Volourn

"Every Cameron's story is weak for Christ's sake: a robot sent back in time to kill the mother of a yet unborn resistance leader, followed by the father of said leader *head explodes* Titanic is even dumber, a love story that plays on the class card: love crosses all boundaries even between the rich and poor yadayadayada Taken that way all his movies are sh!t. " Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Then again, you are the guy who believes that a rodent is the best npc in a video game ever. LMAO

"finaly insta-death. " That's horrible DMing. A PC should never be 'predetermined' to die under any circumstances. Anyways, let him play the character. Eventually, he might murder the wrong person and he can pay for it. If you felt the character would mess up your camapiagn you shoudl have simply said no when he created it...

"As for the 3D and eye candy argument, this isn't the first 3D movie and that Final Fantasy movie was a box office flop despite having high tech eye candy. That might carry a movie to number 1 for a week or two, but so far Avatar is showing much stronger than just a flash in the pan pretty picture." Hype. Avatar was hyped real well. Not neccessarily more but better. It also has James cameron making his first movie since Titanic, the REAL 31 all time selling movie not Avatar whicvh you errorously claimed. "How exactly are you defining a 'good' movie anyways? If we take 100 people with an IQ over 120 and poll them on whether Avatar is good or bad, would that be more satisfactory to you? " Nope. I judge a movie's quality based on how much I like it. There is no real factual way to judge the quality of a movie (or anything that deals with creativty be it art, movies, books, or games). It's all opinion. "That's a pretty flimsy argument when you are dealing with the best selling movie of all time, which Avatar seems to be closing in on." Avatarn is not the best selling movie ever. You aren't Nostradomus so stop acting like it. Titanic is the number one selling movie ever until proen otherwise. Afterall, people, had the foolish notiion that The Dark Knight would pass Titanic. WRONG.

"In any case, odd to say the 90's are overrated for gaming, mostly people mention that with regards to the quality rather than the popularity." The problem is that people tend to remember the good and not the bad. There was a lot of crap made in the 90s (as there is in the 00s) that are forgotten. The Gb games are a prime example of this. People remember the Gb fondly and while the Gb games ahd some darn good games (POR being most noteable); there was a lot of crap too hence why the GBG and the developers crashed and burned. 10 years from now the popular games will be remembered and the crappy ones will be forgotten so people then will fiondly remember the 00s too. This is what I call the 'old geezer disease' ala 'everything was better in my day' or 'thuings were tough but it made us tougher' (otherwise known as the'in my days we had to trudge through 5 miles of deep snow to get to school so that makes me better than you').

"Aren't you there too Volourn? On-site Bioware fanboy and anti-Bioware hater or something " My opinions don't change depending on the board I'm on. My posting style does. If people think I can be a jerk here, they shouldn't read my posts on the Codex. The Aliens game footage itself is fine for what it is. Definitely notm worth so much hate. I do laugh at the PC running back and simply watching their ally being attacked and presumably slaughtered. L0L

"I don't visit the Codex often but... Dear God, so much hate in that thread. What is that place? Do they like anything?" It's the Codex. They hate everything pretty much. Even the games that are well liked there are hated on. Codex has a saying:"If you like a game, it very likely sucks." (not exact quote)

You claimed that a movie's popularity was factual proof of its quality. That's silly talk, and you know it. "But hey, I've sent you a few PM's about my concerns over your posting habits. I am here for you if you want to have a real discussion on developing relationships with people on these boards. Until you are willing to open up to someone, you will not really be taken seriously here, you will just be they guy who throws out the same arguments ad nauseam with no regard for others." Why troll? Stick with the actual topic about the Avatar movie which cna include comaprisons. Your opinion on me is irrelevant here.

Sure, you can. Oh, you eamn, you can only praise it not diss it based on video right? Anyways, thje video is alright. Nothing special.

"What was so great about ME's dialogue system ? " I didn't know the discussion was about being great or not. That's a whole nother debate. But, there is no doubt that ME's dialogue system has influenced other games and will continue to do so. "And DA's Origin thing, yeah, amazing really. Not really sure why it matters if the mainstream gets something in terms of a game being good, though. But I guess everything's been done to death over the years, so can't really be disappointed. " Wut? We're talking about influence, and if only a handful of net nerds are the only ones who have ehard ofs oemthing its influence is gonna be severely lacking. Sorry. P.S. Boo doesn't understand things, apparantly.

"They would, and lose." LOL But, no. And, let's not forget Godzilla, King Kong, and Jaws (thoguh not really a monster in the grandest sense since it's based on a real animal). "Dracula and Frankenstein were literature monsters first and foremost, no?" Doesn't matter. They are still iconic monsters with tons of movies based on them and highly easily recognizable. I bet anyone whom has seen a movie is above the age of 10 has seen at least one movie with Dracula. The number of people who have seen an Alien movie or even heard of it is probably miniscue comapred to Dracula or Frankenstein. Iconic doesn't mean 'I llike x more than y'; it's about influence, recognization factor, and everything based on them. " Dracula has lost most of his iconic since vampires have been used and reused for all kinds of settings, their look and feel changed so many times. Todays, the only features everyone associates with vampires are the pointed teeth." He hasn't lost any bit of his iconic status. In fact, all the new age vampire stuffm just heightens it. How many monsters are based off aliens? very few. To claim that Aliens are at the level at the aformentioned monsters is ludicrous. b "ut its undeniably true that the design of the Alien was the work of a (deranged?) genius. I don't know any of the symbolism behind it, and I don't really care, but the design just strikes as unforgettable." I'm not arguing otherwise. The alien is a fantastically designed monster, imo. No doubt about it. But, it's not iconic at the level of Dracula, King Kong, and the like. Heck, the T Rex as made famous in Jurassic Park is probably more iconic.

"Seriously, i'm curious. Can you suggest a game of the current century that's actually innovative and original?" NWN with the relatiovel;y easy to use toolset. And, its effect is still being felt 7 years later. The BG series is basically irrelevant outside of a handful of fanboys. DA with the origins. ME with its dialogue system. These two have influenced other game cimpanies espicially Obsidian as evidenced by how many times AP is compared to ME, and how they have even gone with the sasme sort of dialogue system. They're even going for soemthing similar to BIO's origin system. Even though, people don't care much, NHL 08 was definitely innovative and has basically brought the NHL series new life after some soft years. There are tons of 21st century games that have added to the game world and will be remembered decades later. The 90s as a decade are vastly overrated. Face it, the mainstream didn't give a poo about FO until Bethesda's FO3. And, I say that while eprsonally hating FO3. The same goes for plenty of other games. People need to get past their personal likes and dislikes and see the big picture. *shrug*

I hate FO3 but sadly Killian is correct. Bis was ultimiately a failure of a division. Seriously, how many games did they have canceled in the last few years? At least Bethesda releases games their audience wants to play. That's the veryd efinition of successful. Canceling games left and right, being overshadowed by our supposed lackey, and ultimiately crashing and burning ism proof of this. This is why it annoys me when people try to link Obsidian to BIS. Bis was a failure. Obsidian isn't... yet....

They're going to see it multiple times because they like it and it is their PERSONAL opinion it is good. But, this is okay, it is obvious you are just trolling. Typical of you, actually.

"And you forget the Alien itself which is the most iconic movie monster of all time." O RLY? I bet Dracula, Frankenstein, and quite a few others would argue with that assessment. "Alien invented the bulkhead/corridor as horror setting" Did it? Didn't the original The Thing come first? How about a certain famous zombie movie that was set basically at one farmhouse? That's just a couple of examples. "Alien invented what is now the "generic sci fi base/complex" Right.. It 'invented' soemthing that was around before it... Hmm... "The plot and concept were generic, but nothing about the execution itself was." This could be argued.

Sales are a fact that show how popular something is, NOT how good (or bad) it is. You can't be that ignorant so I'm gonna consider your post on this issue trolling.

Wrong. Sales just shows how popular a movie is not how good it is. This goes both ways. A movie being popular with the masses doesn't mean it sucksm like some cool internet geeks want us all to believe. I believe Titantic is good ebcause of its quality not its populaity. P.S. I never said Avatar sucks but is vastly overrated thanks to its deriative 'original' story. Avatar is an example of hype over substance as evidenced by most of its praise is due to its graphics not acting, wiritng, or story. Titantic (minority of punks notiwthstanding) was praised for EVERYTHING.

"Maybe we are thinking of "generic setting" differently, but to me it seems there's nothing generic about the setting(s) of the first 2 movies." Sorry, but it was a very generic setting/movie. What was so original about it? Alien/space movies like it were being made before it. That doesn't mean it sucked. Alien was a fantastic movie; but as fsr as 'originality' goes it wasn't THAT original. Most original partn of the movie was it had a kick ass female protaganist.

Coulda should woulda. Game may have had potential but it got canceled for good reason. Let the deadm lie dead. AP is where it is at.

"Titanic on our hands!" Titanic was an awesome movie that earned its money and awards through quality not hype. It's really sad that a movie like Titanic which was based on a real life event has way more originality, heart, and soul than the trashy 'original' story of Avatar. Titanic had a sueprior story, writing, acting, characters, atmosphere, music, and yes, even special effects. Nothing I've seen of Avatar will match the majesty of Da Ship Du Titanic or the sinking itself. That's how you do special effects. LONG LIVE TITANIC DEATH TO AVATAR!!!

"So not only did you buy me because real women thinks you're creepy, but your dead-end job pays so little that you had to save up for two years before you could afford it? What? No, I dont think you're a loser at all..."

"D&D must be a massive pain in the arse for developers. One the one hand you have instant brand recognition and sales." The number of sales one gets from the D&D name is rather minimal. The number of bombs for games based on D&D is quite a bit. Successful series like BG and NWN are the exception not the rule.

Because unlike NWN, BIO has made it abundantly clear that the DA modding scene is simply not important to them. And, whether people admit it or not, the DA user base will follow their lead. If the developer doesn't care why should the user base? The only reason why DA has a toolset in the first place is BIO's lame attempt to please the crybaby NWN toolset whiny fanbase. *shrug*

Good riddance to bad rubbish. Boo, and Minsc are two of the most retarded npcs I've ever seen to get the praise they get. Disgusting!

ME 2:OS DA: A ME 3: AP RSVP NHL 11

DA: gave away my 360 copy and working on the PC version. So far, I find the 360 version better. Seriously, the codex for the PC SUCKS! ME: Going through again to reach 60th level since BIO has gone the bogus route and are rewarding people for ghoing through the story with the same character. L A M E NHL 10: My league is in the S9 playoffs. Sadly, I got eliminated in the second round. BOOOOOOOOOO!!! NWN: That is all.