Meshugger Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 I was digging through my old games library and found myself playing this gem again for the Xth time. While i do appriciate the experience again with the graphics, soundtrack and the sense of exploring an unknown and varied world, i couldn't help wondering if there is any FPS that has captured the same feel and atmoshere as this one did. (I played it with the latest patch and the high-resolution textures installed) Are there any similar ones, or was this game just a fluke among vast wasteland of FPS games? And no, Unreal 2 doesn't count, that game failed miserably on almost every level. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drowsy Emperor Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 I haven't played Unreal 1 (only the Tournament games), but that type of sci-fi horror shooter is all but extinct. Even on the rare occasions they get made they tend to suck. Doom 4 might come eventually and Wolfenstein: New Order is about as close as you're going to get. The old shooters tended to be very straightforward run and gun affairs, today there are a ton of practically obligatory mechanics that get in the way. Painkiller and Serious Sam were the last two good entries in the genre which has been colonized by military based 1 И погибе Српски кнез Лазаре,И његова сва изгибе војска, Седамдесет и седам иљада;Све је свето и честито билоИ миломе Богу приступачно. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Slinky Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Unreal wasn't really a sci-fi horror shooter, it was more like a atmospheric first person exploration game in an alien planet with awesome graphics and even more awesome soundtrack than a FPS. There was enemies to shoot at, but there weren't that many of them in those large levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drowsy Emperor Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 (edited) Well that's even less likely to pop up nowadays. I stumbled on this interesting article: http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/EricSchwarz/20130415/190441/BioShock_Infinites_Combat_Mechanics_Regression.php Its a long but well written explanation on how shooter's became dumber (through BS Infinite). This pic made me lol. Edited April 26, 2014 by Drowsy Emperor 4 И погибе Српски кнез Лазаре,И његова сва изгибе војска, Седамдесет и седам иљада;Све је свето и честито билоИ миломе Богу приступачно. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyrock Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Serious Sam is a different animal altogether, it's the FPS equivalent of a bullet hell shooter. As far as games like Unreal 1, sadly, I can't really think of anything even remotely equivalent since then. Half-Life 1 & 2 is the closest I can think of, just to give you an idea of how far off even the closest thing I can think of is. RFK Jr 2024 "Any organization created out of fear must create fear to survive." - Bill Hicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humanoid Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 (edited) Not really advice, but brings back memories of the hyped Quake-killers of the late 90s. I think the big ones were meant to be Unreal, SiN, Prey, Half-Line and Daikatana. Unreal and Half-Life obviously did pretty well, SiN somewhat less so, and Prey had an almost Duke Nukemish development cycle and released in 2006. Daikatana is just a punchline. But yeah, I'm not much use since the last FPS I can honestly say I genuinely enjoyed was NOLF2. EDIT: And some old news headlines from 1998 verify my recollection: http://www.bluesnews.com/archives/jan98-3.html Some familiar names on the page there, heh. Edited April 26, 2014 by Humanoid 1 L I E S T R O N GL I V E W R O N G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyrock Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 (edited) I liked Prey, though I kind of forgot about it. That may be the closest game to Unreal 1 since. Maybe not in terms of overall quality, but in being a somewhat similar type of shooter and letting you explore a weird, alien environment. Edited April 26, 2014 by Keyrock RFK Jr 2024 "Any organization created out of fear must create fear to survive." - Bill Hicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sorophx Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 What about Halo: Combat Evolved? I remember enjoying it. and Doom 3 Walsingham said: I was struggling to understand ths until I noticed you are from Finland. And having been educated solely by mkreku in this respect I am convinced that Finland essentially IS the wh40k universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endrosz Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 I think the Far Cry series has strong exploration and atmosphere. I you can stomach the Doom-style graphics, System Shock 1 is one of my favorite exploration games. There are many secrets and interesting stuff off the main path. Entire levels are optional. System Shock 2 is awesome, but it's entirely inside a spaceship. Also, RPG mechanics. Half-Life 1 is pretty good as a sci-fi exploration game. There are some railroaded parts, but also some big open parts. When it came out, it was labeled "the thinking man's shooter", and I think that fits well. Half-Life 2 is a very-very carefully disguised corridor shooter. I like it very much regardless, but it's very linear, just tries hard not to look like that. The Seven Blunders/Roots of Violence: Wealth without work. Pleasure without conscience. Knowledge without character. Commerce without morality. Science without humanity. Worship without sacrifice. Politics without principle. (Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi) Let's Play the Pools Saga (SSI Gold Box Classics) Pillows of Enamored Warfare -- The Zen of Nodding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted April 26, 2014 Author Share Posted April 26, 2014 Yeah, i forgot to say that i have played Far Cry 1, System Shock 2, Half-Life 1 & 2, Doom 1-3 and Halo: CE. Of those, System Shock 2, while being awesome as ****, was not really the same experience, more like a horror-survival. The Half-Life-series were a complete dissapointment, especially since everyone said that they were like 4000 times better than Unreal....eh no, not by a longshot. The closest experience is the original Halo, i would say. Great soundtrack, sense of mystery, great A.I. and fun gameplay in an unknown world that you want to escape from. Judging by your comments, It seems like there are no new games in the last 10 years that have remotely captured the same feel. Meh "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oner Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 I can't think of anything that you could call a strict Unreal clone either. Shame really. Giveaway list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DgyQFpOJvyNASt8A12ipyV_iwpLXg_yltGG5mffvSwo/edit?usp=sharing What is glass but tortured sand?Never forget! '12.01.13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexx Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Unreal 1 was a great game. Though, I somehow never finished it. If I remember correct, it was highly overshadowed by Half-Life. And then with Unreal Tournament, that whole franchise changed and I don't think there was ever anything like Unreal 1 again. "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azdeus Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 SHOGO Mobile Armour Division? STALKER; Shadow of Chernobyl? It's been a long time since I played SHOGO MAD, but from what I remembered they filled those criteria your OP mentioned, but I can't remember the soundtrack. Stalker, while in this world and with many of our weapons still have a world and landscape for you to explore with care. Anomalies and A-life mutants spice it up nicely, and there are plenty of mods. Otherwise, No One Lives Forever that was previously mentioned is a blast aswell. If you want more oldschool stuff, Kingpin; Life of Crime possibly? Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. - H.L. Mencken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted April 27, 2014 Author Share Posted April 27, 2014 Unreal 1 was a great game. Though, I somehow never finished it. If I remember correct, it was highly overshadowed by Half-Life. And then with Unreal Tournament, that whole franchise changed and I don't think there was ever anything like Unreal 1 again. For me, it was the other way around. I played Unreal first, and HL afterwards and was hugely dissapointed due to the hype telling me that nothing was close to its magnificance. I still haven't to this day understood the appeal with it. Azdeus: STALKER was pretty good actually, but too same-y with it's post-apocalyptic setting. But i agree that it was a step into the right direction. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azdeus Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 (edited) I can agree with that, some little more environmental variation would'nt have hurt. If you don't mind mission based games, the Rainbow Six series is pretty neat, though quite damn hard. SWAT 4 was pretty fun aswell. Otherwise, if you're not in a serious mood, you could go for Giants; Citizen Kabuto. If you crack a rib from laughing, I will not be held accountable! Edited April 27, 2014 by Azdeus Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. - H.L. Mencken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
213374U Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Have you played Chrome? It's sci-fi and IIRC maps were large enough that there were some vehicles, but I played it so long ago that I forgot just about everything else about the game. Might be up your alley. Of course, there's also the excellent Riddick games, but those are more stealth than shooter. - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drowsy Emperor Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Riddick games are indeed excellent. И погибе Српски кнез Лазаре,И његова сва изгибе војска, Седамдесет и седам иљада;Све је свето и честито билоИ миломе Богу приступачно. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serrano Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 (edited) Shadow Warrior is actually a surprisingly good modern 90's shooter. It has colour keys, map backtracking and waves of enemies and it's just about shooting things, there are no vehicles or cover or weird gadgets beyond your katana, it's just you shooting lots of enemies with a wide variety of guns when you aren't hacking them to pieces with your katana. It has modern touches too like weapon upgrades, special sword moves and passive rpg upgrades but overall it captures the feel of games like Quake, Doom and Unreal more than anything I've seen since, well, Quake, Doom and Unreal. Lasts around 15 hours also for what that's worth and I think there is a demo on steam. Nobody bought it on release sadly but it's brilliant, it's probably what Duke Nukem Forever should have been. Edited April 27, 2014 by Serrano 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rostere Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 That's funny, I also replayed Unreal 1 the other week. I'd say there are very few modern games which fit you criteria, if I were you I'd rather go further back in time. Ergo, play Doom 1, Doom 2, Blood and Shadow Warrior. None of these have either the soundtrack or the "alien planet exploration" themes of Unreal, however. Possibly also Jedi Knight: Dark Forces 1 and 2 - when I think of it, Jedi Knight:Dark Forces 2 is probably one of the most similar games to Unreal 1 I can come up with, both with respect to level design and sci-fi theme. If you don't want to play more modern games, you might want to try Undying. That game has a rather good level design, and you really get a feeling of exploration. "Well, overkill is my middle name. And my last name. And all of my other names as well!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oner Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Sooo Unreal 1 is one of the most unique games ever? That would be kind of cool if it didn't leave us without good clones. Giveaway list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DgyQFpOJvyNASt8A12ipyV_iwpLXg_yltGG5mffvSwo/edit?usp=sharing What is glass but tortured sand?Never forget! '12.01.13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rostere Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 I've been thinking more about this, and Gunman Chronicles is IMO somewhere in between Half-Life and Unreal 1 in terms of both gameplay and atmosphere. "Well, overkill is my middle name. And my last name. And all of my other names as well!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted April 28, 2014 Author Share Posted April 28, 2014 I've played Undying as well. It had was damn good until the eternal autumn-levels. It seems like it was a fluke in terms of the FPS-genre. Oh well, maybe we will have the same discussion again in 10 years "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katphood Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 (edited) This maybe? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IlAdO5ijuE Edited April 29, 2014 by Cat Food There used to be a signature here, a really cool one...and now it's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mamoulian War Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 I think both Hexen games from Raven could be pretty close to what you describe, with the difference, that they are not sci-fi. They both are last games in their genre as well. Sent from my Stone Tablet, using Chisel-a-Talk 2000BC. My youtube channel: MamoulianFH Latest Let's Play Tales of Arise (completed) Latest Bossfight Compilation Dark Souls Remastered - New Game (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 1: Austria Grand Campaign (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 2: Xhosa Grand Campaign (completed) My PS Platinums and 100% - 29 games so far (my PSN profile) 1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours 2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours 3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours 4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours 5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours 6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours 7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours 8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC) 9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours 11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours 12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours 13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours 14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours 15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours 16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours 17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours 18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours 20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours 21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours 22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours 23) Fairy Fencer F - PS3 - 215+ hours 24) Megadimension Neptunia VII - PS4 - 160 hours 25) Super Neptunia RPG - PS4 - 44+ hours 26) Journey - PS3 - 22+ hours 27) Final Fantasy XV - PS4 - 263+ hours (including all DLCs) 28) Tales of Arise - PS4 - 111+ hours 29) Dark Souls: Remastered - PS4 - 121+ hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helz Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 I loved the Hexen games. Preferred them over Quake/Q2. They were a bit earlier then Unreal though. Here's a shot in the dark: Battlezone 2. It's a hybrid of RTS and FPS, but it had cutting edge graphics like Unreal, there were alien worlds, and it received critical acclaim but no sales. Probably not what you're looking for, but it was a great game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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