The 'Sidian Tyranny thread

[Chairchucker]

OK update I finished. It still owns but it was a little annoying that my planned rebel alliance run got subverted into NO GODS NO MASTERS when my allies were upset with my life choices. Specifically, my bias against

infanticide

.

 

Now doing a Path of the Damned Scarlet Chorus full plate run, because it was kind of annoying having all that heavy armour and no one to wear it.

 

EDIT: Oh right, that's how they do spoilers on this board, well that's dumb.

Edited November 15, 2016 by Chairchucker

[Heijoushin]

Don't know if this is the right place for a Tyranny post, but here goes...

 

I've just bought the game, so I haven't seem much yet, but here's what's standing out already:

 

The selling point for Tyranny is that there's no cheesy "Good vs Evil" plot, right? You play a morally grey Fatebinder who must make decisions with no clear right answers. Sounds good so far. But then you have the two factions, the Scarlet Chorus and the Disfavored, who sort of represent "Chaos vs. Order" (and virtually ever in-game decision seems to affect your reputation with these groups) Now, okay, Chaos vs. Order might be a little more interesting than Good vs Evil, because both can be toxic is large amounts. Too much Chaos, and you get a savage world where the strong bully the weak. Too much Order, and you get a totalitarian society where people have no freedom.

 

However, it kind of disappoints me that they abandon the old Good vs Evil dynamic just to put in another blatantly obvious BINARY system.

We went from this:

 

A mongrel accosts your hero in the street. What will you do?

a) Save the dog (good)

b) Kick the dog (evil)

 

To this:

 

A mongrel accosts your hero in the street. What will you do?

a) Slay the foul beastie for the glory of Group A!

b) Recruit the foul beastie for the prosperity of Group B!

 

It's still just a blatantly obvious binary system! Is this really progress? What do you guys think?

Edited November 15, 2016 by Heijoushin

[sorophx]

 

Man, what would people do without YouTube?

 

Use their brain?

we can't all be smart like you 

[ShadySands]

You were probably just overthinking it

 

I thought the puzzles were more complicated than they ended up being the first time I played it too

[Fenixp]

Oh no, sorophx really just isn't as smart as us. It's rather tragic, but there's nothing we can do about this but help him out with the puzzles.

[Tale]

If you think the entire game is just choosing between the Scarlet Chorus and the Disfavored, then you're jumping to conclusions terribly early.

[Nonek]

Worked for Moorc*ck (I detest this filter,) though he also had the balance and the state of metaphysical freedom that Tanelorn/the Grail represented.

[demeisen]

I'm playing PotD and it feels harder to me than PoE was on PotD, but I suspect that's mostly because I don't know what I'm doing yet, and I'm playing spoiler-free.  The challenge is just about right for me right now, which is nice, but I'm not sure that'll hold for repeated plays.

 

Combat gets a little better as you go along and gain more abilities, but... it still feels like they oversimplified it.  Maybe a mod to bring back FF and flanking would help here.

 

I'm liking the setting, the writing, and the art.  It's a well imagined world, and they did a nice job of capturing the "feel" of a world in this situation.  Obsidian seems to do writing and art really well.

 

Missing my other two party members

[sorophx]

there's nothing we can do about this but help him out with the puzzles.

Yes! 

 

blaming designers for our shortcomings 

I only blame the designers for the combat encounters and dungeon layout. like I said, I didn't see the door because it was behind the Fog of War and the only way of spotting it was by accident. naturally, without knowing there were other doors on that level I thought I didn't solve the "puzzle" correctly.

 

Doesn't matter now, since I won't be playing Tyranny any more. 

[ShadySands]

Ran into another bug and can't complete the Language of the Ancients quest at the Burning Library. I've done everything and the quest says to return to the quest giver and after I go through the convo nothing happens, quest doesn't update or complete.

[marelooke]

The color puzzles? Different colors activate different switches. You can just try them all since there is never more than 3 (4 for the very last puzzle) colors except for the ones what want the torchkeys from other dungeons but even then it's still SSDD and even then it's extra areas and side quests

 

PS the ones that require multiple colors in a certain order also give hints on some loot drops but even here you can just try all combos

 

Colour based puzzles? Does that mean game over for colour-impaired people like me?

[sorophx]

nah, each color has a glyph associated with it, and when you set the right one you will be notified by a visual or sound cue that it did something

[HoonDing]

"Man, what would people do without YouTube?"

 

In the really old days you needed to call a special number.

[ShadySands]

I actually remember the Nintendo Power Line

 

Never called it because we didn't have a phone but that takes me back

[ShadySands]

Finished second run but going to hold off for some patches before diving back in

[Orogun01]

So Kyros is a woman, that explains why everything seems like a feminist post-utopia.

[Llyranor]

 

The color puzzles? Different colors activate different switches. You can just try them all since there is never more than 3 (4 for the very last puzzle) colors except for the ones what want the torchkeys from other dungeons but even then it's still SSDD and even then it's extra areas and side quests

 

PS the ones that require multiple colors in a certain order also give hints on some loot drops but even here you can just try all combos

 

Colour based puzzles? Does that mean game over for colour-impaired people like me?

 

There is a color-blind mode in the options.

[Chairchucker]

So Kyros is a woman, that explains why everything seems like a feminist post-utopia.

 

Not exactly.

[Orogun01]

 

So Kyros is a woman, that explains why everything seems like a feminist post-utopia.

 

Not exactly.

 

Yeah got to that part now, looks like joked too soon.

[Tale]

Vague, but putting in spoilers just to be nice.

 

 

I'm pretty sure that burned a bridge with my ally. Or napalmed that bridge. Or nuked it, would that be more accurate? Fascinating how much damage can be done with a pillow.

 

[ShadySands]

You monster

[Mamoulian War]

 

 

...can you execute her in a sufficiently painful and messy way for her insolence?

You can do something far worse to her.

Talk to her about SJW issues? :-O That's cruel indeed!

[Rosbjerg]

Vague, but putting in spoilers just to be nice.

 

 

I'm pretty sure that burned a bridge with my ally. Or napalmed that bridge. Or nuked it, would that be more accurate? Fascinating how much damage can be done with a pillow.

 

 

I was so into my lawful evil playthrough that I didn't even flinch when I had to do that - more like resignated scoff. 'How selfish' I thought... oh well, better make it right.

[Tale]

They fixed the trading cards and now I have 3 Bariks.

 

Speak up if you want to trade, because I'm selling my duplicates tomorrow.

[Gorgon]

 

 

A warewolf joined my party, or 'beastman', whatevs. They made the mistake of telling the voice actor to try and sound like an animal, and I'm getting a kid's TV vibe rather than scary supernatural beast. It's also a bit weird to hear her use terms like 'Alpha' and 'Beta'. It's breaking the fourth wall. She could have said 'leader' instead of 'Alpha', she isn't supposed to know  terms used in behavioral studies of animal packs. 

 

Other than that, having a blast.