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Is this guy wielding a two handed sword with one hand and a shield?

 

A bastard sword?

 

 

Nah, the grip is way too long for a bastard sword. And a bastard sword is meant to be swung with both hands anyway. 

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Is this guy wielding a two handed sword with one hand and a shield?

 

 

It's probably just a longsword, those things were designed for two-handed use, after all. The blade does seem to be too long for one, though, but hey, I'm no specialist. At any rate, it's weird for something with that long of a hilt to be used with a shield, I don't think that was ever a thing (do correct me if I'm wrong). And it's probably not a proper two-handed sword though, I think those things are way larger. Again, I'm in no way an expert about this stuff.

 

Actually, this video:

might provide some insight. It's mostly set in the larger context of HEMA fighting, but the first few minutes especially talk about lengths of swords (specifically hilts) and such. In fact, this guy seems to know his stuff when it comes to weapons, historical fencing and stuff. You might give his videos a spin, pretty entertaining. Edited by ArtB
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Is this guy wielding a two handed sword with one hand and a shield?

 

 

It's probably just a longsword, those things were designed for two-handed use, after all. The blade does seem to be too long for one, though, but hey, I'm no specialist. At any rate, it's weird for something with that long of a hilt to be used with a shield, I don't think that was ever a thing (do correct me if I'm wrong). And it's probably not a proper two-handed sword though, I think those things are way larger. Again, I'm in no way an expert about this stuff.

 

Actually, this video:

might provide some insight. It's mostly set in the larger context of HEMA fighting, but the first few minutes especially talk about lengths of swords (specifically hilts) and such. In fact, this guy seems to know his stuff when it comes to weapons, historical fencing and stuff. You might give his videos a spin, pretty entertaining.

 

Matt Easton truly is a wonderful man. And as for the longsword with shield, there are pictures from fechtbuch of Paulus Hector Mair like this

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Matt Easton truly is a wonderful man.

 

Yes he is. I discovered his videos back in June when I was desperately looking for excuses to not study and just devoured a ton of them, great stuff.

 

 

 And as for the longsword with shield, there are pictures from fechtbuch of Paulus Hector Mair like this

 

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Very interesting! Do you know why the guy on the right is holding his sword the way he does? Seems a bit odd to my uninitiated eyes.

 

Digging the helmets, by the way. Beautiful plumage, innit? :)

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Do you know why the guy on the right is holding his sword the way he does? Seems a bit odd to my uninitiated eyes.

As he's wearing lobstered gauntlets, gripping the blade to use the weighted pommel and/or stout quillions for bludgeoning is definitely an option.

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Matt Easton truly is a wonderful man. And as for the longsword with shield, there are pictures from fechtbuch of Paulus Hector Mair like this

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Triple wielding!

Now I want to dual wield a sword and a spear and still get to have a shield!

 

No! If it's possible to dual hold in one hand, then it should be possible for both hands!

Two swords and two shields FTW!

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Enough with the plate already!

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By the way, I really dig the paladin's breastplate in the gameplay video. It looks exactly like a piece of low-grade mass-produced armor should.

 

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Yeah, it's pretty nice. Notice the level of detail!

 

Here are the armour sets that we could see in the previews:

 

Fighter

 

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The classic.

 

Barbarian

 

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From rags to stitches?

 

Paladin

 

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Digging the puffed and slashed clothing.

 

Ixamitl

 

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I really like the fact there will be regional equipment.

 

 

All in all, it looks pretty good, especially for "starter" equipment, though I can't say that I love the Ixamitl armour - it looks rather weird.

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Matt Easton truly is a wonderful man. And as for the longsword with shield, there are pictures from fechtbuch of Paulus Hector Mair like this

01.jpg

 

 

Triple wielding!

Now I want to dual wield a sword and a spear and still get to have a shield!

 

No! If it's possible to dual hold in one hand, then it should be possible for both hands!

Two swords and two shields FTW!

 

http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/64003-armour-weapon-designs-a-plea-part-iv/?p=1417656

Yeah, I already thought about occasional shield + supposedly two-hand weapon or shield + two weapons (like in Talhoffer's fechtbuch, where there is a man shown with sword, buckler and dagger in the buckler hand).

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Nah, the grip is way too long for a bastard sword. And a bastard sword is meant to be swung with both hands anyway. 

 

A bastard sword is a single handed sword with a long blade that can be wielded with both hands, so I suspect that the hilt is long enough to accommodate both hands.

 

Also I really like the Ixamitl armor. I'm ok with low tier armors being plain and simple, but I hope high tier/unique armors will be more fantasy.

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Fighter

 

KGewaZf.png

 

The classic.

 

Barbarian

 

rxpZvB6.png

 

From rags to stitches?

 

All in all, it looks pretty good, especially for "starter" equipment, though I can't say that I love the Ixamitl armour - it looks rather weird.

 

 

Two minor niggles, i'd like to see some sleeves on that mail as the upper arm seems awfully exposed, as opposed to the forearm and torso. The hide armour of the Barbarian seems to be screaming for disembowelling, or having ones legs chopped off.

 

However as poorly made starting armour, yes I think it more than covers the bases.

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I would guess that they went with cloth on the fighter's upper arm in order to give the player more space on which to display their custom colours.

 

Possibly, yes. Though in that case a surcoat (like the one Aragorn's wearing in my previous post) would work even better.

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