Epiphany

Lets see how this works: Wow, was that a (poor) attempt at an insult? I'm hurt! No really I am! Seriously! No no honestly! Ok, not really, but can't blame a guy for trying! Run along little child and come back when your intelligence at least matches your shoe size. Wow, that worked both ways, amazing...

Did everything I came across, minus playing pazaak and that swoop crap, took me about 40 hours first time through.

the first game by about 60%

When Aragorn tells the hobbits they bow to no one.

Type O Negative way too many kick ass songs to pick a favorite

It's not the greatest ending ever, but it's heads above KOTOR 2's ending. At least in the first game, you were shown something, and there was some feeling of closer to that chapter of your character. The end to KOTOR 2 leaves you with a "where's the rest" feeling.

I wanted to stop reading here, because at this point I knew you were clueless... but I forced myself to continue until I read the following Which truely made me realize you had no idea what you were talking about.

You lie to them... oh wait you can't lie. Basically it was a serious oversight...

The "unofficial" official word from their forums are... They aren't interested in doing it, because they're going to devote their efforts into their IP projects.

Personally, I thing they blew the first Kotor out of the water. Use your brain please? Stop posting gibberish. This is the typical fanboy cop out question. Meaning, you have no substantial arguement with which you can fall back on. All the modification in the world can't cover the fact that: a) the workbench system in this game is pointless, as you find/buy everything you can build b) the workbench system does not create a game balance c) the new feats, while interesting, do not make up for the lack of balance, nor the massive holes left in the story d) the new feats, while interesting, do not account for the areas left out of the game, because they decided to focus on less important things (such as the workbench, med lab, feats, powers and weapons so that you could modify your character more) e) not only did they add new force powers, but they glitched some that worked fine in the first game f) not only did they add new force powers, but they added some that have no practical use g) the weapons added are of little consiquence, as the weapons you will most likely use are copies of ones in the previous game But yes, modifying your character is so much more important than having some sense of enemy AI, or a story with a little more thought in the end, or even an ending worth talking about. Hell, it's more important than getting a reasonable influence system put into place, rather than the halfassed version we ended up getting. Perhaps all those new additions you mentioned were far more important than sinking those man hours into bug/glitch finding. Cause many of them are so obvious the only way you couldn't see/find them is if you didn't play the game. You assume so much, it really does make an ass out of you. When you can point out where I said they didn't put effort into character creation, then you can win. The story is hardly complex, as it has lose ends that they obviously didn't have the time to flesh out, since they spent unnecessary time on new animations, broken force powers, changing feats to make them even more powerful and unbalanced, and modifying the level progression so that there is no difference between the various jedi classes. They also bugged the marauders fury. An influence system that makes no sense, since you, the player have no influence over the NPC's, rather, they have the influence control over you. You can't lie to them, you can't manipulate them, the only choice you have, in a roleplaying sense, is to tell the truth, ALWAYS. That doesn't leave a lot of room to play that manipulative sith lord, now does it? Get a clue, sherlock. lol Yeah, you can conclude from my post that I said they did nothing on this game. Again, you draw so many assumptions that the ass in you just leaps from your post. They made a game that could have been much better had their efforts been more focused. What a tool WTF are you talking about... Do you have any sense of logic in your arguement, or are they all just baseless conclusions drummed up in your head? If you understood game developement, then you would know that building an engine is largely time consuming. When given an engine that is workable, and knowing you have a year to work on said game... Efforts should be put into priorities, such as, fleshing out the story, giving gamers a lot of explorable content. Not sacrificing the last 1/3 of the game for the sake of new animations, character models, useless additional force powers, changing feats to make them even more powerful, removing a semi-decent AI from force tuned enemies, sinking resources into changing the swoop racing game, changing the workbench system, and then not allowing you to build anything unique, therefore, showing that it's a waste, etc... If you'd like to try again, feel free.

sounds like you had another infamous "glitch"

the first game wasnt as "great" as you make it out to be either. one of your biggest beefs (or atleast one of the ones i think ive seen you mention, i get you confused with jedimasterrevan and dr cloak) is the easy combat. kotor1 had that too. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I've never once stated that KOTOR was the be all to end all. Perhaps it's a misunderstanding when I say KOTOR 2 pales in comparison, since technically, it pales in comparison to a slightly above average game. But, your comment about combat, I'll say this: In KOTOR, the enemy AI was far superior to that in KOTOR 2 (again, meaning that KOTOR AI wasn't the greatest thing ever, but is still far superior). Sith lords, apprentices and whatnot actually USED a lot of force powers on you and your party. That alone created a new element during combat that is completely absent from this game, save 2 specific encounters. On top of that, KOTOR wasn't an utter monty hall game. That also created a new element in combat that made an already substandard AI even easier to combat since you are so loaded with badass equipment. We aren't talking about Fable here. We are talking about KOTOR 2... They had a year to work on story and the functionality of that within the game. The engine was already done, the skills, feats and force powers were already finished. The models were done, the weapons were done and the animations were done. Now, it's not my fault, they chose to focus on new animations and new some character models instead of fleshing out the critical components of any RPG. They had a year, and they didn't use it wisely, they upgraded pointless activities like swoop racing instead of giving us a little more "meat" at the end. Several parts of the game feel underdeveloped, such as the entire "get pulled along from place to place" ending. They somehow, took certain force powers that worked in the first game, and broke their functionality in the second game.

Funny part is, you are still unable to prove anything you've said. The only thing you can do is run around touting about how KOTOR 2 is the best game on the market right now. You provide no examples, when people point out your flawed view, you make up arguements in order to try and avoid the issue. Much like you've just done. Face it, you're either: 1) An utterly blind fanboy on crack 2) Someone that's trying to justify their purchase of a crap game by coming to the forums and talking big about it. You're all alone in your little crusade. Seriously, you seem to have a preoccupation with 10 year olds and mothers! Are you trying to say something here? And you do know what your suggesting is illegal right? Oddly enough, we know where your pathetic mind is... "Bed time with your mother" following a comment about stories... Hmmm What conclusion would someone that wasn't a pervert pull from that? Oh yeah, you know, when you go to bed and your mother reads your stories... sick ****

Technically, 3. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I didn't consider that one since it's only avaliable to male PC's.

He doesn't understand. He thinks the work they did on the engine for KOTOR 2 actually made things better...

once in one dueling area up to twice in the other

I meant the armband, buddy.

There are two of them. One you don't have a lightsaber yet, and the other you can only use your saber twice out of like 5 or 6 fights.

Mine was asking if the they were going to redesign the robes in KOTOR 2... Hadn't been confirmed yet.

Cause his name was Darth Sidious... Senator (and then Emperor) Palpatine was just the name he used in public.

This is why 10 year olds aren't allowed to manage stores.

My complaints aren't fictional. If you had the reading comprehension of a monkey, you'd realize that everything I've complained about, many, many other people on these forums have also complained about. Best of 04? Let's see, what was the competition. Sudeki and Fable... hmmm BOY WHAT A BOAT LOAD OF GAMES TO GO UP AGAINST. I have the point of view that you're an idiot, for claiming this game surpasses the first "in every way". The framerate is worse, the AI is worse, the random item placement wasn't thought out like in Icewind Dale, several force powers are useless, some force powers don't work, their is no true difference between the various jedi classes, the game is unbalanced (read: way too easy even on hard), it's a monty hall experience right out of the box, the areas are underdeveloped, the influence system is twisted and broken, and there was a serious lack of effort put in to the final third of this game. Actually, dumbass... I've never complained about those quests. Perhaps you should, before typing some idiocy, take a moment to do some research. See, while you claim I make up "fictional complaints", you actually make up a fictional arguement to further your weak point of view. The only quest I've ever mentioned that was broken is the escaped criminal quest from Telos (or "Talos by your standards). You do not confront them on the planet surface. Yeah, considering you have read two threads on this forum, by the looks of your uninformed post regarding complaints by other users. Try again won't ya? If you do: 1) Bring some type of intelligent arguement 2) Bring facts 3) Leave your make believe stories at home, for bed time with your mother

It doesn't change, it's +1 CON the whole game. There's no sub-plot, it's just some armband for your PC.

Fine, but I hereby command you to forgo any religious beliefs you may have, and convert to epiphanism.

also an autoban for accusations against users removing other people's right to freedom of speech and religion