous men held at guantanamo they only managed to sentance bin ladens chef and driver the other day. Its a good thing they`re there, safeguarding the civilized world from people like osamas dry cleaner who would put too much starch on our clothes, the filthy terrorist. I mean do me sideways and call me nancy, a chef/driver. Its tragicomical.

Saw Kick-ass the other day... could barely finish watching it. So bad. I still have a bad taste in my mouth. Cage showcasing that his bad judgment transcends his financial affairs into choosing scripts aswel lol. Watched The Ghost Writer after that. Very impressed. Polanski delevered yet again and Ewan was very good. And I allways knew there was something fishy about tony b.

Its funny that out of all the concrete facts and reports on the appauling state of affairs in Afghanistan from wikileaks the propaganda machine... I mean mainstream media... got hung up on speculation about Pakistan... Under the line the situation seems like a dejavu of the last years of the soviet presence... and the modus operandi to get out of that debacke is about the same and about as effective awell. Russians must be laughing their arses off. Saying that, Pakistanis would be idiots not to play both sides. They know that in a year or so the last nato chopper will lift off and they`ll be left holding the baby. Why on earth would they go out of their way to do everything the US wants if they know the americans are activly packing their bags and passing the buck. Lession of south vietnam not lost on everyone in afghanistan and pakistan... You cant expect people and countries to jump at the prospect of being the coalitions meat sheald for departure that is getting sacrificed to the volwes. They`re taking a page out of the USs playbook. Rule one: look after yourself and your interests above all else. And we`re blaming them? I`m not.

You don`t even know what nation buidling is lol. Germany and Japan allready had a national identity. Waht you`re thinking off is demilitarisation. Nation building has flopped pritty much everywhere, when we talk about forcing a national identity from the outside (ie. Iraqis, Afghans etc.). And we all know this, so que "state building" - deliberate efforts by a foreign power to construct or install the institutions of a national government, according to a model that may be more familiar to the foreign power but is often considered foreign and even destabilising. Which is such an improvment... I`m sure the millions dead and misplaced are content knowing their suffering brought about a 40% increase in mobile phone coverage and another undemocratic and corrupt (puppet) regieme.

Each state has a right to choose itsown political, economic and social structure. We may not care much for it, but any meddling into internal affairs of any given state by another state, like the one proposed in the OP, is quite illegal. One would have thought that 2 "nation building" disasters in quick succesion were enough to teach people such change has to come from inner inertia and not outside influence.

Disputable given the nature of the two and their past. You can almost look at them as north v south in the US frozen just before the last blow of the south to the north. And lets not even get started on how big a threat Iran is heh...

Not as ofthen as the US does about China or Russia selling stuff to say Iran. Cos I mean, how will WE be able to invade THEM if THEY keep arming them? lol

Irrespecitve of the motive (I`m with Gfted1 on that one btw lol), there is one tncy wincy problen in afghanistan. The same one that`s pestering Iraq infact, just worse, far worse. Well 2 problems actually. a) there really isnt an afghani nation. Not really there isnt. Really. and b) the whole notion of "nation building (by force)" is dead set to go down as one of the more pompus historical blunders. Next to the lebensraum one. Afghanis are not afghanis, they`re tribal people. Say it with me: tribal people. And there are so many tribes there that they make Iraq look friggin homogeneous. And those tribes live tribal lives, with their own power structure, their own customs/laws and in generally their own way of life. There is no history of central identity and power other than that artificially created by foreign powers. You say they need accountants just as much as gunships... Like the millions of people living a very "primitive"/down with nature traditional life give or ever will give a toss about the accountants that we import. Best we can honestly hope so, if we cut all the hypocritical BS, is to "stabilise" the situation to a degree that the central government, which is btw honestly nothing more than one then militia we backed going in 8 years ago, wont collapse. We will do that either via appeasing all the local "warlords" (lol, @ the warlords term for the situation, maaking it as if taking out 3-4 nutjobs will change things) or via securing the "governments" position via force. Ushering in a "representatory" regime according to our taste. And for PR purposes we`ll be able to feel proud at footage from the 4 big cities come election day. Other than that, forget it. Might come as a shocker but our suburban idilla may not be the epiffany of a wet dream to everyone on this planet. Afhganistan democracy (forced down at gunpoint atleast) is not a lost cause since it never was a viable cause. One would have thought history had shown us that even pre 2001.

I like it. Seems like a barrel of laughs to pass the time. The Obama article is gold, UN is`t that bad either. Boy time flies when you start sifting through that. Not sour if I should be laughing or crying thoe.

Luckly an older autosave seemed to work. *shrug* Ya well, just goes to show, save often and on different slots. But keep one backup save file from when you first arrive on a planet lol.

My game ctds on the spot after I make it through the "underground sanctuary" maze. The cutscende between mira and hanharr in the arena takes place ok, pictures fades out and instead of combat... boom. desktop. awwwww. Is that a known bug? I have vista 64b and other than that it all worked fine upto now. btw, sry to hijack the thread.

Gameplay Fixes Have been removed - all fixes will be integrated into TSLRP. Very funny hehe.... But seriously now, I`ve hold off from replaying K2 for a year now waiting for TSLRP but now I cants take it anymore, I`m playing it again. Any chance these fixes (most notably for the broken quest on NS) available anywhere still?

From Georgia with love? Sucks when the tables turn, don`t it... I`ll just say thank feck none of you "geniouses" hold any office heh.

Yet another generation growing up knowing nothing but occupation, state terror and missery. Sources state that 75% of population of Gaza is malnurished, that 46% of their children have acute anemia. 1/5 of them are said to have stunted growth issue. Widespread hearing disorders from military jet sonic booms. Iron deficiency. Mental disorders culmunating in the fact that half of the children under 12 allegedly have "no will to live". Zero prospect of a decent life for 1.5mil people etc. etc. And somehow we will find it in ourselves the capacity to be "surprised & outraged" when one of these children in 10 years time decides to blow himself up in a cafe killin as many as he possibly can via a terrorist act: age old tool of the opressed and those without the capacity to fight back in any other meaningfull way. The real kick in the head is that escallations have a disturbing tendency to pick up around the time of Israeli elections. Everytime the jewish state has an election the palestinians end up paying for it via a show of force and determination. In the last 3 election the coinciding violence has helped progressivly more hardline politicians sieze power. This round is said to be helping the current defence&foreign ministers. Mustafa Barguti put it nicely recently .Israeli politicians shed blood for the needs of their campaigns. On the other hand palestinians are paying for their ellections aswell. Cos they did not vote correctly. Despite all the funding, bribes, facorizing and rule bending in favor of the immensly corrupt and inefficient Fatah (who many regard as collaborants) Hamas still managed to do a landslide win, not due to koran chants of killing infidels but due no small part to their social and humanitarian efforts in the gods forsaken Gaza. Ever since those elections in 05 everything that has happened has happened because Israel and certain international community wish to brake and disqualify hamas as a legitimate representative, in favor of the bend over & defeated Fatah, naturally. Democracy my bumm. The main "problem" is that Hamas has not given up their fight against the occupation and that it, in a very asymetrical fight, uses all means available to it. "Nobody can reject or condemn the revolt of a people that has been suffering under military occupation for 45(now 62) years against occupation force." General Shlomo Gazit, former chief of Israeli military intelligence, in 1993 Violence that affects palestinian children today will afect israeli children tomorrow. The systematic humilliation, infliction of pain, use of terror and hunger to brake their will, disproportionate violence coupled with collective punishment and blatand double standards&disregard for any and all internationall norms/law breed the same ruthless answer. 3 out of 4 palestinian children in gaza are said to want to be martyrs. Some would say Israel writes its own judgment.

Which valuies would those be btw? "God is a republican" complex and everyone not aboard the far right train is a moron? (the fact you allegedly red up on world and spanish history yet still can claim its better we conquered the world cos living under the muslim rule would meen our "extermination due to incompatibility" makes me think you are the moron here.) Taks you need professional help. Folks like you make the upcoming shift in world power balance a welcomed and overdue occurance. As far as for our "humanitarian mission"... 1mil iraqis dead as a result and a country that will collapse the week occupying troops ship out? Best thing to do now is to ethnically cleanse it for a relativly "peacefull" brakeup. We can sell the fact we`re going balkans on them behind the scenes to people like taks as a "improvment of the security situation". You dont say? If you ethnically cleanse an area of sunnis the sunni shia violence will go down? You think? Thats a big win for the coalition right there, things are working! Only snag is you gotta employ "slightly questionable techniques" eh heh. Oh well, UN and that stuff are complete muppets anyways, tis our god given right to do whatever we want, UN just wants to *insert prefered phobia* us. USA N1! lol... rednecks... And stating that russia and france had economic interests in iraq is suppose to justify what happened and is happening? It`s an established pracitice that no world power/player moves a pubic hair if its not his/hers interest on the line. And that rings EPECIALLY true for the so called champions of freedom and democracy lol. Its a dirty dirty world people. And after WW2 twas the US that dictated its image due to the given circumstances. Take a friggin guess if its possible to swimm in the ocean and stay dry lol...

You might wanna read up on say history of Spain there buddy. And heck, of every noncaucasian race. And if you think that it would have made any difference for a native american to be subjugated to genocide from caucasioans or asians because our way of life was morea easily "force fed" on them you`re living in a friggin fairytale. I thought I`ve seen some funny stuff coming from you, but the theory that Our historical and colonial practices were the ultimate in "user friendlyness" and are there for justified cos the ""****" or "sand-n`s" would have done far worse by them" no doubt takes THE cake. DO you actually BELIEVE the things that come out of your mouth? The prospect of that is what is frightening me the most. The only thing "deeply rooted" here s your biggotry and superiority complex. Of your race, of your religion and of your nation. As the need arises. It`s good comedy to see Americans crying "respect meh soveirnty" every time thoe. \doublefacepalm So you`re right. You really really REALLY don`t know. And since I`ll no doubt be branded a "Eurosnob" for not praying to the gods of liberty (for some) over the atlantic I`ll just say... if stating all the hypocracies of the western world is being a snob then surely this "patriotisim" on the other end of the spectrum is not much better than nazism. It hits almost the entire alphabet, from the sense of suppremacy in all areas, from cultural to the very valuation of life in accordance to a passport, to some divine "right" to impose your views and "order". I mean christ.... everybody else are "too nationalistic", (phear the russians!) when they move an inch in that direction. But "patriotism", that`s all right. For (some of) us, atleast. Edit: As to the incident... branding him an ingrate cos he would not have had the chance to do this under sadaam is cynisism beyond compare. I prefer to view this gesture and the support it generated in Iraq itself as a powerfull symbolic gesture. I don`t think it needs any special interpretation. It has te potential to become as cult as "yankee go home" lol.

For petes sake, how is saying "the issues are deeper and religious fundamentalism is but a menifestation of those issues" shoving anything under the carpet? It`s the exact opposite, saying islam is "barbaric" is doing that, in a very biggoted manner. There`s a billion muslims in much of the world, vest vast vast majority of them "moderate" by our standards. Head per head and % wise there are more orthodox jews than there are muslims lol. People that have a decent life generally do noot seek refuge in religious fundamentalism. How can that be not obvious? And yes human rights are our institution. Yet we can hardly go cryng foul play when we trample the rights and dignity of those very same people we say their reaction is simply due to rights being violated by Islam. Like I said, these rights and secular lifestyle is a domin of those that can "afford them". (Have you heard any of the american political speaches lately? They on average evoke God only 25% less than your average immam lol) When threathened, opressed, demonized and villified people turn to far wing ideologies. Give people a decent alternative. Sheria law is what cannon law is/was .Given the right circumstances it will "soften up" and/or be replaced with secular legislature. Has in Indonesia for instance. No denying it west leads the way in this (with churches battling it every inch of the way), but there is ZERO foundation to say "islam is too barbaric for it to work like that". And woe and behold, we just occupied the most secular state in ME. Whoopsie heh. Im sure its just Islams fault anyways. Those quarter of a billion perfect examples overe there are a fluke. Pile on the bombs. Having sex for virginity.

This "Islam" discussion is a mute point, honestly. A shroud and an easy thing to point a finger at to avoid the uderlying issues that are the real problem. I mean sure, in some segments its an arhaic system of beliefs. Now show me a religion that is not. christianity and judaism also have more than their fair share of norms that would strike us odd. And they both have their fare share of fundamentalists (orthodox christians, zionists etc. etc.)... Saying islam is not "evolved enough" is silly, neither chirstianity or judaism are particulary more "enlightened". Their practicioners are just, for the most part, far better off. The roles could have very well been and indeed have been reversed. The only difference is the objective set of differences these groups face. "We" conduct "state terorism", simply because we can. Crazy people dont go around on suicide missions because they have reasons to live for and decent lives in nonoccupied countries/regions. They vote far right parties instead lol. Induviduals in the so called "muslim world" are for the most part stuck with its crude methods they`re willing to employ cos they have little or nothing left. Desperate times for desperate measures I suppose. Islam has about as much to do with it as a cover of the book has with the content. It`s a fascade. If a man grows up in a refugee camp, sees people die, has his house demolished, is treated like garbage for his entire life with zero to slim prospect of a meaningfull or decent existance, sees his region being a playgroud for foreign powers that value profit and strategic interest over the lives of the locals and so decides to blow himself up since that is about the only thing he can do against his opposition that has any effect, dont you think there are other issues there worth mentioning before his particular brand of fndamental faith? At the end of it all, what difference does it make wether he yells "allah", "jahve" or "god wills it" when he`s pushing the button? For petes sake, back in the day the jews were the resident ME terrorists. What, judaism "evolved" in the past 100 years or so? Get real. Objective circumstances changed in their favor. Thats it. You still have plenty whacko Izraelis to this day that would prolly do some crazy stuff were they the ones in camps etc. Pointing at islam is finding a convenient and simple reason&"enemy" for the masses that are to lazy to use their brains. Or just flat out refuse to do so since they might come to some unpleasant conclusions and realizations about some co-responsibility for the state of world affairs. Keeping to the old and tested recepy. Find a recognisable outside enemy. Simplify. Demonize. Sleep tight knowing your bases are covered and questions wont be asked.

What do I know about it? Some tidbits I picked up on actual law university. What do you know about it, prey tell? Just how hypocritical can you get? US demolished 2 countries for an attack on its teritories when there was harldy much to connect them with it. And now youre sweeping under the rug a fact its military is conducting fresh illegit combat operations in a third. God I actually hope syrians get their hands on some russian hardware and down one of those choppers next time. It`d be interesting to observe, the outrage. And speaking of CB, Syria has a waterproof one at this stage, US, faaar from it. the fact you wouldnt rank this top of the list either means a) w had a really catastrophic foreign policy, b) you have funny criteria for prioritising things, or my fav. c) combination of both heh.

Reducing the argument to weather or not the killed were civilians is cynical at best. Those 7 or 8 might aswell been the scum of the earth smuggling crack cocain to toddlers in gotham city, that still doesnt change a few pesky facts about a certain nations army again violating all internationall law.

Guess we now know why some people get their panties in a knot at the mere mention of the possibilty of Russia selling Syria stuff like s-300 defense systems. Oh, and on the back of the 24/7 sovereignty sermons not too long ago (georgia), this is friggin HILLARIOUS.

sigh... Edit: atlest Bioware and LA agreed with me on the poin that OE made a bad decision of going for "the last of the jedi" thing again, killing off an exiting new era to a close to OT status... from what I gather k2 seems to be almost completley overlooked/reversed in that aspect lol. This sith empire invaded after Revan never returned and they had a bigass war killing thousands of old jedi, and there we go... Congrats on your non canon game OE? Either that or its gonna be a completley lame workaround, 20k jedi hid succesfully. Looking for the last few survivers of a decimated order in k2 is gonna/has lost a bit of its sparkle heh...