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The Last (Court) Battle of GamerGate: Feminists Lost, Free Speech Won
Meshugger replied to ktchong's topic in Way Off-Topic
There you go again, of course not. But it's alright, we all have our bad days, no need to push it. You're excused. -
The Last (Court) Battle of GamerGate: Feminists Lost, Free Speech Won
Meshugger replied to ktchong's topic in Way Off-Topic
No my friend unfortunately you are equally as culpable as the rest of us for the protracted and unnecessary GG campaign But Geez that last link is terrible, people still have NO idea what SJ is about...or rather I should say " SJ on the Internet" I won't go into too much detail but the initial question just highlights how misunderstood the role of SJ is...why would you ask people who you have clearly antagonized and associate the words " SJW" as an immediate insult " why dont you like SJW " You dont look for vindication in SJ campaigns ....you don't do it for that reason. And you can see from the responses those people also have a very negative view of SJ That last link is the truth of the matter of the larger culture war, but you are free to hide from it or claim that it is false as much as you wish. -
The Last (Court) Battle of GamerGate: Feminists Lost, Free Speech Won
Meshugger replied to ktchong's topic in Way Off-Topic
RANT TIME: Yeah, that's why I joined it originally. I saw this stuff first hand as a game dev. I left because that's not what it's about. Even if it used to be, it's no use even trying to discuss this on the hashtag. It gets ignored. Whenever I tried to bring the conversation back to this, the response came down to "who cares, a perpetually offended feminist said something stupid about us on twitter I should be equally perpetually offended about". Actual game talk gets consistently gets less talk than some white knight or tumblrina making nasty comments every single time. Hell, the hashtag was at its most busy when it was about a scientist's T-shirt and absolutely not about games. And the rare occassions when it finally did talk about games, it was always defending bad practices from publishers that practically abuse their game dev employees because otherwise you're "attacking gamers", taking the side of utter corporate ********s like Bethesda and UbiSoft over game devs that actually needed support. Even to most of those that claim it's about artistic freedom in games it's not really, and honestly judging by how much nonsense you have interjected about post-modernist bull**** I count you among those. Absolute tripe like Hatred doesn't become a runaway success because it has merit, but because politics. #GamerGate injects more arm-chair politics into gaming than feminists were ever able to, and companies are using it to promote games consumer lifestyle, not a promotion of game merit. Instead of paying GameSpot for Mountain Dew and Doritos ads, they've leveraged angry nerds to make viral memes about it while they pretend everyone else is a sheep. You can "no true scotsman" those "e-celebs" as much as you want, but guess what, they and their followers are the movement's majority and they think you're no true scotsman. And with them overflowing comment sections everywhere to the point comment sections in gaming media are going extinct, they're more annoying and pervasive than SJW tumblrinas could ever hope to be. BasedGamer was the only good thing to come out of #GamerGate. The peepz behind that were smart in leveraging nerd rage for a good cause - killing metacritic, a tool highly abused by feminists and #GamerGate to bury and destroy anything that had a wiff of "badthink" about it, instead of on its own merit. That didn't make much sense, but seeing as you seem quite angry, I will forgive you. -
The Last (Court) Battle of GamerGate: Feminists Lost, Free Speech Won
Meshugger replied to ktchong's topic in Way Off-Topic
Speaking of Anita, she is quitting: https://archive.is/pZvPr I wonder what her Kickstarter supporters think of her not living up to her original commitments? Finally, you guys seems to be confused. eCelebs using GamerGate to instill their opinions about anything and saying it is abouth GG does not make it so. But hey, if that makes it feel better about sitting on your high horses of neutrality and talks about sides, then be my guest. In reality, there's only right and wrong and anti-GG is simply is that. Wrong. It's quite simple really. Want games to be free from outside influence in terms of creativity? Want games to be critized and reviewed completely on their own merit? Want games not to be subjected to the politics of the day by arm-chair academics? Want games just to be games. Good, then you're pro-GamerGate, as that was all that the scandal was about. Outside idiots who hates games and thinking that they can decide what gaming should be about were outed and laughed out of the industry. This little post describes it much better than i ever could, as the very same kind of people and ideas went into gaming: http://i.imgur.com/gFB0CQ8.png -
The Last (Court) Battle of GamerGate: Feminists Lost, Free Speech Won
Meshugger replied to ktchong's topic in Way Off-Topic
(not)GamerGate aside, i am happy that the guy was acquited. It serves as a precedent that free speech rules over your feelz. -
Also to be honest they know that to mishandle or or try to rape women is wrong, I have travelled in many ME countries and I don't remember any significant issues with rape or ubiquitous examples of abuse of women similar to this This is necessary because they just don't have much respect for Western women and have a certain level of contempt for them This needs to change very quickly Western, non-islamic women, and to extension society at large, are considered open season. They are simply Morlocks.
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Evil is a man made construct., I dont believe is such things If evil is only a man made construct then it implies that there is no objective morality or axioms to adhere to, which in turn implies that relativistic morality is the only one appliable, which in turn leads to subjective discourse in terms of justice and truth; since those are based on the moral pretences already stated, which leads to atrocious acts being permitted as long as they are confined with their own sense of morality, which finally leads to power for the sake of power being its own moral justification. Yup, sounds like Clinton alright.
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A good article, a great article. http://theweek.com/articles/599577/how-obscure-adviser-pat-buchanan-predicted-wild-trump-campaign-1996
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Notice which two major candidates who are not on the list.
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^Don't worry, 18 000 people have already arrived at the island of Lesbos in Greece. The amount last year 752, so there's a lot more to come.
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By targeting singular person that has accused to done something that should prevent him to come in UK instead of putting in general ban for all Americans for example? EDIT: Is this you saying that you don't support any form of bans for any people when it comes to matters of immigration? Or are you just saying that it is choice between no bans or banning whole groups of people? I was trying to use sarcasm to point out the irony of the situation. In other news: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-01-21/trump-fear-stalks-davos-as-elite-pray-for-spring-reality-check The World economic forum in Davos seems to fear Trump. Oh, those poor global elites.
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Banning Trump from the UK would certainly show him that he is wrong on immigration.
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http://mic.com/articles/132961/bernie-sanders-just-opened-up-his-most-massive-lead-yet-in-new-hampshire#.GFkXADirD itshappening.gif
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Well it's not like the wall would mean no more trade between us and Mexico. It doesn't seem odd to spend billions of dollars building a fence between us and someone we do a tremendous amount of business with? How much money do we think we will save by building this 2,000 mile long barrier? Of course, Trump also wants Mexico to foot the bill, which sounds insane. I just don't see how anyone can justify this in economic terms. http://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/09/this-is-what-trumps-border-wall-could-cost-us.html I know it's not breitbart, so WoD won't trust it. Shush now, here you're sitting in the front row of the greatest show on earth, the US, and worrying about small things when there's greatness at the horizon. Athens had its Acropolis, Rome had its Colosseum and China had its Great Wall; now it is your turn. Let the God Emperor build his Wall and you will be part of history in the making.
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While The Eagles is probably not my favourite group to listen to, I do have to give credit Glenn Frey for shaping that 80's sound that we all know and love: R.I.P.
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...and in some good news about foreigners immigrating to Europe: http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2016/jan/11/steven-seagal-serbian-citizenship-martial-arts-school
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LOL. Do you even have the faintest idea about the causes behind that conflict? Oh, i do not mean that the Shias will get more weapons or man-power, i mean that the Saudis will increase their presence there and other places where they and their allies on one side, and Iran and their allies on the other; as in more Proxy wars. Meanwhile the militray industrial complex and their bankers are counting their coppers on the whole thing. It's interesting on what will happen now when even more oil will be available on the market. Perhaps the petrodollar will lose more influence?
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Seriously, stop. At this point it's abundantly clear you aren't even remotely interested in facts, not even those from the sources you provide yourself: IBTimes: The Newsweek piece: The article also discusses harsher measures by Canada and Australia but that doesn't matter because they aren't Yurop. It also mentions the cluster**** that is the EU due to having a million different laws, security services and watchlists. Nothing new here. The only fact-based argument remotely resembling the picture you've been painting is with the "Aarhus approach", but that's a) in Denmark, not Netherlands and b) only for people who haven't committed crimes, as per the IBTimes link which you obviously didn't bother reading completely. Yeah, enforcing laws is usually a priority of governments. At least with the small fish and blue-collar criminals. Besides, the guy in Netherlands has been released, even though he has to report to the judge weekly and cannot leave the country. You blew this out of proportion to make it a sort of cultural priority across all of Europe, which is ridiculous. The key-words in those articles is that there's a lot "will, should've, could've"-s, but when it is someone fighting against ISIS there's suddenly the time and resources available for an investigation. Sorry, but my point still stands, when someone is fighting against these people compared to the security threat of ISIS-fighters possibly returning through legal or illegal means to your country, you better have your priorities straight. Instead we all the same kind of people falling over themselves (hellooo media) on how to forgive and integrate when it is the different kind fighters. "But hey, at least you've made me waste a good 30 minutes on your links (bonus points for including some behind a paywall) and writing the reply, and it's not the first time. That was the goal, wasn't it?" You know better than to lie about such matters, it's never wasted time to try argue about someone else being wrong on the Internet
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That's not how it works around here my friend. You have to tell us what YOU think of Donald Trump...... Then we flame you! Oh come on! Data-mining bots have feelings too, you know.
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Exactly, that's my point i am making.
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Are we talking about Finland or Netherlands now? Are you aware that different countries have different laws? You tell me how many native European IS fighters have returned to their respective countries and are living the high life off the teat of the gov't instead of facing prosecution, since it's you making that claim. Perhaps if you have concrete evidence that Finns have been indeed fighting with IS you should contact the Finnish police. Evidence, mate. Not "speculation". edit: "contintents", lol Nobody knows for sure how many have returned. There's only estimates by various national security agencies on how many have left, which is about 7500 at the moment. http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-32026985 http://uk.businessinsider.com/700-germans-are-fighting-for-isis-and-the-number-of-women-joining-keeps-growing-2015-6?r=US&IR=T The finnish authorities estimate that 100 have left and a handful has returned and are monitored for the time being. Anyhow, that wasn't the point that is was making, it was about the leniency people in politics and media have about these people, and choosing what values to endorse and to prioritize: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/denmark-isis-fighters-warmly-welcome-home-by-psychiatrists-1470546 http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.676/sweden-to-reward-returning-isis-jihadists.html http://europe.newsweek.com/returning-isis-fighters-forgiveness-or-punishment-294497?rm=eu A sane human being wouldn't opening cases on people fighting against ISIS as a top priority. Your links only mention about 1400 people from Germany and the UK had possibly joined ISIS The 7500 number is for the number of German people who sympathize with ISIS, yes people joining ISIS is an issue and that is something we need to be concerned about but we need to keep this in perspective My bad and the wrong link to boot. Here it is http://www.rferl.org/contentinfographics/foreign-fighters-syria-iraq-is-isis-isil-infographic/26584940.html
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Are we talking about Finland or Netherlands now? Are you aware that different countries have different laws? You tell me how many native European IS fighters have returned to their respective countries and are living the high life off the teat of the gov't instead of facing prosecution, since it's you making that claim. Perhaps if you have concrete evidence that Finns have been indeed fighting with IS you should contact the Finnish police. Evidence, mate. Not "speculation". edit: "contintents", lol Nobody knows for sure how many have returned. There's only estimates by various national security agencies on how many have left, which is about 7500 at the moment. http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-32026985 http://uk.businessinsider.com/700-germans-are-fighting-for-isis-and-the-number-of-women-joining-keeps-growing-2015-6?r=US&IR=T The finnish authorities estimate that 100 have left and a handful has returned and are monitored for the time being. Anyhow, that wasn't the point that is was making, it was about the leniency people in politics and media have about these people, and choosing what values to endorse and to prioritize: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/denmark-isis-fighters-warmly-welcome-home-by-psychiatrists-1470546 http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.676/sweden-to-reward-returning-isis-jihadists.html http://europe.newsweek.com/returning-isis-fighters-forgiveness-or-punishment-294497?rm=eu A sane human being wouldn't opening cases on people fighting against ISIS as a top priority.
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Expect higher insurgency in Yemen to the point of the Saudis outright invading, just saying.
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Apples and oranges much? Fighting foreign wars unless you are integrated in a foreign country's military is hairy business. If you are a national of a country where it's illegal to get involved in a conflict your country isn't a party in, you are obviously going to face consequences. Not to mention that the PKK is a terrorist organization according to the EU. On the other hand, generally you cannot try foreigners for fighting in a civil war in their own country, though in some cases they may be charged with war crimes, being part of terrorist organizations, etc. Netherlands is a part of the US-led coalition to take out IS, but there has been no declaration of war, and therefore its status as a party in the Syrian civil war is unclear, though I'm guessing the government would say they aren't. Hypocrisy in foreign affairs, news at 11. BTW, who are these former IS fighters that are being "rehabilitated" instead of facing prosecution? Where was this discussed and by whom? Or is this also "speculation"? Seriously, you are playing so fast and loose it's not even funny. How many ISIS-fighters have returned to their respective countries on the continent? How many have been arrested for murder for what they did in Syria? For example, two refugees in Finland are currently arrested under the very said suspicion so far, but nothing has been done on finnish nationals who have returned yet. Those people are simply being monitored according the police. In other news, a new tradition has been embraced in Dortmund, the stoning of transsexuals: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B_mZTgm8MQ
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Making sure that country's own citizens follow its laws is bad? It is quite normal that we don't let people without official authority hunt and especially not kill criminals. Of course we can't talk should there be exception for criminal and terrorist organisations like ISIS and should there be criminal process for crimes that are done outside of country's borders, but then we also need to take account what if for example war criminal comes in the country what then and so on . With priorities i referred to the discussion among politicians and media figures how one should "rehabilitate" people coming back from fighting with ISIS. At least the British simply revoke their passports if that happens. Here on the continent however...
