dimon3000 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 discuss... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blarghagh Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Best thread ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhoulishVisage Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I agree.Children are far too noisy in movies and restaurants and they're unhygienic. Also they constantly watch that horrible live-action Disney stuff. Nothing good can come of that. I say we do away with the entire business of creating children, which probably involves all sorts of dark magicks and ritual sacrifices. Not the sort of thing any upstanding citizen would involve themselves in. 1 When in doubt, blame the elves. I have always hated the word "censorship", I prefer seeing it as just removing content that isn't suitable or is considered offensive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidesco Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Is this a thread in favour of only recreational sex? 1 "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian touristI am Dan Quayle of the Romans.I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands.Heja Sverige!!Everyone should cuffawkle more.The wrench is your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Kids are alright, just leave them to the nanny. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kroney Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I find other people's procreation to be a source of constant irritation. I don't know if this answers your implied question, which I think might be "Why don't girls like me? :(" Nah, just kidding blud, you're sound. 1 Dirty deeds done cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I tell you what, why don't we split into the ayes and nayes, and let reality decide who's right? Reconvene in 100 years? 1 "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kroney Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I tell you what, why don't we split into the ayes and nayes, and let reality decide who's right? Reconvene in 100 years? Pointless. If we stop procreating, the women will spontaneously change gender because of that frog DNA and bone themselves. Life will find a way. 1 Dirty deeds done cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I tell you what, why don't we split into the ayes and nayes, and let reality decide who's right? Reconvene in 100 years? We'll all be dead by then, so wouldn't matter to us, really. The second point one could put something less ridiculous forward on though, overpopulation and so on. Which is rather silly, but not completely so. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blarghagh Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Well, we tried not procreating as much for a bit here in Holland, now we're paying through our nose in pensions because there are more old people than young people. So I guess the only solution is global genocide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hassat Hunter Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Well, we tried not procreating as much for a bit here in Holland, now we're paying through our nose in pensions because there are more old people than young people. So I guess the only solution is global genocide. That's more the result of mass-procreation shortly after WW II, then that we really started to decrease it. I think that's more something going on in China... ^ I agree that that is such a stupid idiotic pathetic garbage hateful retarded scumbag evil satanic nazi like term ever created. At least top 5. TSLRCM Official Forum || TSLRCM Moddb || My other KOTOR2 mods || TSLRCM (English version) on Steam || [M4-78EP on Steam Formerly known as BattleWookiee/BattleCookiee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonek Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Who were the gentlemen who advocated this philosophy, the Cathar's? 1 Quite an experience to live in misery isn't it? That's what it is to be married with children.I've seen things you people can't even imagine. Pearly Kings glittering on the Elephant and Castle, Morris Men dancing 'til the last light of midsummer. I watched Druid fires burning in the ruins of Stonehenge, and Yorkshiremen gurning for prizes. All these things will be lost in time, like alopecia on a skinhead. Time for tiffin. Tea for the teapot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rostere Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I don't really agree with all you children-haters... I'm finding this discussion a lot in 40K hobby as well, lots of people are really hating on "children" in the hobby. But then they kind of forget that they themselves were children once, playing 40K. I know for sure I wouldn't think 12-year old me an unworthy opponent in 40K, or chess. But of course there are also annoying children. I would mostly blame stupid parents for that, though. 2 "Well, overkill is my middle name. And my last name. And all of my other names as well!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 I understand the logic behind such an assertion. Some of you might say "but Hurlshot, you have kids, and you spend your days educating the youth!" That may be, but I am not blind to the problems that our population explosion across the globe is causing. My main issue with discouraging reproduction is this: If you win this debate, the only people that will stop procreating are those educated enough to understand your argument. That leaves two groups to carry on the next generation, those who are ignorant and those who are deliberately rebellious. Logically this will only hasten the decline of civilization. From a personal and emotional perspective, I will add that my life was lacking any real purpose until I had children. What is the point of growth and wisdom if I do not pass it on to the next generation? Sure, I can share some experience with my students. I can write a book or create something that will outlast me. But you really can't beat having your own genetic material and helping to shape it day by day into a functional adult. That sounded creepy, but I think you all get the point. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimon3000 Posted December 13, 2013 Author Share Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) Well, we tried not procreating as much for a bit here in Holland, now we're paying through our nose in pensions because there are more old people than young people.Robots will take care of old people From a personal and emotional perspective, I will add that my life was lacking any real purpose until I had children. What is the point of growth and wisdom if I do not pass it on to the next generation?Your also impose death and suffering on your children. And why should they care about your "wisdom"? But you really can't beat having your own genetic material and helping to shape it day by day into a functional adult.It would be more logical to clone yourself. Edited December 13, 2013 by dimon3000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) 100% agree with Hurlshot. In practical terms it's a non-starter. The only people who would volunteer are the people who shouldn't. And equally even I can't imagine telling a specific couple they aren't allowed kids. You try it. Imagine having to go up to two couples you know and saying "I have decided that no matter what happens and how much you love each other, you won't be allowed any kids." EDITED Anyone else's genes taking executive control? Edited December 13, 2013 by Walsingham 1 "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 This thread is pointless and unethical. Attempting to solve overpopulation and overconsumption of resources by stopping reproduction is a laughable idea. "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "I'm gonna hunt you down so that I can slap you square in the mouth." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "Am I phrasing in the most negative light for them? Yes, but it's not untrue." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimon3000 Posted December 13, 2013 Author Share Posted December 13, 2013 This thread is pointless and unethical. Attempting to solve overpopulation and overconsumption of resources by stopping reproduction is a laughable idea.Overpopulation is irrelevant. I'm talking about death, fear and suffering that all conscious beings experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kroney Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Oh Gawd Dirty deeds done cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amentep Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Well, we tried not procreating as much for a bit here in Holland, now we're paying through our nose in pensions because there are more old people than young people.Robots will take care of old people But who will take care of the robots? WON'T ANYONE THINK OF THE ROBOTS? From a personal and emotional perspective, I will add that my life was lacking any real purpose until I had children. What is the point of growth and wisdom if I do not pass it on to the next generation?Your also impose death and suffering on your children. And why should they care about your "wisdom"? "I had to face my fear...that was more important than just going on living...a tear, Sarah Jane? No, don't cry. While there's life, there's..." But you really can't beat having your own genetic material and helping to shape it day by day into a functional adult.It would be more logical to clone yourself. If he can't clone his own memory and experience, then we're back at your first complaint that he's imposing death and suffering and wisdom (not sure how those all correlate together, but I'll roll with it) on a "blank slate" entity so not really a good answer under those parameters. His best option is to be immortal and thus be ever able and eternally available to have plonkers hit him up for wisdom whenever they want at his guru mountain or something... 1 I cannot - yet I must. How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do "must" and "cannot" meet? Yet I must - but I cannot! ~ Ro-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Any line of reason which negates the reasoner is - so far as I can see - self-negating. There simply cannot exist any human rationality that advocates the elimination of humans. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 From a personal and emotional perspective, I will add that my life was lacking any real purpose until I had children. Man, that's sad. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orogun01 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) Any line of reason which negates the reasoner is - so far as I can see - self-negating. There simply cannot exist any human rationality that advocates the elimination of humans. Jersey Shore Edit: Forgot you're British. Geordie Shore Edited December 13, 2013 by Orogun01 1 I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"* *If you can't tell, it's you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Any line of reason which negates the reasoner is - so far as I can see - self-negating. There simply cannot exist any human rationality that advocates the elimination of humans. Jersey Shore Edit: Forgot you're British. Geordie Shore Unless you are actually in Geordie shore, and think the people in Geordie shore should be destroyed, then that's not exactly relevant. ;p "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orogun01 Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Any line of reason which negates the reasoner is - so far as I can see - self-negating. There simply cannot exist any human rationality that advocates the elimination of humans. Jersey Shore Edit: Forgot you're British. Geordie Shore Unless you are actually in Geordie shore, and think the people in Geordie shore should be destroyed, then that's not exactly relevant. ;p Good case for eugenics though. I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"* *If you can't tell, it's you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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