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Or the lady running Czerka on telos <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I don' think so. Luxa actually enlists you to kill Slusk. The Czerka chick ain't got nothing against Slusk; they're kinda in business together

"???: To put it plainly, I want you to kill Lopak Slusk(?)." That's prob'ly Luxa

Maybe it wouldn't work, but I like both those ideas. I can see stepping off the 'Hawk to face down a half dozen true Sith, striking a pose and hitting them with a Level 27 dose of Force Wave.... ...and they all grin, and just keep coming.

I hope that ain't true. I rented Battlefront and it was a pretty standard FPS. Barely replayable. Perfect for the rental market. Republic Commando, from what little I sat through in the demo, looks like a lot of the same. If you're into FPSes, there's much better stuff out there. RPGs seem much more suited to the whole Star Wars scene, and LucasArts doesn't seem to get it. (I've never played the Jedi Knight games so I might be partially wrong. They any good?) LucasArts does a lousy job making Star Wars games. Bioware (Carth bug aside) and Obsidian (hasty launch aside) both have done much greater justice to the Star Wars legacy and its fans than anything LA's put out in years, including movies. I had an early XBox game by LucasArts, Obi Wan, and replayed it a bunch, but that was only cuz it was back before there was much available on XBox. I'd rather go back and replay Munch's Odysee. Battlefront and Commando seem cut from the same very forgettable cloth. Was Galaxies LA's baby? I heard it's pretty lame from someone who tried real hard, for months, to like it. I wonder if LA's killing KOTOR outta bitterness and jealousy. They say TV execs loved making money off "Seinfeld" but hated the show and people associated with it because it violated all their rules for grinding out formulaic schlock to be lapped up by the TV audience. If you could only buy Episode III or KOTOR III, which would you choose? I rest my case.

I think the best three NPC characters, in order, are Kreia, Atton, then Mira. My favorite three, in order, are Atton, Mira, then Kreia.

Hear, hear! Almost every single rewiew I've read has praised this game, so It really can't be that bad, right? I too think that this is whine over minimal value stuff. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It's kinda funny, people complaining about a game they've "finished ... several times already." "I hated this game so much as a DS male consular I'm going to play as a LS female guardian to see if it sucks worse that way." Ba hahaha ha ha! I can sympathize with K3 speculation and have done some of it myself. K2 leaves so many plotlines unfinished it's obvious the designers intended or hoped for a K3 to wrap up the trilogy, so it's inevitable for players to speculate on where the story is going. Most of the K3 threads are cearly labeled as such. Skip 'em if they don't interest you.

Yeah, I was leaving CON low initially as well, but now I turn it up to 14 with everything else so I can use some of the halfway decent implants. Lately I been pouring extra points into DEX when I get them until I go into a prestige class and then start putting the extra points in WIS. Thanks for the rest a y'all's tips too. Sounds like you can make the Exile into a one-man Death Star if you pour a lot of points into STR and gear up with STR-boosting equipment. I've gotten my DEX and WIS up into the mid 30s (not at the same time, I'd have to switch gear depending on the situation) but maybe that's partly cuz I've been splitting points between the two. Thanks for the explanation Phosphor. Maybe y'all oughta just take the poll tool off if you don't want people using it. Obsidian dropped a couple notches in my estimation over this. If the company retains the KOTOR contract, you'll probably get my business there, but I won't be going outta my way to find other Obsidian titles. Just a slightly slighted customer.

Thanks for moving it. I realized too late I stuck it in storyline. I didn't realize making it a poll was some kinda hassle. Why's it a problem (not that I'll ever do it again)? A few people answered the poll without writing in. Maybe it should be made more clear that the poll tool is reserved for important questions like "what color is your lightsaber" and "which NPC would you rather take to the drive-in?" Jeez...

Ba haha hahaha ha! A Sith Lord with a social conscience! If the other Sith Lords make fun of you because of it, just tell them you saved the children cuz they'll be a much greater challenge to kill when they're grown up.

I found it a little hard to believe that a lens I made with on my own workbench could be any less personal than some lense some guy handed to me, but I can accept it as a device to force you to play without a lightsaber for a planet or two. I guess I wasn't all that disappointed, expect during my first play through I waited way too long to make my lightsaber. I guess I was expecting more of a big deal to be made, through cut scenes or something, when I finally had all the pieces to get started.

Since you went with Mira I voted Atton, but I think they're pretty close. Atton's been the first one I can turn Jedi, so he generally ends up with more Jedi levels than the others. I imagine you could make any of them the best depending on how you play. Handmaiden is another candidate cuz of all her combat prowess, but I tend to prefer playing more skill-based characters.

The first time I played through I wasn't sure they were the same guy. The second time through i got the dialog between him and Kreia that made it obvious he is the same guy.

I kinda guide my choice of prestige class by role playing considerations. The first time through I figured the Exile felt a responsiblity to restore the order, and went Jedi Master to be a better teacher of all his padawans. The second time through I figured the Exile was mostly motivated by trying to combat the evil creeping into the galaxy with the collapse of the order, so I had him go on to Watchman. I didn't notice much difference in gameplay, but I played my Jedi Master game on "Normal," so maybe going Watchman was a big help when I changed to the "Difficult" setting. Weapon master doesn't interest me. To me that sounds more like a job for the protaganist's master. Both times I started as Sentinel and doubt I'll ever play in any of the other starting Jedi classes. Consulars are utterly skillless and that drives me nuts (I tried going Consular for about 45 game minutes and quit before I even got off Peragus). While in KOTOR consulars they were way more powerful than Sentinels, I don't think that's the case at all this time around because the Exile hardly ever drains off his Force Points. I was never interested in guardian in KOTOR, even though there were times I was way outclassed in a fight and can see where it might've been a good build. In TSL, I've only been outclassed in a couple fights so I don't see the point in giving up anything to further overpower my attack skills.

Sorry to repeat this question, but I'm curious and Obsidian pulled down the old XBox board before I could see y'all's answers. In KOTOR, I got to where I'd leave Revan's STR around 10. While I thought it was worthwhile to avoid the -1 damage penalty while using melee weapons at STR 8, I didn't see any value in STR beyond that. Once you had a lightsaber and your to-hits were governed by DEX (and I don't think STR added to damage using lightsabers) STR was completely useless. STR seems even more pointless to me in TSL, since the Melee Finesse feat allows you to use DEX to govern your use of melee weapons too. Since DEX also helps with ranged weapons, lightsabers and maybe even skills like Stealth (not sure if that's correct) I've started leaving my STR at 8 (other attributes are all at 14 to avoid the 2-for-1 pricetag for going above 14 during the initial build) and grabbing the finesse feat right away. I also use ranged weapons, stealth and mines a lot, so most times my enemies are dead before they get close enough for STR to matter. On the other hand, I've never played KOTOR as soldier or guardian and I'm unlikely to ever go with guardian in TSL, so maybe it's just my style of play. Do any of you use STR? What kind of PC build or playing style do you get the most benefit from high STR. How high of STR is about right? Likewise, is there anyone else otu there with no use for STR and how do you manage without it?

I'd go way back to some point before telling everyone (outside the 'hawk is where you first get the option) that you're going to JJT to meet that squidheaded guy. It sounds like something went wrong with Hanharr and /or Kreia and they don't know that it's time for the story to advance. I had something kinda similar happen in the fight on onderon. The head bad guy was the last guy left alive on his side and you couldn't attack him or talk to him. Some sort of cutscene was s'psoed to kick in but he just stood there instead. He got messed up during the fight somehow and I only had to go back to the beginning of the fight for Vaklu to get set right. This one sounds a little more like the old KOTOR Carth Bug, where a glitch doesn't appear until several action scenes and cut scenes after the event which caused it, forcing you to replay a few hours of the game. It can be pretty frustrating but I try to look at it like "Well, I'll probably be replaying this part of the game in a couple weeks anyway. No harm done."