Coup or attempted coup in Turkey

[Volourn]

" when Erdogan is much much worse than Putin ever was, especially to his own people... "

 

Kididng right? Putin mass murdrs his citizaens. He sends his soldiers to toehr coutnries to die, claims they never went, and then makes sure the fmailies  either shupt or disseappear. He  destroys ANY Russians who try to oppose him. Putin is a piece of crap. Erdopgan isd scum but so is Putin. Scum is scum.

 

 

 "Putin decided to take Crimea. An illegal act, but what have west expected? You can corner bear only so long, until he freaks out..."

 

L0L This says it all. You defend Putin's actions even while saying it was illegal. (LO9L)

[Drowsy Emperor]

" when Erdogan is much much worse than Putin ever was, especially to his own people... "

 

Kididng right? Putin mass murdrs his citizaens. He sends his soldiers to toehr coutnries to die, claims they never went, and then makes sure the fmailies  either shupt or disseappear. He  destroys ANY Russians who try to oppose him. Putin is a piece of crap. Erdopgan isd scum but so is Putin. Scum is scum.

 

 

 "Putin decided to take Crimea. An illegal act, but what have west expected? You can corner bear only so long, until he freaks out..."

 

L0L This says it all. You defend Putin's actions even while saying it was illegal. (LO9L)

 

Where do you get this rubbish from? Russian soldiers in Ukraine were almost exclusively volunteers barring some of the officer cadre. Putin hasn't "made their families shut up or disappear", only their (the soldier's) funerals were kept quiet to downplay Russia's role in Ukraine.

In Syria there wasn't even any subterfuge.

 

Mass murdering his citizens? Please.  The only assassination that can credibly be attributed to the Russian government is the defector FSB agent in London that was ****ting on the Russian government (as only UK based defectors can) until they made him drink a nuka-cola.

 

Everything you wrote is absolute nonsense that even patently anti-Russian publications like, for example, Foreign Affairs wouldn't write.

Edited July 24, 2016 by Drowsy Emperor

[Chilloutman]

wait wait, i thought that Putin admited that there were soldiers on Crimea by his command

[Fighter]

wait wait, i thought that Putin admited that there were soldiers on Crimea by his command

 

I think people see that as a separate event from war in Donbass.

Edited July 24, 2016 by Fighter

[Darkpriest]

So now they've arrested over 40 journalists - yay Turkey, Yay democracy

[Drowsy Emperor]

wait wait, i thought that Putin admited that there were soldiers on Crimea by his command

 

Not initially, but he didn't really have to considering the Russian naval base there.

[Hassat Hunter]

Not allowed to have death penalty if part of EU?

Turkey never should have been allowed as EU member. But then the refugee crisis happened the EU helped creating... and they were so incompetant that they couldn't solve it so like true ball-less leaders they just swalled their utter lack of morals and led Turkey solve their **** (they can't solve) in return for a possible entry to the EU, just waving away all those many thousands of reasons Turkey never should have become part of it.

 

EU-incompetance and obvious deadcall... CHECK.

 

I doubt a deathpenalty would change anything since then they would actually have to man up and solve something themselves rather than pushing it forward (Greece) or just paying other people to sloppily solve it for them (Turkey).

[Hassat Hunter]

L0L This says it all. You defend Putin's actions even while saying it was illegal. (LO9L)

The EU and rest of the world don't have much problem with an interim government (so one without power to decide) sending out the army to kill people in the East of Ukraine (illegal AND inhumane). But considering the government only came due to a EU-supported coup I suppose that was to be expected.

 

Say shame about the Russia's annexation but your own little landplotting is a-okay. Even when it caused giant global wars like IS.

[Volourn]

"your own little landplotting"

 

My own? ARE YOU HIGH?

[obyknven]

" when Erdogan is much much worse than Putin ever was, especially to his own people... "

 

Kididng right? Putin mass murdrs his citizaens. He sends his soldiers to toehr coutnries to die, claims they never went, and then makes sure the fmailies  either shupt or disseappear. He  destroys ANY Russians who try to oppose him. Putin is a piece of crap. Erdopgan isd scum but so is Putin. Scum is scum.

 

 

 "Putin decided to take Crimea. An illegal act, but what have west expected? You can corner bear only so long, until he freaks out..."

 

L0L This says it all. You defend Putin's actions even while saying it was illegal. (LO9L)

Deus Irae of Ukrainians detected

[obyknven]

Leader of NATO country don't trust to Muricans Ukrainians.

[HoonDing]

Shortest way on a spherical surface isn't a straight line.

[Zoraptor]

Yeah, it is. Or close enough for such a flightpath. He's wrong anyway, but not for that reason.

 

(blah blah 'Oblate spheroid' blah blah projection blah blah Mercator blah blah stretches latitude bands to match the equator's width little distortion of longitude blah blah. And Ukrainian airspace being closed to Russian bound flights is the actual reason Erdogan diverted anyway)

[teknoman2]

there was a massacre in a wedding in Turkey and the first thing that came to mind was "were they playing the rains of kashamere?". sometimes i think that if i was not good under the black humor exterior, i would be the joker.

[Lexx]

I like how in this terror attack, Erdogan immediately blamed the IS, while when non-kurdish people get killed in a terror attack, it was obviously done by kurds.

[Zoraptor]

To be fair, he'd be more or less right. It isn't the Kurds attacking themselves, but most attacks in Turkey are PKK (or their splinter group/ 'splinter group' TAK) rather than ISIS. TAK even uses suicide bombers, though both Kurdish groups attack the military or state apparatus primarily and don't go for solely civilian targets like a wedding.

[obyknven]

Turkey (after Russia n promising of support) invade Syria and Murica backstab Kurds immediately.

http://www.intellinews.com/turkey-us-led-coalition-forces-launch-operation-against-islamic-state-in-northern-syria-104628/?source=turkey

 

 

The Turkish military supported by warplanes from the US-led coalition launched an operation at 4am on August 24 to clear the town of Jarablus, in Northern Syria

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2016/08/24/Kurds-could-lose-support-if-they-don-t-retreat-says-Biden.html

 

 

US Vice President Joe Biden called on Syrian Kurdish forces to “move back across the Euphrates River,” at a joint press conference with Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yildirim in Ankara on Wednesday, warning them they will lose US support if they don’t.

 

after this Russia begin trolling everyone.

http://www.mid.ru/ru/foreign_policy/news/-/asset_publisher/cKNonkJE02Bw/content/id/2407299?p_p_id=101_INSTANCE_cKNonkJE02Bw&_101_INSTANCE_cKNonkJE02Bw_languageId=en_GB

 

 

Comment by the Information and Press Department on the escalation of tensions on the Syrian-Turkish border

In the morning of August 24, Turkey announced the start of a military operation in neighbouring Syria. Media outlets have reported that Turkish tanks and troops, including special forces, entered Syria in a joint operation with the allied Syrian opposition groups. According to Ankara, the operation has been launched to combat ISIS and Kurdish rebels.

Moscow is seriously concerned by the developments on the Syrian-Turkish border, and is especially alarmed by the prospect that the situation in the conflict zone will continue to deteriorate, resulting in greater civilian losses and heightened ethnic tensions between Arabs and Kurds.

We firmly believe that the Syrian crisis can be settled exclusively on the solid foundation of international law through an inclusive intra-Syrian dialogue involving all ethnic and religious groups, including the Kurds, and based on the June 30, 2012 Geneva Communique, as well as UN Security Council resolutions, including Resolution 2254, initiated by the International Syria Support Group.

Bingo! 

[Zoraptor]

500th anniversary of Ottoman Turkey invading/ annexing Syria from the Mamelukes (well, Battle of Dabiq at least) is today. Erdogan has a sense of dramatic irony, I'll give him that.

[Volourn]

"US Vice President Joe Biden called on Syrian Kurdish forces to “move back across the Euphrates River,” at a joint press conference with Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yildirim in Ankara on Wednesday, warning them they will lose US support if they don’t."

 

 

 

 

 

 

Obama and Biden show how EVIL theya re.

[obyknven]

Turkey stronk! Turkey beat ISIS!

 

 

but Kurds start offensive also and clashes between Turkish military forces and Kurds are begin.

 

 Everything as planned in Kremlin.

[Lexx]

"US Vice President Joe Biden called on Syrian Kurdish forces to “move back across the Euphrates River,” at a joint press conference with Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yildirim in Ankara on Wednesday, warning them they will lose US support if they don’t." Obama and Biden show how EVIL theya re.

 

I've read about this. The US needs to be diplomatic with Turkey, and if the Kurds advance any further, they could get too strong, which is something Erdogan obviously doesn't want. Therefore US now tries to side a little bit with the turks to get a saying in other potential issues (for example, not giving out Gülen).

 

Trying to stop the Kurds is most likely the real reason for the recent attacks on the IS.

Edited August 26, 2016 by Lexx

[Zoraptor]

It's definitely the real reason for the 'attacks' on ISIS. Jarablus was actually empty when they invaded, ISIS had already left. Seriously, the invasion had two casualties- both from an RTA.

 

Gotta love the US response though, hundreds of YPG dead taking Manbij and they're supposed to just give it to the people who have spent the last year+ attacking Kurds in Afrin and Sheikh Maksood, then they're supposed to go off and spend hundreds more lives attacking Raqqa for the US. Raqqa being near completely unimportant to the Kurds.

[Zoraptor]

2 Turkish tanks destroyed near Jarablus (w/ video proof) and perhaps two more as well. One tank pretty much definitively took the crew with it as well since it cooked off spectacularly. Theoretically the YPG has withdrawn and it's the other members of the SDF fighting, but I don't think anyone really believes it. Lots of rumours of Russians giving them ATGMs and the US withdrawing all support swirling round.

[Chippy]

According to Brigitte Gabriel (great deal of respect for that lady) the coup would have been a good thing...

[obyknven]

Turkey Stronk!

 

Turkish army continue their  offense to Manjib - US cut all support to Kurdish allies and  calmly watch how they die.

http://youtu.be/fkgEZ85BZBo

 

What the point of this story? The point is simple - never trust to Murikans.