CoM_Solaufein Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Back to Vegas with Old Blue Eyes and Elvis. War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is StrengthBaldur's Gate moddingTeamBGBaldur's Gate modder/community leaderBaldur's Gate - Enhanced Edition beta testerBaldur's Gate 2 - Enhanced Edition beta tester Icewind Dale - Enhanced Edition beta tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pop Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 So here's a question. Does the rep system use an all-purpose numerical score at all times or are there specific things you can get called out for? ex. "Hey you're the guy who's been causing trouble for the Legion" vs. "Hey you're the guy who tased my bro at Gulliver's Gulch" Join me, and we shall make Production Beards a reality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckmann Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 So here's a question. Does the rep system use an all-purpose numerical score at all times or are there specific things you can get called out for? ex. "Hey you're the guy who's been causing trouble for the Legion" vs. "Hey you're the guy who tased my bro at Gulliver's Gulch"It seems it's the latter, judging from the popups that came in the trailer/show-and-tell thingomajig. Sure, all they did was blow people up and it went from "Disliked" to "Actively trying to shoot you", but I didn't actually -see- anything suggesting numerical values on the reputation side. It would also be consistent with how reputation worked pre-FO3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorton_AP Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 I'm pretty sure the first two Fallout's just used a number for reputation. My guess is, based on your description, is that FONV does as well. You just don't see the numbers. Unless you're referring to faction specific numbers which I think is different than FO3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wombat Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 So here's a question. Does the rep system use an all-purpose numerical score at all times or are there specific things you can get called out for? ex. "Hey you're the guy who's been causing trouble for the Legion" vs. "Hey you're the guy who tased my bro at Gulliver's Gulch"I'm not a techie but I think there would be both. At Sammael's "the Black Hound" (also known as Jefferson) site, you can see the prototype of reputation system*. Like influence system, it's basically numerical tracking system but, probably, the designers will also include flag-based conversation tracking time to time. For generally speaking, the numerical tracking system is suitable for free roaming world since it doesn't require the players to deal with the NPCs in a certain orders while flags are suitable for more specific conversations. *However, since Jefferson's reputation system was a prototype, it had a serious issue: it had too many factors that the content couldn't be filled although I guess Obsidian must be more experienced with it and probably made it more "resource-friendly" by now. Two main factions sound quite reasonable. BTW, talking of limited resource, in an interview at RPS, Pagliarulo mentioned the limitation of consoles. For Oblivion, we came close to running out of space on the disc for just the audio. So when you want to have that many people to talk to, with this giant open world with all these people there are technical limitations which present themselves which other studios have tried to handle and have had problem with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oner Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 I'm pretty sure the first two Fallout's just used a number for reputation.Yeah but NPCs also called you out on wearing Power Armor, being a box champ, a porn star etc. Giveaway list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DgyQFpOJvyNASt8A12ipyV_iwpLXg_yltGG5mffvSwo/edit?usp=sharing What is glass but tortured sand?Never forget! '12.01.13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorstUsernameEver Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 BTW, talking of limited resource, in an interview at RPS, Pagliarulo mentioned the limitation of consoles.For Oblivion, we came close to running out of space on the disc for just the audio. So when you want to have that many people to talk to, with this giant open world with all these people there are technical limitations which present themselves which other studios have tried to handle and have had problem with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wombat Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 Pagliarulo was bull****ting.That's what he was doing. Fallout 3 has a fair share of dialogue, but your average Bioware's game has more. How the hell can they pull it off in a console game? MYSTARY! Yea..., since we can put hours and hours of music in portables with compressed formats (Mostly MP3 but, for games, do they use ogg?), it sounds...er...cattle excrement. Then again, Gamebryo is Beth's engine. So, why should he tell a lie which must be transparent to those who are familiar with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorstUsernameEver Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 (edited) Yea..., since we can put hours and hours of music in portables with compressed formats (Mostly MP3 but, for games, do they use ogg?), it sounds...er...cattle excrement. Then again, Gamebryo is Beth's engine. So, why should he tell a lie which must be transparent to those who are familiar with it? You should ask Pagliarulo. But really, Oblivion doesn't have that much dialogue as far as I remember. Yeah, the world is big, I mean, REALLY big, but the npcs always say the same things (Fallout 3 was a huge step forward from that pov imho). Edited July 11, 2010 by WorstUsernameEver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bos_hybrid Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 Yeah, the world is big, I mean, REALLY big, but the npcs always say the same things (Fallout 3 was a huge step forward from that pov imho). Oblivion had 15 Voice actors for the whole game. FO3 had 35, so yeah big improvement. Still well behind ME (73) or NWN2 (61). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILL THE ALMIGHTY Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 FO3 had Liam Neeson (<3), and all the games so far had Ron Pearlman. Do we get any star actors for FO:NV? "Alright, I've been thinking. When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade - make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons, what am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager. Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons. Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons. I'm going to to get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorstUsernameEver Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 FO3 had Liam Neeson (<3), and all the games so far had Ron Pearlman. Do we get any star actors for FO:NV? Liam Neeson sucked in Fallout 3 though. It was like he didn't even care. As for New Vegas, we are getting Ren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkreku Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 And Ron Perlman too, 99%, he was present in a teaser but hasn't been confirmed. Then again, what would be a Fallout without his narration? It would be Fallout. You guys get hung up on the dumbest of details. Swedes, go to: Spel2, for the latest game reviews in swedish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pop Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 FO3 had Liam Neeson (<3), and all the games so far had Ron Pearlman. Do we get any star actors for FO:NV? Mr. House is definitely going to be a Name, that's just science. Since VA is being recorded presently there's not much they're saying. The rumor is that Wayne Newton will be doing some voicing, perhaps for a radio station. Inquiries have been met with a "no comment". Take that how you will. Join me, and we shall make Production Beards a reality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oner Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 (edited) FO3 had Liam Neeson (<3), and all the games so far had Ron Pearlman. Do we get any star actors for FO:NV? Liam Neeson sucked in Fallout 3 though. It was like he didn't even care. As for New Vegas, we are getting Ren Edited July 11, 2010 by Oner Giveaway list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DgyQFpOJvyNASt8A12ipyV_iwpLXg_yltGG5mffvSwo/edit?usp=sharing What is glass but tortured sand?Never forget! '12.01.13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syraxis Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 Then again, what would be a Fallout without his narration? Perlman is just a nod to the first two, he's unnecessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oner Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 (edited) Then again, what would be a Fallout without his narration? Perlman is just a nod to the first two, he's unnecessary. Groin shots are unnecessary too. And a lot of other things. Edited July 11, 2010 by Oner Giveaway list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DgyQFpOJvyNASt8A12ipyV_iwpLXg_yltGG5mffvSwo/edit?usp=sharing What is glass but tortured sand?Never forget! '12.01.13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILL THE ALMIGHTY Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 (edited) Then again, what would be a Fallout without his narration? Perlman is just a nod to the first two, he's unnecessary. If we're going to have a narrator, might as well be Ron Perlman. Or maybe Lance Henrikson. Keith David would be pretty cool too, can't get enough of Keith David. Edited July 11, 2010 by WILL THE ALMIGHTY "Alright, I've been thinking. When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade - make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons, what am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager. Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons. Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons. I'm going to to get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckmann Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 (edited) Then again, what would be a Fallout without his narration? Perlman is just a nod to the first two, he's unnecessary. Groin shots are unnecessary too. [...] You shut your whore mouth! Edited July 11, 2010 by Luckmann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorstUsernameEver Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 FO3 had Liam Neeson (<3), and all the games so far had Ron Pearlman. Do we get any star actors for FO:NV? Mr. House is definitely going to be a Name, that's just science. Since VA is being recorded presently there's not much they're saying. The rumor is that Wayne Newton will be doing some voicing, perhaps for a radio station. Inquiries have been met with a "no comment". Take that how you will. Actually they have already confirmed the presence of Wayne Newton as the radio presenter Mr.New Vegas. And they concluded the VA recording a couple of days ago, link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oner Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 Then again, what would be a Fallout without his narration? Perlman is just a nod to the first two, he's unnecessary. Groin shots are unnecessary too. [...] You shut your whore mouth! I was making a point Mr Compensator. Giveaway list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DgyQFpOJvyNASt8A12ipyV_iwpLXg_yltGG5mffvSwo/edit?usp=sharing What is glass but tortured sand?Never forget! '12.01.13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckmann Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 Then again, what would be a Fallout without his narration? Perlman is just a nod to the first two, he's unnecessary. Groin shots are unnecessary too. [...] You shut your whore mouth! I was making a point Mr Compensator. Don't you even dare to insinuate crotch-shots are unnecessary, even in jest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorstUsernameEver Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 Also talks about Arcanum and TOEE, but that's not really related to the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckmann Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 Also talks about Arcanum and TOEE, but that's not really related to the topic. I love how he tries very hard to find nice things about Fallout 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwars Posted July 12, 2010 Share Posted July 12, 2010 Really enjoyed these interviews, both with Chris and Tim Cain. Good stuff. Wish there had been some more questions regarding Troika in general as well as Bloodlines, but can't have everything. I think his views on F3 makes sense. Since it was set on the East Coast (which was a great idea I think), I was pretty disappointed that they re-used things such as the Super Mutants and FEV so heavily. But yeah... I always hoped they'd keep more of the original gameplay but break away from the lore of the old games (since it's a different setting) but oh well. Finding it hard to get excited about MMOs these days but his ideas are pretty much what I always wanted from MMOs. Will be hard to break into that market for sure but hopefully it can lead to something good. Listen to my home-made recordings (some original songs, some not): http://www.youtube.c...low=grid&view=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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