Archaven Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Hi i have this bug when in one of the inn in Defiance Bay. It was really lucky! I have an autosave :/. Has this been fixed? Also i can't remember a location (i think it's Raedric's Hold or something) that it has distorted shadows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draek Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 You can't really change a few lines and expect an update of equal size in a compiled game. The game binary file is just 20MB though, so that's no excuse for a 600MB patch. The reason why patches are so ridiculously big on Steam, is that Steam does not support true incremental patches. I have no idea why they don't implement it - it's not rocket science, in fact the technology has existed for a long time and is used all over the Internet. Steam could probably save a sizeable amount of their server costs if they used it, not to mention increase customer satisfaction through shorter download times. You can't really change a few lines and expect an update of equal size in a compiled game. The game binary file is just 20MB though, so that's no excuse for a 600MB patch. The reason why patches are so ridiculously big on Steam, is that Steam does not support true incremental patches. I have no idea why they don't implement it - it's not rocket science, in fact the technology has existed for a long time and is used all over the Internet. Steam could probably save a sizeable amount of their server costs if they used it, not to mention increase customer satisfaction through shorter download times. According to another post around here by the devs, Steam downloads things in 1meg blocks and thus the patches blow up to be way bigger than they need to be when they upload them to steam. That's all it is. As far as I know that isn't how it works. Generally speaking the version on steam is always the latest version in a single package file. The single package file is downloaded onto the computer and unpacked. When an update occurs steam uses its Delta Patch Algorithm to compare the difference between the Steam Server version and the version on your computer. It then downloads the updates based on the entire package difference. That probably is where the main issue lies. http://www.pcgamesn.com/tf2/what-steampipe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloudline Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I used the iroll20s and NoFog suggestion to open a door which was bugged. The console stated something to the effect of 'Achievements Disabled'. I'm running a GOG version. What does that mean? Am I losing something? I'm playing on Hard with Trial of Iron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumbold99 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I doubt it. i'm playing the steam version and it hasn't updated my achievements, ever. I got the backer achievement for downloading the game then nothing else. To my knowledge I've never triggered any cheats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conidium Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 It seems like I'm not the only player who can't load any save game since the patch was applied on the Steam version https://forums.obsidian.net/topic/76417-my-game-is-crashing-constantly-after-the-patch/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overander Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Thanks for the patches! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arctic Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 again ? stop changing all assets with every minor change omfg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
physicalist Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 (edited) @Arctic: Apparently that is a problem with Steam and Unity (the game engine). The GoG-Patches are much smaller. Edited April 7, 2015 by physicalist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arctic Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 @Arctic: Apparently that is a problem with Steam and Unity (the game engine). The GoG-Patches are much smaller. the first 1.03 pach with all the fixes didnt change the references from the assets, so its not steam's fault xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Winter Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 I used the iroll20s and NoFog suggestion to open a door which was bugged. The console stated something to the effect of 'Achievements Disabled'. I'm running a GOG version. What does that mean? Am I losing something? I'm playing on Hard with Trial of Iron. Achievements are only through Steam's system - they're meta-game rather than in-game (things like "completed game solo" or something - don't know any specific examples as I'm on gog version too - I don't care for 'achievements'). Enabling console cheats disables the achievements. So no, you're not missing out on anything - you can 'achieve' anything on the gog version - you just don't get a shiny badge on steam to say you did it _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ *Casts Nature's Terror* , *Casts Firebug* , *Casts Rot-Skulls* , *Casts Garden of Life* *Spirit-shifts to cat form* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luj1 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) Thanks for the patches! It's kind of normal to release patches with so many bugs in the game. No, not normal. Mandatory. Edited April 8, 2015 by Luj1 "There once was a loon that twitter Before he went down the ****ter In its demise he wasn't missed Because there were bugs to be fixed." ~ Kaine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexo Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Thanks for the patches! It's kind of normal to release patches with so many bugs in the game. No, not normal. Mandatory. Either way, I'm glad to see this bug being fixed, so thanks for the hotfix Obsidian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syn666 Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 glad to see frequent updated, keep it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockmassif Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 First, why don't this website has some sort of Steam implementation so I can sign in through Steam? Second, why are we downloding 600MB for a simple hotfix? I mean this is not even a proper patch it's just a hotfix? Here I was happy that the game got a huge patch, removed bugs, provided some QoL features and then I come here and all my dreams are crushed. Not cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Winter Posted April 9, 2015 Share Posted April 9, 2015 First, why don't this website has some sort of Steam implementation so I can sign in through Steam? Second, why are we downloding 600MB for a simple hotfix? I mean this is not even a proper patch it's just a hotfix? Here I was happy that the game got a huge patch, removed bugs, provided some QoL features and then I come here and all my dreams are crushed. Not cool. The size of the hotfix is a steam issue - they have some strange way of packaging it. Nothing Obsidian can do about that, I think. On gog, the same patch (patch+2 hotfixes) is only about 85MB. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ *Casts Nature's Terror* , *Casts Firebug* , *Casts Rot-Skulls* , *Casts Garden of Life* *Spirit-shifts to cat form* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STiAT Posted April 11, 2015 Share Posted April 11, 2015 Heh I got stuck in my stronghold bedroom due to that bug. Luckily the stairway transition area was close enough to the door that I had a way to escape. At least you didn't get Fatigue there :D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faydark Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 First, why don't this website has some sort of Steam implementation so I can sign in through Steam? Second, why are we downloding 600MB for a simple hotfix? I mean this is not even a proper patch it's just a hotfix? Here I was happy that the game got a huge patch, removed bugs, provided some QoL features and then I come here and all my dreams are crushed. Not cool. The size of the hotfix is a steam issue - they have some strange way of packaging it. Nothing Obsidian can do about that, I think. On gog, the same patch (patch+2 hotfixes) is only about 85MB. I'm not ready to point fingers, because any number of things can go wrong between A and B.. but we have had several games on Steam now where we have changed large data files and executables, and the resulting Steam patch comes in at under 50mb etc. We do have to do an extra step to generate the delta patch, but it's done using Steams provided tools. I've seen some people mention that it's an issue with the way Unity's data formats work, but other Unity based games on Steam don't seem to have this problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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