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[SadExchange]

Yep, even as a PC gamer, you need a Xbox 360 controller these days. Hunted or Batman play os much better with it.

 

I will concur with Batman for sure and even playing L.A. Noire lately has been really good with a xbox gamepad.

[Gorgon]

Do you need a special one for PC or is it USB. Actually with all the cords under my table the wireless one sounds good.

[Calax]

Do you need a special one for PC or is it USB. Actually with all the cords under my table the wireless one sounds good.

It's USB. Actually, it's the reason you'll never find a wired one at gamestop, they stopped makin em and people either kept em for pc gaming pads, or gave em away with the systems that they traded in.

[Morgoth]

Do you need a special one for PC or is it USB. Actually with all the cords under my table the wireless one sounds good.

A normal 360 pad works, there are official PC drivers on the MS homepage. There's also a wireless version bundled with a WLAN adapter for PC, though it's a bit more expensive.

 

Don't go with a no-name or PS controller, as these ar often not recognized by games. There are work-arounds, but these are not always optimal.

Edited January 3, 2012 by Morgoth

[Gorth]

Do you need a special one for PC or is it USB. Actually with all the cords under my table the wireless one sounds good.

A normal 360 pad works, there are official PC drivers on the MS homepage. There's also a wireless version bundled with a WLAN adapter for PC, though it's a bit more expensive.

 

Don't go with a no-name or PS controller, as these ar often not recognized by games. There are work-arounds, but these are not always optimal.

Microsoft's own xbox360 controller for PC's is almost too well recognised by games. I've had quite a few where I needed to physically unplug it because the game refused to use my joystick settings, despite selecting that as input device

[Hassat Hunter]

Got L.A. Noire too. Haven't tried it yet though.

 

People had issues with AA with keyboard and mouse? What else would one use? It was pathetically easy (on normal) to fight. Then again sneaking was the main difficulty, where fighting controls don't matter.

 

DX:HR's convo-battles are some of the best parts of the game (the worst? Boss fights). Also, both AP, DX and DX:HR share... Pistol is overpowered. Why get a machinegun when it's soooo much more powerful?

[Bos_hybrid]

Nothing? Seems a fair bit to me - crappy tactical shooter mechanics tacked onto an RPG with your stat based upgrade system that tries to do everything but isn't great in anything, and oh yeah, embarrassing boss battles. Alpha Protocol does do one thing pretty great though, the dialogue system, including it's decent characters. Deus Ex looks like a similiar experience with weaker character interaction, the sole thing that makes Alpha Protocol enjoyable.

 

What a joke. Deus Ex is enjoyable for it's game play, story and dialogue. AP is a tedious game with good dialogue. Also AP boss battles are worse then DX:HR. The reason DX:HR bosses are so heavily criticized(and rightfully so) is because the rest of the game is so much better.

[Gorgon]

Does the one with a wireless adapter have a power cord or is it just a small usb dongle type thing. Are the batteries rechargable ? I assume the PC one works on the Xbox as well ?

[Tale]

By default, wireless 360 controllers do not come with a charge cord or rechargeable batteries. You have to buy a "plug and play kit" for that. Some controllers may be packaged with a plug and play kit, but you'll have to double check.

[Morgoth]

I assume the PC one works on the Xbox as well ?

Yes.

 

Does the one with a wireless adapter have a power cord or is it just a small usb dongle type thing. Are the batteries rechargable ?

No. Btw, I was wrong when I said they come bundled. The WLAN adapter is a seperate device, you can get one very cheaply on ebay if you want. The wireless 360 pad needs 2 AA batteries, or alternatively, the a charging Kit (akkumulator with USB cord, ~20 bucks).

[Nepenthe]

Is Deus Ex anything more than an over hyped Alpha Protocol?

I didn't realise the two games had anything in common. Wait, I still don't.

 

Nothing? Seems a fair bit to me - crappy tactical shooter mechanics tacked onto an RPG with your stat based upgrade system that tries to do everything but isn't great in anything, and oh yeah, embarrassing boss battles. Alpha Protocol does do one thing pretty great though, the dialogue system, including it's decent characters. Deus Ex looks like a similiar experience with weaker character interaction, the sole thing that makes Alpha Protocol enjoyable.

I dunno, I disagree with everything you say here. The two certainly play completely differently. And I actually like them both.

 

If gaming's become such a chore, maybe you should pick up knitting or zumba.

[Blodhemn]

Nothing? Seems a fair bit to me - crappy tactical shooter mechanics tacked onto an RPG with your stat based upgrade system that tries to do everything but isn't great in anything, and oh yeah, embarrassing boss battles. Alpha Protocol does do one thing pretty great though, the dialogue system, including it's decent characters. Deus Ex looks like a similiar experience with weaker character interaction, the sole thing that makes Alpha Protocol enjoyable.

 

What a joke. Deus Ex is enjoyable for it's game play, story and dialogue. AP is a tedious game with good dialogue. Also AP boss battles are worse then DX:HR. The reason DX:HR bosses are so heavily criticized(and rightfully so) is because the rest of the game is so much better.

 

Looks like a **** game that only fanboys could enjoy.

[Blodhemn]

Is Deus Ex anything more than an over hyped Alpha Protocol?

I didn't realise the two games had anything in common. Wait, I still don't.

 

Nothing? Seems a fair bit to me - crappy tactical shooter mechanics tacked onto an RPG with your stat based upgrade system that tries to do everything but isn't great in anything, and oh yeah, embarrassing boss battles. Alpha Protocol does do one thing pretty great though, the dialogue system, including it's decent characters. Deus Ex looks like a similiar experience with weaker character interaction, the sole thing that makes Alpha Protocol enjoyable.

I dunno, I disagree with everything you say here. The two certainly play completely differently. And I actually like them both.

 

If gaming's become such a chore, maybe you should pick up knitting or zumba.

 

Or I could pick up you and body slam you.

[Bos_hybrid]

Nothing? Seems a fair bit to me - crappy tactical shooter mechanics tacked onto an RPG with your stat based upgrade system that tries to do everything but isn't great in anything, and oh yeah, embarrassing boss battles. Alpha Protocol does do one thing pretty great though, the dialogue system, including it's decent characters. Deus Ex looks like a similiar experience with weaker character interaction, the sole thing that makes Alpha Protocol enjoyable.

 

What a joke. Deus Ex is enjoyable for it's game play, story and dialogue. AP is a tedious game with good dialogue. Also AP boss battles are worse then DX:HR. The reason DX:HR bosses are so heavily criticized(and rightfully so) is because the rest of the game is so much better.

 

Looks like a **** game that only fanboys could enjoy.

 

Funny coming from someone like you.

 

Or I could pick up you and body slam you.

 

 

Are you a child?

Edited January 3, 2012 by Bos_hybrid

[Malcador]

AP was fun to play, but I don't think it compares well to DX:HR. Oh well, maybe some day Obsidian will do it, heh.

[entrerix]

i remember Alpha Protocol having very clunky shooting and stealth mechanics, Deus Ex HR felt much smoother to play. I also hated choosing stances in Alpha Protocol, I prefer being able to choose what my character actually says.

 

still, AP wasn't a terrible game, and with better design from the ground up it could have been great

[Tigranes]

DXHR was a more polished game and it had a better combination of features that interlinked together. AP was more schizophrenic, more up and down, and sometimes downright odd. That said, I had a lot more fun with AP, the nonlinearity it provided was really unique these days and the combat also had its fun moments, especially with explosives and the like. I also found the DXHR story/dialogue pretty dull, it flirted with transhumanism stuff but never really got interesting stuff out of it. AP's story wasn't anything special either but it had interesting delivery.

 

Both good games, maybe one thing AP could have learnt from DXHR is the larger and impressive level design, DXHR from AP the nonlinearity.

[HoonDing]

DX:HR was pretty bland overall, and didn't really have anything memorable about it. All I remember of the game was Garrett or somesuch (what was the protagonist's name again anyway) acting like a complete idiot in cutscenes.

Edited January 3, 2012 by virumor

[Morgoth]

...but then again, when was the last time I played a memorable game anyway? Or maybe it's just my braincells dying off....whatever.

 

Either way, DX:HR was pretty cool, but I wouldn't want to replay it again.

[Oner]

DXHR was a more polished game and it had a better combination of features that interlinked together. AP was more schizophrenic, more up and down, and sometimes downright odd. That said, I had a lot more fun with AP, the nonlinearity it provided was really unique these days and the combat also had its fun moments, especially with explosives and the like. I also found the DXHR story/dialogue pretty dull, it flirted with transhumanism stuff but never really got interesting stuff out of it. AP's story wasn't anything special either but it had interesting delivery.

 

Both good games, maybe one thing AP could have learnt from DXHR is the larger and impressive level design, DXHR from AP the nonlinearity.

This is the best comparison here, I have to say.

[Blodhemn]

Nothing? Seems a fair bit to me - crappy tactical shooter mechanics tacked onto an RPG with your stat based upgrade system that tries to do everything but isn't great in anything, and oh yeah, embarrassing boss battles. Alpha Protocol does do one thing pretty great though, the dialogue system, including it's decent characters. Deus Ex looks like a similiar experience with weaker character interaction, the sole thing that makes Alpha Protocol enjoyable.

 

What a joke. Deus Ex is enjoyable for it's game play, story and dialogue. AP is a tedious game with good dialogue. Also AP boss battles are worse then DX:HR. The reason DX:HR bosses are so heavily criticized(and rightfully so) is because the rest of the game is so much better.

 

Looks like a **** game that only fanboys could enjoy.

 

Funny coming from someone like you.

 

Or I could pick up you and body slam you.

 

 

Are you a child?

 

Not a child but me brain hurts. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxSbOQBde58

[Nepenthe]

Is Deus Ex anything more than an over hyped Alpha Protocol?

I didn't realise the two games had anything in common. Wait, I still don't.

 

Nothing? Seems a fair bit to me - crappy tactical shooter mechanics tacked onto an RPG with your stat based upgrade system that tries to do everything but isn't great in anything, and oh yeah, embarrassing boss battles. Alpha Protocol does do one thing pretty great though, the dialogue system, including it's decent characters. Deus Ex looks like a similiar experience with weaker character interaction, the sole thing that makes Alpha Protocol enjoyable.

I dunno, I disagree with everything you say here. The two certainly play completely differently. And I actually like them both.

 

If gaming's become such a chore, maybe you should pick up knitting or zumba.

 

Or I could pick up you and body slam you.

I don't even need to think of a witty answer to this, you've already ridiculed yourself. :D

[Hassat Hunter]

I also hated choosing stances in Alpha Protocol, I prefer being able to choose what my character actually says.

While Dx:HR used the same system, that hovering over it actually displays the line (or 2) Adam says afterwards really helps.

With the "ME-conversation wheel" becoming more common ( ) I wish they would all do something like that.

 

Then again, why use that stupid wheel then in the first place...

[Rosbjerg]

I've got a 50% off coupon on the title Capsized - it's not a game I'm going to play so if anyone wants it (or wants to trade someting they won't use), just add me or write me on Steam.

[mkreku]

First time I felt that the holiday sales on Steam was a disappointment. I think I got maybe 2 or 3 titles and I already forgot which they were' I only bought them because they were cheap, not because of interest.

 

I bought Avadon: The Black Fortress.. and Dungeons of Dredmor (which I love). Other than that? No idea.