Meshugger
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Been trying to find data on 2015 immigration for Germany; breakdown by age, country of origin and sex. No dice, my Google-Fu is weak. Care to share the data you used to "speculate"? By the way, your projections rest on a million immigrants arriving per year, constantly for 14 years, with 100% of asylum seekers obtaining permanent resident status. You are also comparing somewhat different demographic groups (ages 15-24 vs 18-30). At any rate, I'm fairly certain that demographic forces don't obey (y = mx + n) over any significant period. But hey, what do I know... None of us do, that's why we are speculating!
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You don't say... Especially seeing as a good number of those are also from the Balkans and will, according to your own Federal Minister of Foregin Affairs, be sent right back.[1] Even so, mass migration have in the past not resulted in the mass outbreeding of the native population, especially not when both have a fairly equal standard of living. Unless you start murdering them as well of course. I'm not german. I am worried about Germany though, it has a tendency to be quite violent when cornered though.
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In this sense I'm not marxist, as I think the materiel is somewhat - immateriel. But rather that the perception of wealth is key, that being spiritual or materiel. I do not agree with the assumption that the spiritual plane is essential, but even if that was so there is a huge difference between spiritual and religious dogma. As the moral relativism (or nihilism if you're so inclined) of the west is a pretty clear indication of. In fact I'd counter argue and say that you seem to be looking at these issues with a sampling bias - trying to find evidence to support the Clash of Civilisations. I am not talking about religious dogma per se, i am talking how different cultures view themselves and act according to sense of being based on their spiritualities. In the west is is personal salvation through introspection, in the middle east it is through external action. Just look how the concepts of shame differ from another. As for clash of civilizations, there's always some strife between 'us' and 'them'. It's how we progress to begin with, we need competition and judgement.
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Dont you think it can change when they became majority? Which you predict will happen... when? In a century? Two? More? http://www.indexmundi.com/germany/demographics_profile.html There's 4,1 million males in Germany in the age group 15-24 (ethnicity unknown, but just lets say that they are all ethnical germans for the sake of the argument). This year, over a million refugees entered with 70% of them being single males in the ages 18-30. Technically speaking, you only need to 7 more years of similar immigration to reach parity with the current generation and 7 more for a generation of ethnical germans to be 1/4 of the population of the same generation. I also took into account the current numbers of germans actually decreasing (-0,14% per year). Based on those numbers, expect within a 20 years that the average "german" tourist in Budapest will greet you with "Allahu Ackbar". Just a speculation though.
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Not particular surprising, or out of line with my own observations - how does this hinder me in seeing the situation correctly? Do you think strict Legal Moralism is reserved for Muslims? Most conservative Christians will also tell you that laws should be based on Christian morality.. and not long ago the vast majority would go a lot further than that - you found similar desires for similar laws, curtailing sexuality and repressing women, also based on religious creed. How did we combat this? The answer to that question is how we successfully integrate immigrants from similar backgrounds in modern society. From what i gather, you only see it as a problem from a material point of view. Human kind will never ditch the spiritual plane as it is essential to being human in the first place. Ignoring that fact when talking about immigration from countries where the spiritual ideas are one and the same for society, just not for the individual, is an open invitation to confrontation, of which should not be ignored. But that's just beside the point in this thread. The point is that Morlocks are allowed in to create new Morlock problems on top the previous ones all while the Eloi are more busy on either covering it up or blaming other Eloi for being Morlocks. It's fascinating.
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What a coincidence, you can find the percentage of muslims favouring Sharia in the link from before, and more, and how! It's fun! It's super-awesome! It's here! http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-overview/
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I live in the most multicultural part of Denmark, smack in the middle of what most would call a "ghetto" - so I have front row to this crime - and see how utterly exaggerated it is on social media and in the news. The thing is however - it's precisely the same as when I lived in a predominately poor white neighborhood, except without the media attention. Most would say it's very marxist of me, but as a result I see it much more as a monetary and socio-economic issue than a racial or cultural one. I waging that your use of dialectic materialism hinders you to asses the situation correctly. Always a friendly reminder: http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-overview/ Meshugger you are giving the Muslim community in Western countries far too much influence Of course most Muslims would like Sharia law implemented...but that doesn't mean it will happen. In South Africa I see this all the time, South African Muslims on the various radio stations phone and indirectly suggest that No one listens to it, people are entitled to there opinion. Sharia will never become enforced in Western countries unless Muslims become the majority and change the Constitution ...and that wont happen so dont worry about that happening lol, you should be a spokeperson for immigration. But not for the right reasons.
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But lets not focus on the new Morlocks, lets see how the next generation Morlocks, who have lived their whole lives in Germany, who also by all means should have gone through the proper reconditioning supplemented by the Eloi, really think: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jD6CN6uGZs Come on man, why are you Eloi so lazy? You have just put lipstick on a pig so far. I am dissapointed
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I live in the most multicultural part of Denmark, smack in the middle of what most would call a "ghetto" - so I have front row to this crime - and see how utterly exaggerated it is on social media and in the news. The thing is however - it's precisely the same as when I lived in a predominately poor white neighborhood, except without the media attention. Most would say it's very marxist of me, but as a result I see it much more as a monetary and socio-economic issue than a racial or cultural one. I waging that your use of dialectic materialism hinders you to asses the situation correctly. Always a friendly reminder: http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-overview/
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To put it even more simple: All nations have their own Eloi and Morlocks. The number and how rowdy the Morlocks are might shift a bit, but the main point is that they are a bad bunch and we have laws, norms and code of conduct to keep them in order. Our law abiding, nice and innocent Eloi have told us that importing more Eloi's from other countries will make the host country full of more nice Eloi's who chat about different food recipies, dance moves and interesting festivals. So the great Mother of all Eloi's said that the Eloi's are all welcome. Turns out we got the Morlocks instead. So now we have a different kind of Morlocks behaving very badly in a new way which is different compared to what the our Morlocks were behaving from before and thus, we have instead a bunch of new Morlock problems not experienced before. But our Eloi refuse to believe it and actively try to say that the Morlocks are still Eloi and we are being very bad for mistaking them for being Morlocks; going so far as covering up facts about what the new Morlocks are up to, and blame our Eloi for Morlock behaviour not even conducted by our Morlocks. Many feel that bringing in the new Morlocks during summer and fall was a mistake and should be thrown out. But our Eloi do not like that and think that throwing out someone elses Morlocks makes us Morlocks even if it was our Eloi that started the mess in the first place. This story is still in development so you have to wait a while for the ending.
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Opposition to what? Aside from the conspiracy bluster they don't really say anything outside the mainstream of liberalism(in pol-sci terms). I see it as a containment forum for the chemtrails-, UFOs-, flouride in water- and etc-people out there. So /x/lite? Pretty much, there's a lot of cash to be made in that the department as well.
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Opposition to what? Aside from the conspiracy bluster they don't really say anything outside the mainstream of liberalism(in pol-sci terms). I see it as a containment forum for the chemtrails-, UFOs-, flouride in water- and etc-people out there.
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I wouldn't think it would be too radical to see them as controlled opposition. They are no threat to anyone.
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So, the police admits that they have done a cover up for political reasons. What's the difference between them and a random milita again? More importantly, why should any swede pay taxes when those safeguarding society are actively working against it?
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Now they're both dead
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That's the thing, right? If Trump become president, all those late night shows and stand-up comedians will have endless of material. Endless, i tell you.
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In order to understand what happened Cologne and in other German cities on New Years Eve, you guys should read up about an Arab phenomena called "Taharrush Gamea". http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article150813517/Das-Phaenomen-taharrush-gamea-ist-in-Deutschland-angekommen.html
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Streets of Berlin during New Years Eve I thought that the germans had banned guns.
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So, no solutions yet? The clock is ticking folks. I do not think i have to remind you on what usually happens when germans find themselves cornered, historically speaking. Somewhere, maybe now, maybe in the near future, there will be a guy in a local beer hall ranting about what should be done; and it is not solutions in terms of tolerance, but of the other kind. But instead of dismissing him as a lunatic, people who are completely fed up, will start to listen, and history will repeat itself. For example here in the north, there are already volunteer street patrols emerging, calling themselves names like "The sons of Odin" and such, which isn't exactly what i would call a positive development, but they are the natural response when people feel like they are not safe in their own streets anymore. Just saying "you must judge" will not be adequate.
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'Were' being an interesting word here, isn't it? Point is Scandinavians, Germans, Irish, Scots, Spaniards, Indians and so on and on and on... All 'were' such a" problem". If this was the 3rd century we would be lamenting those filthy Gauls. 1950? Damn negros rape and murder and will never amount to anything good. It's almost depressing how little the rethoric changes.. Yeah, i remember in the history books on how the Scandinavians in Minnesota used to blow themselves up at the market square in suicide attacks, how the Germans in Pennsylvania used behead non-believers, how the Scots in Nova Scotia used rape non-Presbyterians in good conscience supported by their fathers and leaders and how the Irish of New York used to demand pork-free food, women to be covered up and no alcohol sold. But i seem to have forgotten how it all cooled down, how they became integrated and what the name of the book was. How strange.
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Well, the current situation is that the establishment and the left have little to no answer on have manage and curb people's fears. We can all talk about better integration, education and better systems, all while people are flocking to those that simply say that they will deport everyone since it is a simple direct reaction to what people experience. For example, when you have the depute chief of the police in Helsinki saying statements like these: and ...then it is not that difficult to understand on what the fears are and why people are reacting in a negative way. So, just for the sake of the argument, ignore what i and the rest of the "refugee"-negative people on this forum think and answer what can realistically be done to prevent situations from these to become the norm? and most importantly how will this not escalate? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01TzI47fHfc
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1. What is the cause of the problem? 2. How can you effectively solve it? 3. What measures should be done, pre-emptively, to stop the same thing from happening in the future? Remember, this kind of behaviour is complete new in the modern west. Women are accustomed to be able to walk alone dressed as they please.
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Same newspaper: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/finland/12088332/Unprecedented-sex-harassment-in-Helsinki-at-New-Year-Finnish-police-report.html
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The police do not even have the resources to detain them so they are just let back on the street, according to this bounces in Cologne atleast:
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The cup is very close on runneth over.
