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Agreed. I just don't believe people's arguments about Bioware doing better deserves any merit. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Agreed. I don't even waste my time reading unsubtantiated trolling.

I don't see why the fact that things were cut out makes this game any worse than it is. Would it have been better, would it have made you enjoy it more if these cuts were never discovered? Could more elements be put into the game? Could the game have improved if given more time? Yes. But those are words that would have mattered 2 months ago that mean nothing now. Take the game for what it is, whether you consider it finished or unfinished, and judge it for what it is. Me? I find it just fine. It's no Planescape: Torment, but the quality of the writing, the personal effects it had on me, the conflicts over grey domain, they appealed to me, and I like this game for what it is. Perhaps if more time were spent on it I would like it more, but that doesn't make this game terrible as many of you are arguing. Sorry for the double posts and all the ranting, but I do feel very passionately about this situation. It feels like NWN all over again. Neither Bioware nor Obsidian devs find "X company could have done better" comments regarding a franchise that teams on both companies poured their hearts and work into. Saying so, especially out of spite, just undermines everything both companies have done up to this point. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The thing is mith, the XBOXers were already aware of the lack of closure in the afforementioned story departements raised in that thread - *before* 'discovering' the actual cuts; it was as apparent as the gaping maw of a redwood stump. Story elements were introduced so immensely...and then without any resolution simply stopped. The game would have been complete if they hadn't rushed it with such severity. The degree of this mad rush even decreed a single day's work too much time to spend: You've got a point. Still, while he may not be trustworthy in regards to what is going to be developed, I'm guessing he's much more reliable when it comes to what isn't being developed. Hey, I never said anything about hooded robes. You got me on Swoop Upgrades though. I figured they were a sure thing, since about 80% of the work needed for them had been done fairly early in the project, and there was just a day's worth of interface changes left to support them. But in the end, it was decided that day's worth of work was better spent on something else, so they got the axe. Wasn't my call. But my choices are either to never say anything, or go with what seems to be the case at the time. I guess I should just couch everything I say behind 'maybe, probably, perhaps, it could happen' more often. As far as KotOR3 goes, it still isn't under development. We got a good laugh here at the office when that article went around. -Akari TSL's a good game, even it's it's unfinished, rushed state - but with a little more time (especially to complete the ending), it could have been on par with Torment.

You can't get anything more definitive than 'rushed game' here peeps : **DO NOT GO HERE UNLESS YOU'VE FINISHED THE GAME** Cut Ending Stuff

So you've been waiting a few days? I'm unsympathetic. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Maybe he's an XBOXer?

While I like KotOR better than TSL, is it really a fair test to compare a masterpiece like K1 to the un-finished product that is K2?

Oh Thanks for the heads up jag!!! My HK is still sparking in the cargo hold so I haven't talked to him at all yet, since I got the final part I need to fix him I'm definately keeping an eye out for this conversation. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No problem Muad'Dib. Wait 'till you ask him what his 'definition of love' is in regard to your women troubles. ^_^

This thread is following a very familiar and predictable pattern. "

Actually that wasn't cut - it's very much in the game, providing you have enough influence with HK. I believe camicortes just added it to keep in the spirit of this thread and the rest of his post.

Doesn't mean it can't be enjoyed by 'adults'. Take the X-Men and Spiderman movies for example. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> <{POST_SNAPBACK}> <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What? Man obviously they were succesfull... duh.... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Exactly. Obviously successful. I pity the fool who thinks otherwise.

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Tell that to the four who tried to "arrest" Palpatine :

Too bad Vader...er Anakin turned the Jedi Temple to this : :'(

Sticky it! Sticky it now! (w00t)

Dark Lord of the Sith.

I really hope they do that. The ending of K2 left me with the same aftertaste I had when I read TotJ. I'd rather they didn't explore all the 'True Sith Empire' business. It doesn't feel very 'star wars-y' to me. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Don't you mean 'you really hope they *don't* do that'? "

I'm in Palm Springs, so Irvine is what, 60-90 mins away? My comp desk is looking a little old, and those chairs are rather nice... ^_^

No disrespecet to you Bulg, but such speculation is ridiculous. K2 was developed with the continuation of the story in mind; and if K3 is developed (and developed by Obsidian), it's naturally going to pick up where it left off.

Yes, Good Game. *praises*

Nope. That's pretty much it.

Surely you still have an active autosave or a quicksave?

Depends on how you've treated them. Finish the game and find out yourself!

If you were a True Sith, you'd have no problem.

You really need to replay it as an LS male Kumquatq.

Yeah. To be more precise the following books of TotJ: Knights of the Old Republic Freedon Nadd Uprising Dark Lords of the Sith The Sith War Redemption Now these TotJ books are not set in the KotOR time period, but 1000 years earlier: The Golden Age of the Sith The Fall of the Sith Empire