Dragon Age: Inquisition

[Serrano]

 

Morrigan is looking much better than that other pic. 

 

It'-it's not like I wanna help you stupid inquisitor. I-I just need something. Baka!

 

I actually liked the other look as well. She looks great in the new screenshot though. Nice hall by the way, it bodes well for interior aesthetic. 

Edited August 12, 2013 by Serrano

[Gorth]

She looks like my Hawke now though, awkward.

Maybe she's your mother (insert Freud commentary here) and you are the son of the Hero of Ferelden...

 

Artwork has been nice enough so far. Does look like something out of a ball at Versailles.

[Raithe]

Hm, I remember seeing something about the Spanish Inquisition actually killed far fewer "witches" then other places in Europe. They were more geared around "heresy" in more Christian related sense then worrying about "demonic influences" and "hex-ing crones"...

 

Of course, if we're going to be Inquisitors.. do we get to surprise anyone? Because you know our main weapon will have to be suprise and fear....

[NOK222]

If there's not a scene where we can't use that quote in an epic manner. No Dice

[Gorth]

Hm, I remember seeing something about the Spanish Inquisition actually killed far fewer "witches" then other places in Europe. They were more geared around "heresy" in more Christian related sense then worrying about "demonic influences" and "hex-ing crones"...

That's actually true... Witch hunts and burnings were the works of peasants and zealots. The Inquisition was created as a response to heretics (the Cathar and others). It was mostly about preventing sedition from the "one and only true faith" and cracking down on people who tried changing things.

 

Pop culture has turned it into something different (e.g. WH40k)

 

Edit: There is a kind of irony in the Roman Catholic Church inventing the inquisition, considering that they were the first heretics, deviating from the Orthodox faith, but that's of course pretty irrelevant to the game

[Raithe]

That and the whole Spanish Inquisition was slightly different from the standard Catholic Church Inquisition if I recall, it was actually established by the Spanish King..  of course, the Roman Catholic Church didn't actually disband the Office of the Inquisition until the last century, well, when I say "disband" I mean re-named and re-branded as the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith (or some such)...

 

But we're wandering into history and away from fun game related trivia..

 

Hm, did we cover the http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/07/25/fear-not-your-dragon-age-choices-will-carry-over-into-inquisition/ from a few weeks back or did I miss it?

[Orogun01]

 

 

Morrigan is looking much better than that other pic. 

 

It'-it's not like I wanna help you stupid inquisitor. I-I just need something. Baka!

Yeah about that,how is it that  a wildling from the free marches who had no contact with civilization knows how to behave in what is the epitome of noble courts in Thedas?

 

Unless a permanent gain to CHA is a side effect of bedding a Warden, in which case after my playthrough Ferelden has the most charismatic whores in all of Thedas....and one Nug

[Wrath of Dagon]

Everything I read makes it sound like the old formula. With talk about how you'll check out these side stories, like whatever the Grey Wardens are up to, sounding like hooks into gathering allies.

Sounds terrible, can Bioware even come up with an actual plot any more? (I don't want to prejudge though, initial impressions are often wrong)

[Tale]

Yeah about that,how is it that  a wildling from the free marches who had no contact with civilization knows how to behave in what is the epitome of noble courts in Thedas?

Even the old epilogue never said she behaved in the court.

[Orogun01]

 

Yeah about that,how is it that  a wildling from the free marches who had no contact with civilization knows how to behave in what is the epitome of noble courts in Thedas?

Even the old epilogue never said she behaved in the court.

 

Right, because fictional Frechmen are not snotty, sarcastic, and rude...on second thought she will fit in perfectly on Orlais

[NOK222]

 

 

 

Morrigan is looking much better than that other pic. 

 

It'-it's not like I wanna help you stupid inquisitor. I-I just need something. Baka!

Yeah about that,how is it that  a wildling from the free marches who had no contact with civilization knows how to behave in what is the epitome of noble courts in Thedas?

 

Unless a permanent gain to CHA is a side effect of bedding a Warden, in which case after my playthrough Ferelden has the most charismatic whores in all of Thedas....and one Nug

 

I don't know, Flemeth may have thought her those skills.

[pmp10]

Hm, I remember seeing something about the Spanish Inquisition actually killed far fewer "witches" then other places in Europe. They were more geared around "heresy" in more Christian related sense then worrying about "demonic influences" and "hex-ing crones"...

They didn't just killed far fewer but essentially after one trial banned the practice all-together while the rest of the Europe was just getting started on burnings and executions.

And that was Spanish Inquisition - as in loyal to Spanish Crown and not the Papacy.

The whole institution has been absurdly mis-represented in pop-culture as evidenced in this thread.

[Drowsy Emperor]

Yeah, the reality is always more boring than the fiction.

 

Except if its Biowares writing.

[Drowsy Emperor]

But it would be fun to have a protagonist who is an executioner. As the executor of orders other people created lends itself to a lot of strong moral conflicts, intrigue and drama...

 

That or I just like Gene Wolfe far too much.

Edited August 13, 2013 by Drowsy Emperor

[Enoch]

Have I mentioned lately how disappointed I was that Morrigan was one of the few jNPCs who had to survive DA:O? 

 

(Although, to Bio's credit, even when they write a character who they just know their audience will love, they still usually build in an opportunity to rebuke them at some point.  It was pretty satisfying to finally tell M just how insane I thought she was, to unload on Joker for his lack of professionalism and military decorum, and to watch the "drunken loser" Alistair epilogue.)

[Malcador]

A shame you couldn't beat up Joker though, when he nags at you in ME3 at least. Or maybe I just hate Seth Green.

[Amentep]

So are Seekers former Chantry secret service, and Inquisition wholly new organization having nothing to do with Chantry at all?

 

 

I look forward to seeing the only politically correct Inquisitor ever made.

 

[Keyrock]

A shame you couldn't beat up Joker though, when he nags at you in ME3 at least. Or maybe I just hate Seth Green.

Joker is one of the few characters I actually liked from ME.

[Enoch]

 

A shame you couldn't beat up Joker though, when he nags at you in ME3 at least. Or maybe I just hate Seth Green.

Joker is one of the few characters I actually liked from ME.

 

 

My take was that commanding officers in a Marines-type culture don't often get along too well with inferior officers who are disrespectful of the chain of command, who are clearly physically unfit for service, and who go by ridiculous self-applied nicknames, but who get special treatment because they can do fancy techy things well.  (See, e.g., USMC's attitude toward the Navy; everybody in the military's attitude towards military pilots.)  Not to mention the fact that his insubordination was clearly responsible for Shep getting spaced in the ME2 intro.

 

He was so clearly written to get the player to like him, that I felt it was my duty to roleplay Shep more faithfully as a Marine, rather than as an avatar for a nerd playing an RPG.  "Shep hates Joker" actually works reasonably well as a counter-narrative to the series. 

[Keyrock]

 

 

A shame you couldn't beat up Joker though, when he nags at you in ME3 at least. Or maybe I just hate Seth Green.

Joker is one of the few characters I actually liked from ME.

 

 

My take was that commanding officers in a Marines-type culture don't often get along too well with inferior officers who are disrespectful of the chain of command, who are clearly physically unfit for service, and who go by ridiculous self-applied nicknames, but who get special treatment because they can do fancy techy things well.  (See, e.g., USMC's attitude toward the Navy; everybody in the military's attitude towards military pilots.)  Not to mention the fact that his insubordination was clearly responsible for Shep getting spaced in the ME2 intro.

 

He was so clearly written to get the player to like him, that I felt it was my duty to roleplay Shep more faithfully as a Marine, rather than as an avatar for a nerd playing an RPG.  "Shep hates Joker" actually works reasonably well as a counter-narrative to the series. 

 

Yes, but if decades of action movie convention have taught me anything, it's that the renegade who doesn't follow the chain of command and marches to the beat of his own drummer is, without exception, the only man for the job.  Movies don't lie, man, movies don't lie.

Edited August 13, 2013 by Keyrock

[Tale]

I still don't understand what Joker actually does on that ship.

 

It couldn't be important, his chair is in the most vulnerable section. They even give him a window that serves no purpose except to make him feel special.

[alanschu]

Have I mentioned lately how disappointed I was that Morrigan was one of the few jNPCs who had to survive DA:O? 

 

(Although, to Bio's credit, even when they write a character who they just know their audience will love, they still usually build in an opportunity to rebuke them at some point.  It was pretty satisfying to finally tell M just how insane I thought she was, to unload on Joker for his lack of professionalism and military decorum, and to watch the "drunken loser" Alistair epilogue.)

 

You can actually tell Morrigan to pike off and she does.

Though I don't know if she returns to offer the dark ritual or not.

[Keyrock]

I still don't understand what Joker actually does on that ship.

 

It couldn't be important, his chair is in the most vulnerable section. They even give him a window that serves no purpose except to make him feel special.

He makes teh jokez, isn't that important enough?  Levity is the backbone of any successful military or paramilitary operation.  Just look as the A-Team, which was practically a documentary.

 

Also, Why y'all hatin' on space cripples?  What did space cripples ever do to you?

Edited August 13, 2013 by Keyrock

[Enoch]

 

Have I mentioned lately how disappointed I was that Morrigan was one of the few jNPCs who had to survive DA:O? 

 

(Although, to Bio's credit, even when they write a character who they just know their audience will love, they still usually build in an opportunity to rebuke them at some point.  It was pretty satisfying to finally tell M just how insane I thought she was, to unload on Joker for his lack of professionalism and military decorum, and to watch the "drunken loser" Alistair epilogue.)

 

You can actually tell Morrigan to pike off and she does.

Though I don't know if she returns to offer the dark ritual or not.

 

 

I think I knew that at some point, but it's been a long time.  The first time I played the game, I kept everybody around for purely meta-gamey reasons.  I didn't want to miss any potentially interesting content.  If I ever do feel the urge to replay DAO, yeah, Morrigan is getting ditched, and Zevran is getting offed.  I can do without that one dragon fight.

 

PC Mage, Shale, Wynne, and whoever is most plot-relevant for the current quest.  (If none, Sten.) 

[Drowsy Emperor]

I still don't understand what Joker actually does on that ship.

 

It couldn't be important, his chair is in the most vulnerable section. They even give him a window that serves no purpose except to make him feel special.

 

Bioware can't resist even fictional affirmative action.