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Before NWN, I barely knew what on line play was. LOL Now, it's cool. :cool: "They mentioned QA and stuff didn't used DM client for the making of NWN2 so it really is not that much needed or something." I don't care. I, and others, do use it to test. And, it is needed for those thousands of epople who play PWs and small DMed groups. Might be a minority; but it's a sizeable minorty. Of course the problem is many on line players (like me) also like SP so they got us by the ballz. Just like those whining about the length before, theywer egonna buy the game anyways even if it was 20 hours long. Right Eldar?

That's a lot to live up to. Lilac Soul's Generator is awesome. if I ever get my mod (lololollipop) it'll be a big reason why. That said, nice video. Not much new; but some neato stuff like the included generator which I hadn't heard about 'til now...

I liked KOTOR2 too depsite some problems with it. That's why despite my dissapointment with the likely cutting of the DMC, I still plan to buy NWN2 because I think the OC should be good.

"It's not in Obsidian's interest to have their people lie, Spider." I don't think obsidian has lied. I just think they have had poor planning, and time management. That is not a good sign. "

"OC is single-player only, it cant be played multi with a DM or not" Yes, you can. Mr. Sawyer stated that it's not ideal to play the OC in MP; but it's very possible. The DM (if there is one that actually will exist) can be used to. It wasn't 'ideal' to play NWN OC (any of them) in MP either; but it was possible. "If the DM Client is important to anyone, I advice that person to simply not buy the game until the client's been released." It's not clear cut for everyone. Not for me to be sure. 'Cause while I want the DMC, there's other parts of the game I really want like the OC for example. And, oh, the DMC is a non issue now. It's no longer (unless they somehow squeeze it into the release) apart of the game package now. It's likely been cut. Sure, it will likely be released in apatch; but it's nwoehe near the same thing. Obsidian has said in the past that they believed that all four parts wer eimportant; but anyone who buys that is wearing blinders. And, oh, cutting the DMC won't help sales no matter how much ones liek Grom. There's a reason why NWN has sold the Bg games, and is actually comeptiing with KOTOR as BIO's highest selling game despite KOTOR being strictly SP and having the SW logo on it (which is way more mass market than D&D is). I'll buy NWN2 on release day because even without the cut DMC, I think NWN2 might be worth it... surely more than a particular overrated game that was release not that long ago. :D

It's E3 time which is why we're likely getting more info now. Besdies, the DM Client habaloo on the NWN2 baords woke up the Obsidians as they have been posting A LOT the last few days in comparison to beforehand (they were posting before but not this much).

ANOTHER UPDATE BY THE ALL IMPORTANT ONE: 1. TOEE 2. NWN (modding only currently) 3. EVQ2 4. MVP Baseball 2005 (slowing down thoguh as I think my CD got scratche dup somehow.. don't know why it never leaves the PS2, lol)..

"Sheperd was given a few conversation options. In the bottom right hand corner of the screen was displayed red circle, split into six sections. Each section described a basic emotional reaction like "I'm not going to go along with this," but not the exact statement that would be uttered." This is the tricky part, and I asked on the baords if the 'ol dialogue options would still be in along with the emotional add ons and was told yes. That's why I actually want to see a dialogue screen...

Probably. Kanadians are known for their bigotry. At least they should be as that's exactly what they are.

You'll still get the normal dialogue choices found in BIO games which was biggest worries. I just want to see a screen or a clip of it in action.

BL's role-playing is on par (and in some ways better); but it's combat is much, much worse. In fact, BL's combat makes KOTOR's combat look godly. ""New" dialog system? What's is it?" I'm not perfectly clear on it as of yet. It seems to combine the typical BIO/Obsidian/Dialogue with a new emotive type. Here's a snip about a convo with a bartender from the various previews: "BioWare chose to play through with the stock bald headed guy, and demonstrated a tense conversation with a bartender. Sheperd walked up and engaged the drink distributor politely at first, inquiring where a certain diplomat might be found. When the barkeep bristled and clammed up, Sheperd was given a few conversation options. In the bottom right hand corner of the screen was displayed red circle, split into six sections. Each section described a basic emotional reaction like "I'm not going to go along with this," but not the exact statement that would be uttered. Picking the more forceful, negative reaction of the bunch two times, Sheperd eventually pulled out a gun and aimed it directly at the bartender's face, and subsequently go the location of the diplomat" P.S. On top of all the other stuff, I think this illustrates that this is no simple 'action rpg'. Not to many action games have that kind of emphasis on dialogue. Heck, most role-playing games don't either. LOL

"It just looked like you were calling the BG games action games which is wrong." Well.. they do have lots of action... what do you call having to fight an army xvarts? :D But, yeah, ME will probably closer to an 'action' combat style than BG... like I said, closer to a mix of JE/KOTOR. But, the actual role-playing, if previews are accurate, should be at least on the level of JE (which means better than BG). My biggest worry is the 'new' dialogue system they have... that could turn out ugly...

ME Combat (as described): 1. Stats effect outcomes 2. You can control the npcs or allow AI to control them in battle 3. You can pause to give commands Sure sounds like IE combat, and any BIO combat system. Though, it's combat has been described by BIO as closest to KOTOR. (but hooepfully it's much better). And, it won't take much to have better rping than the Bgs. R00fles!

WOW! She may not be the hottest woman all the time; but you people need to take a chill pill...

Just like the BG series was!!!

NWN2 is always worth the time, jerk!

Meta > Jags in Controller Wars 1!!!

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The demonstration video doens't work for me. I've been trying for like an hour (or whenever it first came out)... Argh!

Jags 4 THA W!

If she is nude in it, I'll buy it!

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I would hope you don't have to click on every attack. Games that force you to do that are annoying unless it's an action. This is an RPG. But, I doubt it's like that.

If the DM CLient isn't a part of the CD at release, and comes out in a patch; it's not part of the game because it means we didn't truly pay for it. It was a free bonus like any other patch.

True, which is why it's silly for us to argue what THEY want.