Gwynbleidd Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 (edited) What if someone manages to remake BG using PoE's beatiful engine in say, 10 years? How magnificient that would be... I wouldn't mind playing anything else for the rest of my life. Edited April 10, 2015 by Gwynbleidd 1
gkathellar Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 Without individual stealth, or an actual sophisticated spell system? Nop. 3 If I'm typing in red, it means I'm being sarcastic. But not this time. Dark green, on the other hand, is for jokes and irony in general.
Serdan Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 (edited) Without individual stealth, or an actual sophisticated spell system? Nop. The engine is capable of both. I'd love to see BG/BG2 in PoE's engine, but it would be a huuuge undertaking. Edited April 10, 2015 by Serdan 1
eLPuSHeR Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 You would have to pay royalties for the AD&D franchise too...
Gallenger Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 Well there's an NWN mod that remakes Baldurs Gate 1 - I think it took them 10 years to make lol.
MasterPrudent Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 I don't know why you'd want to keep endlessly messing with it, reconstituting it and rebuilding it when it's right over there; perfectly playable and as its makers intended it to be, warts and all. 3
Dee-Jay Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 (edited) The unity engine is very accessible and makes content creation fairy easy. But he Baldur's Gate series has just had a remake and I have no idea why you'd want to do it again. The only gripe I have with the game in the AD&D ruleset , which is completely non-intuitive. But there's no chance of that ever changing. And frankly PoE doesn't look that much better than the BG series did back in 2000. And that ran on a 300 Mhz PC. Edited April 10, 2015 by Dee-Jay
gkathellar Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 Without individual stealth, or an actual sophisticated spell system? Nop. The engine is capable of both. I'd love to see BG/BG2 in PoE's engine, but it would be a huuuge undertaking. So what, just the Unity Engine, but not actually using PoE-style rules? ... uh, why? Just graphics? If I'm typing in red, it means I'm being sarcastic. But not this time. Dark green, on the other hand, is for jokes and irony in general.
PrimeJunta Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 I'm not a big fan of remakes. I'd rather the effort was spent on making something more original. 3 I have a project. It's a tabletop RPG. It's free. It's a work in progress. Find it here: www.brikoleur.com
Ichthyic Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 um, the "engine" is just the Unity engine. anyone can build their own game using it, and for most of us, it would be free.you want to redo BG in unity? go for it. In fact, in about 10 years even a single person could do it in their spare time. 1
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 No, because by then the current engine will be obsolete. The IE games are just as good as they ever were and modders have heroically released mods that make the games great. If they do remake the IE games, aside from the lame EE crap, they should overhaul the mechanics to use the 5e ruleset. "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands
Sabin Stargem Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 I think it is more likely for Beamdog to strike a deal with Obsidian to cooperate on making Baldur's Gate III. 1
Ichthyic Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 IIRC, didn't someone redo BG in the NWN engine? for those interested in a more graphic experience, I bet they would like that.
gkathellar Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 they should overhaul the mechanics to use the 5e ruleset. Pistols at dawn. IIRC, didn't someone redo BG in the NWN engine? for those interested in a more graphic experience, I bet they would like that. NWN2, but yeah. 's crazy. 1 If I'm typing in red, it means I'm being sarcastic. But not this time. Dark green, on the other hand, is for jokes and irony in general.
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 (edited) I think it is more likely for Beamdog to strike a deal with Obsidian to cooperate on making Baldur's Gate III. I hope not. Beamdog's original content in the EE was cringe worthy. they should overhaul the mechanics to use the 5e ruleset. Pistols at dawn. Edited April 10, 2015 by KaineParker 2 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands
Ichthyic Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 they should overhaul the mechanics to use the 5e ruleset. uh, they can't. in fact, no commercial entity trying to make a crpg has permission to do so at this point. this is in fact, the main reason PoE is not Baldur's Gate 3. I for one welcome diversity, and would actually wish this game to be even FURTHER from the DnD ruleset than it is. vive la difference!
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 they should overhaul the mechanics to use the 5e ruleset.uh, they can't. in fact, no commercial entity trying to make a crpg has permission to do so at this point. this is in fact, the main reason PoE is not Baldur's Gate 3. I for one welcome diversity, and would actually wish this game to be even FURTHER from the DnD ruleset than it is. vive la difference! I was talking about a remake of the IE games, which need to use some DnD ruleset. Given the choice between 2E and another system, I would pick 5E because 2E is bad. "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands
Valsuelm Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 (edited) There is little to nothing that could be gained by playing BG in the PoE engine.The only major possible improvement to be made to the IE games is better graphics.Unfortunately the original art from those games is lost, so it's not possible to do, or Beamdog would have done it. I'd also say a better inventory management system but that seems beyond the capabilities of game designers outside of the modding community for WoW. Edited April 10, 2015 by Valsuelm
Ichthyic Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 I was talking about a remake of the IE games ...which still require a license to do from the people who now own WoTC, if someone is doing it commercially instead of "mod" style.
Shadow_Arms Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 (edited) its easy and possible to port and rebuild BG1, 2 and all IE games on UNITY for a big example of that, Daggerfall is being rebuilt on Unity since last year and they are having more success in that rather than Lucius with XLEngine http://www.dfworkshop.net/ Edited April 11, 2015 by Shadow_Arms 1
sparklecat Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 Speaking of rebuilding IE games in different engines, you all have seen the BG2 remake in the Dragon Age engine that's being worked on, right? I played through the Irenicus dungeon portion; wasn't half bad, though I rather doubt they'll ever finish the whole game.
Mungri Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 It wouldn't be possible because Wotc / Atari are terrible. Also all the original art sources for BG are lost, which was why the enhanced editions couldn't be made higher resolution.
huang Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 Nope, I'd much rather play Pillars of Eternity II in the Pillars of Eternity engine. :D Just finished both Enhanced Editions a few months ago, so I had my fill.
Volourn Posted April 11, 2015 Posted April 11, 2015 "I think it is more likely for Beamdog to strike a deal with Obsidian to cooperate on making Baldur's Gate III." Beamdog doesn't have that kind of power. They need to beg just so they can spam their stupid 'remakes'. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
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