Drama and games journalism, soggy leg joint edition

[BruceVC]

You guys think I'm hardcore and unreasonable  in my social justice beliefs. I've just listened to a late night radio discussion where certain people are convinced that 20 years after the end of Apartheid the government must still provide free houses to them, free services and provide a way for them  to find a job. They don't want to take responsibility for anything..."the government has to do it for them "

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

You guys think I'm hardcore and unreasonable  in my social justice beliefs. I've just listened to a late night radio discussion where certain people are convinced that 20 years after the end of Apartheid the government must still provide free houses to them, free services and provide a way for them  to find a job. They don't want to take responsibility for anything..."the government has to do it for them "

That's nice Bruce, but I don't see how it's related to this.

[Longknife]

Newest from twitterverse

 

Felicia Day's blog post where she writes down her thoughts about GamerGate and how it has effected her. 

http://thisfeliciaday.tumblr.com/post/100700417809/the-only-thing-i-have-to-say-about-gamer-gate

It's odd.

 

To me, she represents a mature reaction to the drama, aka the entire article reads like "I get a lot of scrutiny while in the public eye, and yes it's unfair and uncomfortable, but I can't let that stop me from being me, nor can I let that allow me to hate people as a collective." Damn right, that's exactly the attitude everyone should have.

 

But then at the end she remarks that she thinks this article will garner scorn and disdain from GamerGate supporters...wtf why? It's like she's misunderstood something or Iunno what, but we can't know because she never clarifies or explains what GamerGate means to her. Best of luck to her, either way. Hopefully the article sparks talks with some people and she'll realize she's got nothing to worry about.

[Elerond]

 

Newest from twitterverse

 

Felicia Day's blog post where she writes down her thoughts about GamerGate and how it has effected her. 

http://thisfeliciaday.tumblr.com/post/100700417809/the-only-thing-i-have-to-say-about-gamer-gate

 

EDIT:

Article where journalist tries to find out what is the thing that gamergate movement wants. Writer seems to be bit frustrated about end results.

http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2014/10/gamergate-should-stop-lying-to-itself.html?n_play=5447d040e4b00a112b2a20ae

It's odd.

 

To me, she represents a mature reaction to the drama, aka the entire article reads like "I get a lot of scrutiny while in the public eye, and yes it's unfair and uncomfortable, but I can't let that stop me from being me, nor can I let that allow me to hate people as a collective." Damn right, that's exactly the attitude everyone should have.

 

But then at the end she remarks that she thinks this article will garner scorn and disdain from GamerGate supporters...wtf why? It's like she's misunderstood something or Iunno what, but we can't know because she never clarifies or explains what GamerGate means to her. Best of luck to her, either way. Hopefully the article sparks talks with some people and she'll realize she's got nothing to worry about.

 

 

Because when she gave similar remarks in twitter she got hundreds of angry replies about them (as she said in the post), so she probably except similar reaction to this also.

Edited October 23, 2014 by Elerond

[BruceVC]

 

You guys think I'm hardcore and unreasonable  in my social justice beliefs. I've just listened to a late night radio discussion where certain people are convinced that 20 years after the end of Apartheid the government must still provide free houses to them, free services and provide a way for them  to find a job. They don't want to take responsibility for anything..."the government has to do it for them "

That's nice Bruce, but I don't see how it's related to this.

 

 

This thread  is the closet thing to a current SJ discussion we have and I didn't want to start  new thread just to raise this

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

 

 

You guys think I'm hardcore and unreasonable  in my social justice beliefs. I've just listened to a late night radio discussion where certain people are convinced that 20 years after the end of Apartheid the government must still provide free houses to them, free services and provide a way for them  to find a job. They don't want to take responsibility for anything..."the government has to do it for them "

That's nice Bruce, but I don't see how it's related to this.

 

 

This thread  is the closet thing to a current SJ discussion we have and I didn't want to start  new thread just to raise this

 

You could try the Capitalism v. Socialism thread we had a while back.

[Namutree]

 

 

 

You guys think I'm hardcore and unreasonable  in my social justice beliefs. I've just listened to a late night radio discussion where certain people are convinced that 20 years after the end of Apartheid the government must still provide free houses to them, free services and provide a way for them  to find a job. They don't want to take responsibility for anything..."the government has to do it for them "

That's nice Bruce, but I don't see how it's related to this.

 

 

This thread  is the closet thing to a current SJ discussion we have and I didn't want to start  new thread just to raise this

 

You could try the Capitalism v. Socialism thread we had a while back.

 

It'll just become a never ending argument about whether or not the nazis were socialists.

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

 

 

 

 

You guys think I'm hardcore and unreasonable  in my social justice beliefs. I've just listened to a late night radio discussion where certain people are convinced that 20 years after the end of Apartheid the government must still provide free houses to them, free services and provide a way for them  to find a job. They don't want to take responsibility for anything..."the government has to do it for them "

That's nice Bruce, but I don't see how it's related to this.

 

 

This thread  is the closet thing to a current SJ discussion we have and I didn't want to start  new thread just to raise this

 

You could try the Capitalism v. Socialism thread we had a while back.

 

It'll just become a never ending argument about whether or not the nazis were socialists.

 

Every argument eventually leads back to Nazis or Communists, without fail. Gamergate has been outed as a fascist mob by the fine reporters bloggers of Gawker, all that remains is to be marshaled by our fuhrer Ian Miles "Hitler is my ****ing idol" Cheong.

[BruceVC]

 

 

 

You guys think I'm hardcore and unreasonable  in my social justice beliefs. I've just listened to a late night radio discussion where certain people are convinced that 20 years after the end of Apartheid the government must still provide free houses to them, free services and provide a way for them  to find a job. They don't want to take responsibility for anything..."the government has to do it for them "

That's nice Bruce, but I don't see how it's related to this.

 

 

This thread  is the closet thing to a current SJ discussion we have and I didn't want to start  new thread just to raise this

 

You could try the Capitalism v. Socialism thread we had a while back.

 

I  would rather not take the chance of you guys missing out on my post

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

 

 

 

 

You guys think I'm hardcore and unreasonable  in my social justice beliefs. I've just listened to a late night radio discussion where certain people are convinced that 20 years after the end of Apartheid the government must still provide free houses to them, free services and provide a way for them  to find a job. They don't want to take responsibility for anything..."the government has to do it for them "

That's nice Bruce, but I don't see how it's related to this.

 

 

This thread  is the closet thing to a current SJ discussion we have and I didn't want to start  new thread just to raise this

 

You could try the Capitalism v. Socialism thread we had a while back.

 

I  would rather not take the chance of you guys missing out on my post

 

I assure you we would probably end up looking. We are all insomniacs after all.

[Namutree]

 

You could try the Capitalism v. Socialism thread we had a while back.

 

I  would rather not take the chance of you guys missing out on my post

 

Just start a new SJW thread to talk about this kind of stuff. I'll visit it.

[BruceVC]

 

 

You could try the Capitalism v. Socialism thread we had a while back.

 

I  would rather not take the chance of you guys missing out on my post

 

Just start a new SJW thread to talk about this kind of stuff. I'll visit it.

 

 

No I only post  what I consider are valid SJ issues in there own thread. I don't want to overdo it and also I don't really want a dedicated SJ thread, would you ?

[Namutree]

 

 

 

You could try the Capitalism v. Socialism thread we had a while back.

 

I  would rather not take the chance of you guys missing out on my post

 

Just start a new SJW thread to talk about this kind of stuff. I'll visit it.

 

 

No I only post  what I consider are valid SJ issues in there own thread. I don't want to overdo it and also I don't really want a dedicated SJ thread, would you ?

 

I guess not.

[Lexx]

Newest from twitterverse

 

Felicia Day's blog post where she writes down her thoughts about GamerGate and how it has effected her. 

http://thisfeliciaday.tumblr.com/post/100700417809/the-only-thing-i-have-to-say-about-gamer-gate

Oh my god, there will be even more Supernatural? Please god, if you exist then let this tv show finally die. It has become so, so bad.

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

 

Newest from twitterverse

 

Felicia Day's blog post where she writes down her thoughts about GamerGate and how it has effected her. 

http://thisfeliciaday.tumblr.com/post/100700417809/the-only-thing-i-have-to-say-about-gamer-gate

Oh my god, there will be even more Supernatural? Please god, if you exist then let this tv show finally die. It has become so, so bad.

 

God isn't listening, we should find a new one that will rid the world of Supernatural. I vote Thanos.

[Namutree]

 

 

Newest from twitterverse

 

Felicia Day's blog post where she writes down her thoughts about GamerGate and how it has effected her. 

http://thisfeliciaday.tumblr.com/post/100700417809/the-only-thing-i-have-to-say-about-gamer-gate

Oh my god, there will be even more Supernatural? Please god, if you exist then let this tv show finally die. It has become so, so bad.

 

God isn't listening, we should find a new one that will rid the world of Supernatural. I vote Thanos.

 

I'll start a poll.

[ShadySands]

 

 

 

Newest from twitterverse

 

Felicia Day's blog post where she writes down her thoughts about GamerGate and how it has effected her. 

http://thisfeliciaday.tumblr.com/post/100700417809/the-only-thing-i-have-to-say-about-gamer-gate

Oh my god, there will be even more Supernatural? Please god, if you exist then let this tv show finally die. It has become so, so bad.

 

God isn't listening, we should find a new one that will rid the world of Supernatural. I vote Thanos.

 

I'll start a poll.

 

 

[kirottu]

So Zoe is spreading a doxx and Gawker attacks their advertisers...

 

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

So Zoe is spreading a doxx and Gawker attacks their advertisers...

 

Yup. I find it funny at this point, will have a good laugh when this doesn't go over very well for them.

[Shallow]

Without mentioning she did it. If they can ignore all the other things, they can ignore this too.

Her twitter was just briefly hacked like Wu, duh.

[Agiel]

 

They won't ruin this game.

 

Too lazy to check more Internet butthurt.

 

I kind of blame Doctor Who for creating the expectation for *ALL* in-game NPCs existing either as paragons of or projections of postmodern progressive values, which is where I think the hate for Ashley Williams in Mass Effect is couched in.

 

She's a good character. Are the space racist aspects of her likeable? Of course not, but her backstory is nuanced enough that how she is is kind of expected given her background.

Edited October 23, 2014 by Agiel

[kirottu]

An interesting, different take on GamerGate:

http://kazerad.tumblr.com/post/100701290523/gamergate-alternate-theory

[JadedWolf]

Newest from twitterverse

 

Felicia Day's blog post where she writes down her thoughts about GamerGate and how it has effected her. 

http://thisfeliciaday.tumblr.com/post/100700417809/the-only-thing-i-have-to-say-about-gamer-gate

 

EDIT:

Article where journalist tries to find out what is the thing that gamergate movement wants. Writer seems to be bit frustrated about end results.

http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2014/10/gamergate-should-stop-lying-to-itself.html?n_play=5447d040e4b00a112b2a20ae

 

Those are some interesting articles which show that some journalists simply don't understand the problem. There's a very interesting response from one of the posters in the article you last linked, David Ward.

 

"These articles were proof that games media was hostile to those that consumed games media, not because we are the stereotype but BECAUSE we had thought a natural progression had already occurred where the stereotype was disproved, but our media hadn’t gotten the memo.

 

To think we’re simply mad because we heard “Gamers are Dead” hur dur derp, anger, is condescending – we understand they’re not trying to “take away our games.” We’re hurt because we’re alienated, we’ve had stereotypes thrust on us since the 80s, and it hasn’t stopped since but we’d hoped that our media (our advocates) were the last people to perpetuate those stereotypes."

 

I'm not a GamerGate supporter (I guess I'll have to say this a thousand times) but I still feel insulted when I hear the press' stereotypical definition of "Gamer". But, oh no, sorry guys we don't mean you, when we say gamer we only mean the sort of virgin, neckbeard, obese, cisgendered, white, male, crybaby that we immediately think of when we say gamer, and you're not like that right?

 

Yeah, that's not at all insulting.

 

Edit: The Felicia Day article, well, I can certainly understand how she would feel that way considering that there are people out there that do have these very negative views on anything female and that the press puts all its focus on them. It's a shame because it honestly isn't a reason to avoid people who look like gamers to her (can you really tell? Is there a secret handshake I missed?). And that's the thing really, because all the focus goes out to the toxic GamerGaters suddenly all gamers seem to be suspect.

Edited October 23, 2014 by JadedWolf

[Oerwinde]

My first reaction to the Felicia Day post was the bit about her expecting the trolls to dissipate but they haven't. Duh. You don't feed the trolls, thats like rule #1. When trolls food of choice is negative reactions and attention, and the people they're going after write tweet after tweet, and articles for major websites, and major network media appearances, all about their negative reactions and how people need to pay attention, of course they aren't going away! Zoe, Anita, and Brianna got stung, and their reaction wasn't to avoid bees like a normal person, it was to kick hives.

[Meshugger]

Did Gamergate celebrate in a ritual dance, flinging bro-fists all around and drank to Ms. Day's tears? Atleast that's what the mainstream media says.

 

Also, i learned on twitter that the shooter in Ottawa had a #Gamergate-tshirt. Those sounds like legitimate concerns from a non-biased citizen of the land.