Calax Posted June 5, 2016 Posted June 5, 2016 (edited) Fimmel is completely unlikeable in the movie. And I get the comparison - like I said in the movie thread, the orc half seems like a modern, grand and sweeping fantasy story while the human half looks like 80's sword and sorcery stuff. It's an uneven movie, I'd think it was worth about 60% on Rotten Tomatoes. Realistically, if you're going to do a warcraft movie "right" it needs to be two movies. One for the Horde, the other for the Alliance. Otherwise you're looking at the Avengers... where Avengers 2 is happening between cuts. Admittedly I haven't seen this movie, but the few complaints I've looked at so far (been out of touch for a week) have been that it's jam packed. It does help that Robert Kazinsky (Doomhammer) plays WoW religiously (He raids on an Orc Death Knight), at least it helps with my view for the movie. The big thing we've always seen is that in a lot of these "property" movies, either it's somebody who really loves the property who makes something to celebrate that property... or they're just doing a job and the property is stuck on there for the sake of money (Deadpool vs Xmen Origins Wolverine) Edited June 5, 2016 by Calax Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off.
Blarghagh Posted June 5, 2016 Posted June 5, 2016 Director Duncan Jones is also a hardcore fan. But yeah, it's extremely jam packed. Scenes that are supposed to have an emotional core are bogged down with exposition. @Barti: You're right, but I actually didn't mean it as in "this would get a 6 out of 10 from me" but more like movies like this generally get 60% on Rotten Tomatoes. There's something else at work here, possibly that weird dislike critics have of anything video games.
Longknife Posted June 5, 2016 Posted June 5, 2016 Well, as Overwatch was mentioned - http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-05-27-is-blizzard-scrubbing-the-internet-of-overwatch-porn lolwhy though? It seems like free publicity. Granted it's free publicity in a strange manner, but it's still publicity. The only explanation I can think of is that their target demographic does involve people under 13 to some degree, so they don't want parents coming across OW porn and thinking "yeah can't have my kid playing that." "The Courier was the worst of all of them. The worst by far. When he died the first time, he must have met the devil, and then killed him." Is your mom hot? It may explain why guys were following her ?
Hurlshort Posted June 5, 2016 Posted June 5, 2016 I'm curious if Disney does the same. I'd imagine they do.
Calax Posted June 5, 2016 Posted June 5, 2016 I'm curious if Disney does the same. I'd imagine they do. I think, as long as it's confined to it's own corner of the internet, they (and others) ignore it. If it gets to rampant they come down on it. I mean, Esurance had to change their mascot because there was just so many metric tons of porn created from Erin Esurance (with really really really bad puns) Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off.
Malcador Posted June 5, 2016 Posted June 5, 2016 Sounds like typical Horde bias at play. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Blarghagh Posted June 5, 2016 Posted June 5, 2016 (edited) It's a trademark law thing. You have to act like you defend your trademark otherwise you might lose it. The Overwatch porno specifically targeted is those that took assets like models, animations, textures etc. straight out of the game. If Blizzard allowed that, someone could use that in a case as to why they would be allowed to use those assets in pretty much anything because Blizzard didn't treat it like a company trademark and let someone run amok with them. Now Blizzard has cases on record where they defended their trademark, even if futile. As for Disney, Disney is well-known for bringing lawsuits to things like kindergartens if they have Mickey Mouse murals. Disney is insanely aggressive about this stuff. Much moreso than Blizzard, a company that leaves private WoW servers alone until they start advertising that they have 100'000 members like idiots. Edited June 5, 2016 by TrueNeutral *trademark not copyright 1
ShadySands Posted June 5, 2016 Posted June 5, 2016 (edited) I really like Blizzard as a company even though I don't play any of their games. During my first deployment in Iraq some people in my platoon who were diehard WoW addicts contacted Blizzard about pausing their subs or something until they got back. Blizzard asked for our unit mailing address and about a month or so later we got a package in the mail with a bunch of stuff and whatever was the newest WoW expansion and an awesome letter that detailed how to create a private server while stating they don't condone private servers and how they are forbidden. I don't know who signed off on that but the company has a lot of good will from me for that. Edited June 5, 2016 by ShadySands 3 Free games updated 3/4/21
Valsuelm Posted June 5, 2016 Posted June 5, 2016 I really like Blizzard as a company even though I don't play any of their games. During my first deployment in Iraq some people in my platoon who were diehard WoW addicts contacted Blizzard about pausing their subs until they got back. Blizzard asked for our unit mailing address and about a month or so later we got a package in the mail with a bunch of stuff and whatever was the newest WoW expansion and an awesome letter that detailed how to create a private server while stating they don't condone private servers and how they are forbidden. I don't know who signed off on that but the company has a lot of good will from me for that. Nice. ....and this confirms a suspicion I've long had that Blizzard themselves are indirectly if not directly behind the private servers out there.
kirottu Posted June 5, 2016 Posted June 5, 2016 I really like Blizzard as a company even though I don't play any of their games. During my first deployment in Iraq some people in my platoon who were diehard WoW addicts contacted Blizzard about pausing their subs until they got back. Blizzard asked for our unit mailing address and about a month or so later we got a package in the mail with a bunch of stuff and whatever was the newest WoW expansion and an awesome letter that detailed how to create a private server while stating they don't condone private servers and how they are forbidden. I don't know who signed off on that but the company has a lot of good will from me for that. Nice. ....and this confirms a suspicion I've long had that Blizzard themselves are indirectly if not directly behind the war on Iraq. Fixed that for you. 3 This post is not to be enjoyed, discussed, or referenced on company time.
Longknife Posted June 5, 2016 Posted June 5, 2016 I'm curious if Disney does the same. I'd imagine they do. I think, as long as it's confined to it's own corner of the internet, they (and others) ignore it. If it gets to rampant they come down on it. I mean, Esurance had to change their mascot because there was just so many metric tons of porn created from Erin Esurance (with really really really bad puns) Which btw, I'd love to know who these people are that watched Esurance commercials and were like "yknow what? I really wanna jack off to this." "The Courier was the worst of all of them. The worst by far. When he died the first time, he must have met the devil, and then killed him." Is your mom hot? It may explain why guys were following her ?
Calax Posted June 5, 2016 Posted June 5, 2016 Sounds like typical Horde bias at play. With the way the story is written, the Alliance is basically the "Evil Empire" at this point, while the Horde are the scrappy underdogs... somehow. Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off.
Malcador Posted June 5, 2016 Posted June 5, 2016 Sounds like typical Horde bias at play. With the way the story is written, the Alliance is basically the "Evil Empire" at this point, while the Horde are the scrappy underdogs... somehow. In the movie ? In the game...eh. They worked hard at this noble savage thing. Still laugh at the internment camps used as a dig against the Alliance when dealing with genocidal invader. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Valsuelm Posted June 5, 2016 Posted June 5, 2016 I really like Blizzard as a company even though I don't play any of their games. During my first deployment in Iraq some people in my platoon who were diehard WoW addicts contacted Blizzard about pausing their subs until they got back. Blizzard asked for our unit mailing address and about a month or so later we got a package in the mail with a bunch of stuff and whatever was the newest WoW expansion and an awesome letter that detailed how to create a private server while stating they don't condone private servers and how they are forbidden. I don't know who signed off on that but the company has a lot of good will from me for that. Nice. ....and this confirms a suspicion I've long had that Blizzard themselves are indirectly if not directly behind the war on Iraq. Fixed that for you. If you think that's fixing, you're broken yourself.
Gromnir Posted June 5, 2016 Posted June 5, 2016 am not a fan of blizzard games. we did play starcraft for many hours. even so, am not recalling the last time we played any blizzard game. that being said, we were surprised approving o' the aesthetic choice blizzard went with for wow. photorealistic, particular back in 2004, were resulting in rather fugly games... at least from our pov. blizzard instead went with a more colorful and cartoony look. ridiculous over-sized weapons and armour is typical turnoffs for Gromnir, but given that the entire aesthetic o' the game were a sorta a warhammer-as-reimagined-by-hanna-barbera, we didn't see room for much compliant. the thing is, that same aesthetic doesn't set well with us for live-action. as we said, the look o' wow is decidedly cartoony. live-action and cartoony is rare complimentary... save for perhaps the bakshi lotr? *shrug* haven't seen warcraft, nor do we plan to. even so, what scenes we have seen from the warcraft movie via trailers and youtube snippets look fundamental wrong to us. have a live-action movie trying to nevertheless capture wow aesthetic is resulting in a kinda frankenstein abomination. HA! Good Fun! "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019)
Calax Posted June 6, 2016 Posted June 6, 2016 Sounds like typical Horde bias at play. With the way the story is written, the Alliance is basically the "Evil Empire" at this point, while the Horde are the scrappy underdogs... somehow. In the movie ? In the game...eh. They worked hard at this noble savage thing. Still laugh at the internment camps used as a dig against the Alliance when dealing with genocidal invader. Yeah, in the game (more specifically in war 3 Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off.
Amentep Posted June 6, 2016 Posted June 6, 2016 I'm curious if Disney does the same. I'd imagine they do. I think, as long as it's confined to it's own corner of the internet, they (and others) ignore it. If it gets to rampant they come down on it. I mean, Esurance had to change their mascot because there was just so many metric tons of porn created from Erin Esurance (with really really really bad puns) Which btw, I'd love to know who these people are that watched Esurance commercials and were like "yknow what? I really wanna jack off to this." If the internet has taught me anything, its that there are some people who find anything in a vaguely feminine form to be potential stroke material. 2 I cannot - yet I must. How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do "must" and "cannot" meet? Yet I must - but I cannot! ~ Ro-Man
Malcador Posted June 6, 2016 Posted June 6, 2016 Rule 34 is common knowledge no? Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Blarghagh Posted June 6, 2016 Posted June 6, 2016 Almost every negative review I've read of this movie states "this is no Lord of the Rings". I missed the part where it ever claimed, pretended or seemed like it would be.
Malcador Posted June 6, 2016 Posted June 6, 2016 I guess that is just the bar for fantasy films. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
aluminiumtrioxid Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 I'm curious if Disney does the same. I'd imagine they do. I think, as long as it's confined to it's own corner of the internet, they (and others) ignore it. If it gets to rampant they come down on it. I mean, Esurance had to change their mascot because there was just so many metric tons of porn created from Erin Esurance (with really really really bad puns) Which btw, I'd love to know who these people are that watched Esurance commercials and were like "yknow what? I really wanna jack off to this." If the internet has taught me anything, its that there are some people who find anything in a vaguely feminine form to be potential stroke material. Fix'd. "Lulz is not the highest aspiration of art and mankind, no matter what the Encyclopedia Dramatica says."
Amentep Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 Well, yeah you're right. I was mostly addressing the esurance crowd (although I guess there could have been people who were there because cartoon) but yeah pretty much everything. I cannot - yet I must. How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do "must" and "cannot" meet? Yet I must - but I cannot! ~ Ro-Man
Longknife Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 I googled Plank from Ed Edd n Eddy to see if there truly is porn of everything.Not only did I find him, but apparently you can "gender bender" a plank of wood. "The Courier was the worst of all of them. The worst by far. When he died the first time, he must have met the devil, and then killed him." Is your mom hot? It may explain why guys were following her ?
Valsuelm Posted June 11, 2016 Posted June 11, 2016 Saw it last night. I went in with low expectations, and it ended up being surprisingly good.Nothing amazing, but definitely better than expected. Certainly better than anything Marvel has put out in my opinion. At least a solid 7/10. Current and former Warcraft fans will definitely like it, though it's not just for them. The person I saw the movie with never played a Warcraft game so knew next to nothing going in, and they enjoyed it. I look forward to a sequel. Given they followed the timeline/storyline roughly around Warcraft 1, there's a lot of sequel material to work with.
BruceVC Posted June 11, 2016 Posted June 11, 2016 My friends who have never ever played WOW want us to go watch this movie at IMAX I told them its not good based on the general feedback from gamers, imagine non-gamers watching it? "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
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