Hurlshort Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Be my guest. I'd have to make an alt. The reputation of Hurlshot™ is much to established to start posting such hyperbolic hogwash. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDeranged Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 I'm hoping Trump becomes President. Can't be any worse than some of the previous presidents the U.S. has had. Even if he's worse, it should be humorous to watch. The little devil in me would love it, the sheer comedy potential...I might even start watching TV again I suspect he'd be hamstrung like every other president, hopefully the more dangerous of his bat**** plans will come to naught anyway...bah, it's worth the risk I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath of Dagon Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Be my guest. I'd have to make an alt. The reputation of Hurlshot™ is much to established to start posting such hyperbolic hogwash. I see your problem. Between LoF, Oby and Quistina all the good alts are taken. "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 (edited) Be my guest. I'd have to make an alt. The reputation of Hurlshot™ is much to established to start posting such hyperbolic hogwash. I see your problem. Between LoF, Oby and Quistina all the good alts are taken. We don't have as many alts aswe used to. I'd imagine that is hard to get away with these days. Back in the day you never knew who the heck you were talking to! Edited January 11, 2016 by Guard Dog "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 You disdain Breitbart We really need some libtards putting up Huffington Post articles to help balance this place out. You know one thing I love about Briebart & Info Wars is they link the source article (usually) for whatever they are writing about. Then you go and read the source article and find that either it had nothing to do with what they are saying or the link between them is tenuous enough to make you wonder if they read it all. 2 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 (edited) I hope he didn't actually say this! Edited January 11, 2016 by Guard Dog "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Speaking of bad journalism, would anyone like to point out the flaw in correlating the headline to the text of the article on this one? http://www.infowars.com/obama-touts-road-to-socialism-auto-bailout-in-weekly-address/ 1 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadySands Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 I think InfoWars is literally at war with information 1 Free games updated 3/4/21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 I wouldn't think it would be too radical to see them as controlled opposition. They are no threat to anyone. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 I wouldn't think it would be too radical to see them as controlled opposition. They are no threat to anyone. Opposition to what? Aside from the conspiracy bluster they don't really say anything outside the mainstream of liberalism(in pol-sci terms). "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "Am I phrasing in the most negative light for them? Yes, but it's not untrue." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 The headline give you the impression Obama hailed the bailout as a step towards socialism. That isn't what he said. That was the point I was trying to make. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 I wouldn't think it would be too radical to see them as controlled opposition. They are no threat to anyone. Opposition to what? Aside from the conspiracy bluster they don't really say anything outside the mainstream of liberalism(in pol-sci terms). I see it as a containment forum for the chemtrails-, UFOs-, flouride in water- and etc-people out there. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 I wouldn't think it would be too radical to see them as controlled opposition. They are no threat to anyone. Opposition to what? Aside from the conspiracy bluster they don't really say anything outside the mainstream of liberalism(in pol-sci terms). I see it as a containment forum for the chemtrails-, UFOs-, flouride in water- and etc-people out there. So /x/lite? "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "Am I phrasing in the most negative light for them? Yes, but it's not untrue." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 I wouldn't think it would be too radical to see them as controlled opposition. They are no threat to anyone. Opposition to what? Aside from the conspiracy bluster they don't really say anything outside the mainstream of liberalism(in pol-sci terms). I see it as a containment forum for the chemtrails-, UFOs-, flouride in water- and etc-people out there. Those thing aren't real? "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 I wouldn't think it would be too radical to see them as controlled opposition. They are no threat to anyone. Opposition to what? Aside from the conspiracy bluster they don't really say anything outside the mainstream of liberalism(in pol-sci terms). I see it as a containment forum for the chemtrails-, UFOs-, flouride in water- and etc-people out there. So /x/lite? Pretty much, there's a lot of cash to be made in that the department as well. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maedhros Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 (edited) Say what you want about Bernie, at least he's consistent. It's pretty refreshing to see a guy like him (someone of integrity) doing well in the elections. He might not be on point on everything, but for me it's always ideal when "watch dogs" like Bernie has a voice. (and yeah I know wrong thread, but the other one seems to be dead) Edited January 11, 2016 by Thingolfin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aluminiumtrioxid Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 I see it as a containment forum for the chemtrails-, UFOs-, flouride in water- and etc-people out there. Like the containment forum strategy worked with gamergaters? (Ie. it emboldened them to spew their bull**** all over everything else as well.) "Lulz is not the highest aspiration of art and mankind, no matter what the Encyclopedia Dramatica says." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath of Dagon Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Breitbart isn't Infowars, but still you have to treat every source skeptically. And obviously article quality varies. "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoraptor Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I see it as a containment forum for the chemtrails-, UFOs-, flouride in water- and etc-people out there. Like the containment forum strategy worked with gamergaters? (Ie. it emboldened them to spew their bull**** all over everything else as well.) 'Containment strategy' showed a fundamental misjudgement of the issue when applied to GG, the situations really aren't comparable at all. Perhaps the biggest differential is that there's a significant grouping who aren't really pro GG at all but are anti anti GG (or anti SJW)- not a phenomenon you get with chemtrails etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aluminiumtrioxid Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 (edited) I see it as a containment forum for the chemtrails-, UFOs-, flouride in water- and etc-people out there. Like the containment forum strategy worked with gamergaters? (Ie. it emboldened them to spew their bull**** all over everything else as well.) 'Containment strategy' showed a fundamental misjudgement of the issue when applied to GG, the situations really aren't comparable at all. Perhaps the biggest differential is that there's a significant grouping who aren't really pro GG at all but are anti anti GG (or anti SJW)- not a phenomenon you get with chemtrails etc. Hardly answers the point I tried (and apparently failed) to make, namely that since people have been allowed to voice their frankly nasty and barbaric opinions about women in gaming, they seem to have become emboldened to voice their nasty and barbaric opinions about everything else as well. Or maybe they've been consistently terrible and I just started paying attention to them more, I don't know. Edited January 12, 2016 by aluminiumtrioxid "Lulz is not the highest aspiration of art and mankind, no matter what the Encyclopedia Dramatica says." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amentep Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 They were probably "spewing" without you noticing until they came to your attention. I cannot - yet I must. How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do "must" and "cannot" meet? Yet I must - but I cannot! ~ Ro-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barothmuk Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I've been spitballing a theory that a lot of internet 'radicalism' has its roots in clickbait journalism constantly trying to outdo itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amentep Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I've been spitballing a theory that a lot of internet 'radicalism' has its roots in clickbait journalism constantly trying to outdo itself. I don't think it helps; clickbait title are designed to use hyperbole to infuriate, which in turn leads to hyperbolic response. But I also think social media is a problem - it allows ideas to disseminate faster than I think people have the ability to come to grips as to what it really means and deal with in a rational way. 1 I cannot - yet I must. How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do "must" and "cannot" meet? Yet I must - but I cannot! ~ Ro-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 I've been spitballing a theory that a lot of internet 'radicalism' has its roots in clickbait journalism constantly trying to outdo itself. It seems me much of it is role-playing from the comfort of pseudoanonymity so perhaps not being tied to real life emboldens some to voice their seldom revealed opinions or act edgy. So the phenomenon of clickbait is the logical response given material conditions to such internet radicalism. 1 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "Am I phrasing in the most negative light for them? Yes, but it's not untrue." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoraptor Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Low barriers of entry on the internet makes it easier to find 'media' that support your position, whatever that position may be and easier to establish said media, economics dictate that either clicks or zeal maintain that media. (Near) Instant response time allows plenty of posting while angry/ drunk/ (permanently or not) afflicted by teh dums/ getting stuck in escalating arguments, and the instant response massive broadcast of social media (theoretically) allows everyone to be heard; there are additional factors like the 140 character limit of twitter that makes any nuance difficult but leaves plenty of room for stupidity or nastiness. Twenty years ago your options were phone someone, write a letter to the editor, newsgroups if you happened to be one of the few on the internet or what the vast majority did- doing nothing. It's all a bit self reinforcing and self perpetuating but for 95% of those involved it's more of a mildly unpleasant circle than a vicious one. If you're a chemtrailer you're probably predisposed towards interesting takes on things in real life and if you get upset about criticism or people disagreeing with you on the internet you're probably a delicate snowflake in real life too; or you're trolling and don't actually care. In any case the idea of 'containment' on the internet is unworkable for anything opinion based, since usenet it's been the town square where everyone can drag in a soapbox to shout from. Most people ignore chemtrailers because their theories have certain eminent flaws, not because they're 'contained'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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