Just curiouse on who backs 10K

[Byeohazard]

Does it come from well known game celebs and folks that generally  support themselves in the industry or from the general populace that loves to game? 10k and 5K to me seems like a ton of money to put down on a chance to see a game come to friuition...even one with great promise (in my view) such as this one.

[C2B]

Does it come from well known game celebs and folks that generally  support themselves in the industry or from the general populace that loves to game? 10k and 5K to me seems like a ton of money to put down on a chance to see a game come to friuition...even one with great promise (in my view) such as this one.

Both, I imagine.

[BruceVC]

Does it come from well known game celebs and folks that generally  support themselves in the industry or from the general populace that loves to game? 10k and 5K to me seems like a ton of money to put down on a chance to see a game come to friuition...even one with great promise (in my view) such as this one.

 

Generally people will keep quiet if they were one of the large backers as it may be seen as ostentatious  to say "hey everybody I'm one of the 10k backers, look at me "

 

[Lephys]

Generally people will keep quiet if they were one of the large backers as it may be seen as ostentatious  to say "hey everybody I'm one of the 10k backers, look at me "

 

Especially if they don't post a photo immediately following that statement. Since we'd be then unable to even do as they said.

[exodiark]

Could be a company looking a way to advertise themselves
A potentially legendary RPG like PE is a timeless advertising board, hell, 100 years later, somebody might still play PE. 

[Sedrefilos]

People who live in a different world than the most of us I guess

[Agiel]

People have contributed money to far more dubious causes in the days before Kickstarter:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Save_Karyn

 

Though I don't remember if she did have one donor donate an obscene amount of money to her. At the very least, she didn't push her luck and stopped taking donations when she reached her goal.

[Longknife]

Comes from Scruffy.

[Death Machine Miyagi]

People with a high tolerance for giving out very large sums of money for questionable causes.

 

Or, in other words, people I wish were friends of mine whenever I run out of money.

[mstark]

Notch is well known for backing Kickstarter projects with a full $10k. He's one of the $10k backers for PE. That should give you an idea!

[teknoman2]

sometimes a site or comunity, make a fund raising for donating 5 or 10k to a project.

[Woldan]

Moneybags who are tired of spending their cash on Ferraris, corrupt politicians and golden water taps.  

[mstark]

I think it's a very noble thing to do, similar to artistic patronage during the renaissance.

[Gfted1]

I dunno, there were only five 10K backers. I think everyone else that contributed the remaining 3.95M deserve the real credit.

[Amentep]

 

Generally people will keep quiet if they were one of the large backers as it may be seen as ostentatious  to say "hey everybody I'm one of the 10k backers, look at me "

 

Especially if they don't post a photo immediately following that statement. Since we'd be then unable to even do as they said.

 

And after the post and the picture would be followed by the "if you have 10K to throw around can you loan me a buck" and "you made a mistake stepping in this dark alleyway - this is a stickup. I know you have money because you pledged 10K to a Kickstarter campaign".

 

Just doesn't end well...

[WotanAnubis]

I think it's a very noble thing to do, similar to artistic patronage during the renaissance.

 

That's a nice way to think about it. Isn't that kind of how Life of Brian got funded?

 

Still can't help feeling that those people still have more money than they'll ever really need.

[Leferd]

I know Steve Dengler (founder of xe.com) put up 10k for DoubleFine Adventure, Torment, and Veronica Mars. Not sure if or how much he put in for PE.

[Gromnir]

I think it's a very noble thing to do, similar to artistic patronage during the renaissance.

 

1) am not gonna begrudge folks spending their disposable income how they will.

 

if a fan wanna spend $1000 for a signed baseball card or to gets a video game made, we think that is swell. over the years we has probable spent many thousands o' dollars on games, and ridiculous sums on entertainment. not gonna be no hypocrite.

 

2) if it is similar to the artistic patronage during renaissance (which it ain't) then am gonna suggest it wouldn't be particularly noble. 

 

history o' artistic patronage in at least italian renaissance is frequent very ignoble. example: indulgences were selling at an all-time high for church. some art patronage were effective church blackmail-- rich guy is accused o' something like usury and to atone for "sin" he commissions building or painting of a church.our "noble" patron is then granted indulgence.  were also very practical and political reasons for most arts commissions. 

 

3) we is talking video games, no?

 

honestly?  *shrug*  some guy who makes $50k a year donates $10k to a promising but underfunded lukemia study. that is the kinda thing strikes us as noble. spend $10k on game development maybe is nerd-kewl, but am gonna refrain from calling it noble.

 

HA! Good Fun!

[Byeohazard]

 

Does it come from well known game celebs and folks that generally  support themselves in the industry or from the general populace that loves to game? 10k and 5K to me seems like a ton of money to put down on a chance to see a game come to friuition...even one with great promise (in my view) such as this one.

 

Generally people will keep quiet if they were one of the large backers as it may be seen as ostentatious  to say "hey everybody I'm one of the 10k backers, look at me "

 

 

LOL, I thought they would get some sort of in game mention like getting their names highlighted in gold font in the credits or designing a character or weapon for the game.

[Gfted1]

LOL, I thought they would get some sort of in game mention like getting their names highlighted in gold font in the credits or designing a character or weapon for the game.

Anyone at $500 or more gets that:

 

Pledge $500 or more

 

The Complete Kickstarter Obsidian Pack: signed COLLECTOR'S EDITION BOX (cloth map, elite cloth patch, and printed manual included) + your name and a personalized message on a MEMORIAL STONE IN-GAME...

[Amentep]

But what are the odds the tombstone says "I spent $1000 dollars and all I got was this lousy tombstone"*


*Although since its personalized, I guess it could say that

[Gromnir]

wonder if guys like mencar pebblecrusher and del (were included in bg2) knew that getting an npc named after them were worth $1k. "interplay," such as it is nowadays, just might try to bill them.

 

HA! Good Fun!

[mstark]

2) if it is similar to the artistic patronage during renaissance (which it ain't) then am gonna suggest it wouldn't be particularly noble. 

 

history o' artistic patronage in at least italian renaissance is frequent very ignoble. example: indulgences were selling at an all-time high for church. some art patronage were effective church blackmail-- rich guy is accused o' something like usury and to atone for "sin" he commissions building or painting of a church.our "noble" patron is then granted indulgence.  were also very practical and political reasons for most arts commissions.

Yes, when you hold the power and the money, you can abuse your subjects, or, as in this case, artists. Some artists would fail under their patronage, some would succeed. Without the patronage, they wouldn't even have had a chance to try. Strikingly similar to the Kickstarter situation, if not directly analogous.

 

Some famous patrons that I had in mind were people like the Medici family, Ludovico Sforza, Cesare Borgia, and King Francis I of France. It's true that neither of them can, under any circumstances, be considered an angel. However, Leonardo da Vinci, Raphael, or Michelangelo, for example, would never have had the chance to pursue their artistry if they didn't have funding (from patrons, or, if you prefer, investors).

 

Arguably, pursuing art is a noble effort. It follows, then, that funding art would be noble, too. Whether the people doing the patronizing, or the artists themselves, were noble in all their actions is beside the point.

 

One could forever argue about the philosophical definition of being noble, or whether the emergent field of video games could yet be considered an art form. Suffice it to say, in my humble opinion, artistic patronage was, and is, a noble pursuit.

 

Donating to cancer research may well be nobler, but we'd live in an awfully boring—if physically healthy—world had we never supported the creation of art.

 

You are, of course, fully entitled to "refrain from calling it noble". It is, after all, merely semantics.

Edited August 28, 2013 by mstark

[Gromnir]

"Arguably, pursuing art is a noble effort. It follows, then, that funding art would be noble, too. Whether the people doing the patronizing, or the artists themselves, were noble in all their actions is beside the point."

 

a curious syllogism. is the artist somehow noble 'cause he is doing art? is a game developer worthy o' being called an artist? how 'bout writer of jingles for tv commercials? am thinking that you takes a complex question and try to makes simple. no doubt you sees game developers as noble, but you ain't actual supported that notion. Gromnir am not so shallow as to simply throw the cloak o' nobility over the shoulders o' all artists... has known too many.  furthermore, as inherent nobility o' artists is suspect, should we not at leas ask why the patron is paying the artist?  is the cigarette manufacturer who were trying to make himself looks less like a merchant o' death and spending millions o' dollars on ad campaigns and building parks (with some o' those dollars going to artists) going to gets mstark label of "noble?" what if you pay artist to make self look good for the church or maybe to mock a political rival? if you can be answering "yes,"  then we see why you would consider medici, sforza, borgia and others to be noble because of their patronage.  no doubt there is historical exceptions, but it is a fact that pursuing/supporting art for the sake o' art is a relatively modern concept.   

 

oversimplify is rarely a good option.

 

HA! Good Fun!

Edited August 28, 2013 by Gromnir

[Lephys]

I   would   back   five   thou--sand   dollars,   ohhhh   an'   I   would   back   five   thou--sand   more,   just to BE   the   man   who   backs   ten   thou--sand   DOLLARS   an'   falls   down   at   Obsidian's door!

LA DA-DAT-daaa (LA DA-DAT-daaa)...

The official 10K backer theme song.

Or... maybe just the wish-I-could've-been-a-10K-backer theme song? o_O

Edited August 28, 2013 by Lephys