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will wait and see. got burned with the recent hype around sword coast legends, which turned out to be a turd.

 

there is some hope with CA, but I will wait for a gameplay before I will make any judgement.

 

Feels like Obs missed some opportunity, on the other hand I like PoE and Tyranny, and I hope these will thrive.

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Thoughts?

I was sure this was going to be Obsidians thing :(

kingmaker is an existing pathfinder adventure series.  

 

http://paizo.com/pathfinder/adventurePath/kingmaker

 

for those curious

 

too many questions to be anticipating. there were a couple better-than-good adventures in the pnp series.

 

however, am (not genuinely) surprised. given the paizo-obsidian partnership announcement some time ago, the news o' a crpg pathfinder game not being developed by obsidian is... curious.

 

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As few of you before, I am cautious after Sword Coast Legends. Especially, when I know, that Kingmaker is one of the most complex Adventure Paths by Paizo...

 

And I am also cautious about the cooperation with My.com

 

And still no words about Real Time or Turn Based combat. I might be in minority, but I somehow can't imagine Pathfinder beimg anythig else than Turn Based game :-/

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My guess (based on nothing at all) is that My.com owns Owlcat

 

I'm not sure I'd give the first Pathfinder game to a brand new Russian studio but I guess that's why I don't get to make these kinds of decisions 

 

Keeping expectations very low for this as I'd rather be pleasantly surprised than horribly disappointed 

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As few of you before, I am cautious after Sword Coast Legends. Especially, when I know, that Kingmaker is one of the most complex Adventure Paths by Paizo...

 

And I am also cautious about the cooperation with My.com

 

And still no words about Real Time or Turn Based combat. I might be in minority, but I somehow can't imagine Pathfinder beimg anythig else than Turn Based game :-/

It's real time with pause.

 

Seems that Obsidian aen't getting projects that I think they should get, but I know nothing about video game business.

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I wonder if they just didn't have a team available to do it

 

Seems weird to have some random company doing it after they had that Pathfinder survey

 

 

Edit- The Codex has more info with a few links

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My guess (based on nothing at all) is that My.com owns Owlcat

 

I'm not sure I'd give the first Pathfinder game to a brand new Russian studio but I guess that's why I don't get to make these kinds of decisions 

 

Keeping expectations very low for this as I'd rather be pleasantly surprised than horribly disappointed 

 

Its in the press release that Owlcat is owned by My.com.

 

 

 

About Owlcat Games

Owlcat Games is a video game developer. The studio was founded in 2016 as a part of pilot initiative of My.com. The team is led by veteran game designers behind Heroes of Might and Magic V, Silent Storm, Etherlords, Evil Islands: Curse of the Lost Soul and other games. Team members also took part in the development of popular MMO titles, Allods Online and Skyforge. The first project unveiled by Owlcat Games is Pathfinder: Kingmaker, an isometric computer RPG based on the highly popular Pathfinder pen-and-paper roleplaying game by Paizo Inc.

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kingmaker is an existing pathfinder adventure series.  

 

http://paizo.com/pathfinder/adventurePath/kingmaker

 

for those curious

 

too many questions to be anticipating. there were a couple better-than-good adventures in the pnp series.

 

While I was aware of the kingmaker AP, I wonder why they took exactly this one, given that it's very much like a sandbox afaik, in complete contrast to most of the other ones. I'm also wondering where there is a need for a lead writer when they will most likely just implement the AP. Unless there are huge additions in terms of content, what will avellone exactly contribute to an already existing storyline?

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I take it they're drawing from the rulebooks for the companions like Amiri and Lem?

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kingmaker is an existing pathfinder adventure series.  

 

http://paizo.com/pathfinder/adventurePath/kingmaker

 

for those curious

 

too many questions to be anticipating. there were a couple better-than-good adventures in the pnp series.

 

While I was aware of the kingmaker AP, I wonder why they took exactly this one, given that it's very much like a sandbox afaik, in complete contrast to most of the other ones. I'm also wondering where there is a need for a lead writer when they will most likely just implement the AP. Unless there are huge additions in terms of content, what will avellone exactly contribute to an already existing storyline?

 

 

Dialogue, for one.

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in the spirit o' full disclosure

 

http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/66652-pathfinder-crpg-by-obsidian/?p=1477353

 

we were always reserved 'bout the long term prospects o' the paizo-obsidian deal.

 

also, just as we criticized troika for making toee, am concerned 'bout kingmaker in spite o' the fact we like the series.

 

http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/66652-pathfinder-crpg-by-obsidian/?p=1476523

 

even so, while our personal anticipation for toee were slight, we saw the potential business upside for atari.  toee were 'posed to be the first release o' a series o' streamlined d&d crpgs based 'pon classic tsr modules.  were 'posed to be quick developments.  troika... altered the plan.  am wondering if the old atari plan is being reinvigorated with a different developer.

 

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It's going to be interesting to see how development takes shape. I'll be watching from afar but probably not following its every move.

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Helping with the narrative == consultant. Unless Avellone is the director, it might be missable. I guess it really depends on who the director is; Avellone had a supporting role in Mask of The Betrayer, and that was as good as P:T.

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Well, I'll keep an eye on it and we'll see how it's shaping up closer to the finish line.  I guess my attitude toward this is cautiously optimistic.

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It's real time with pause.

 

 

Seems that Obsidian aen't getting projects that I think they should get, but I know nothing about video game business.

 

 

They don't have a team to work on it though, not to mention an another fantasy setting right now would be an overkill as they already have Tyranny DLC's and Pillars 2 coming up.

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Excited about Avellone being involved, just concerned about the studio not having any experience. There have been some rather dodgy rpg's released recently by some small relatively unknown studios. The dwarves and Sword Coast come to mind.  I certainly don't have any high expectations even if CA is involved. Just hope he doesn't destroy his reputation over this.

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Excited about Avellone being involved, just concerned about the studio not having any experience. There have been some rather dodgy rpg's released recently by some small relatively unknown studios. The dwarves and Sword Coast come to mind.  I certainly don't have any high expectations even if CA is involved. Just hope he doesn't destroy his reputation over this.

 

What reputation? He seems to work on any game that he is asked to work on at this point. His career at the moment seems to be more of a glorified KS stretch goal than an actual narrative designer.

I would love him to focus on a project or two, instead of writing for multiple games at once. Then I could actually expect something from a game he is working on, instead of wondering how little work he actually did on the project and how he was paid and used to get some name recognition for the game. 

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I find this news very interesting because I'm a big fan of the Pathfinder world as well as 3.5 edition D&D, but I do wonder about the reputation (or lack thereof) of the developer. And I do think Obsidian is making a big mistake by walking away from doing a Pathfinder cRPG themselves, though I applaud them for not standing in the way of Paizo going to someone else.

 

As for the game being "generic," yeah maybe so except for one thing. The press release makes a big point of emphasizing the game as being not just a standard isometric party-based cRPG but also equally a "kingdom-builder" game. This is the aspect of the game that I am most attracted to as I LOVE kingdom/empire-builder games in high-fantasy/medieval settings. This aspect of this game does give it a unique/different dimension and separates it from the crowd.

 

I'm keeping my expectations contained, but I'm also vigorously rooting for its success.

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