Attacks on Children in China

[Walsingham]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/...l-in-China.html

 

Is anyone else aware of so extreme a crime being copycatted so frequently in so short a time? I can't think of a single example.

[RPGmasterBoo]

Yeah, what the hell is going on?

What's behind this actually?

 

Amok:

Although commonly used in a colloquial and less-violent sense, the phrase is particularly associated with a specific sociopathic culture-bound syndrome in Malaysian culture. In a typical case of running amok, a male who has shown no previous sign of anger or any inclination to violence will acquire a weapon and, in a sudden frenzy, will attempt to kill or seriously injure anyone he encounters. Amok episodes of this kind normally end with the attacker being killed by bystanders, or committing suicide.

The syndrome of "Amok" is found in the DSM-IV TR.[4]

 

I know its an asian thing, but even so its a bit much.

[Walsingham]

The weird thing is that many commentators are blaming the rapid pace of change, and feeling of powerlessness and alienation in modern China. This is weird because it's essentially the symptoms of a 'futsie' (future shocked) person in the comic Judge Dredd. Futsies have been in the comic as long as I can remember.

[Orogun01]

Yeah, what the hell is going on?

What's behind this actually?

 

Amok:

Although commonly used in a colloquial and less-violent sense, the phrase is particularly associated with a specific sociopathic culture-bound syndrome in Malaysian culture. In a typical case of running amok, a male who has shown no previous sign of anger or any inclination to violence will acquire a weapon and, in a sudden frenzy, will attempt to kill or seriously injure anyone he encounters. Amok episodes of this kind normally end with the attacker being killed by bystanders, or committing suicide.

The syndrome of "Amok" is found in the DSM-IV TR.[4]

 

I know its an asian thing, but even so its a bit much.

Doesn't explain the copycats and going postal is not just an asian thing.

 

Walsh@: But a lot of societies have undergone rapid changes in the past and feelings of alienation, none tried to connect by copying murder. Also it's not completely random violence, the targets are children.

[Moose]

I guess if you're put into the world of Soylent Green, blame lies with the breeders in society, and the easy way to hurt them is to stab their children. How's that for a theory.

[Masterfade]

I see this more as a communist thing than an asian thing.

[kirottu]

China should have banned all the knives after the first attack and none of this would have happened.

[Walsingham]

China should have banned all the knives after the first attack and none of this would have happened.

 

I think they should go further and ban anything triangular.

[lord of flies]

The rule of international finance capital strikes the Chinese people once more, this time by pushing the citizens of China to the point of committing acts of violence against their nation's children. But let's blame communism and "those wacky asians" instead.

[Enoch]

Amok:

Although commonly used in a colloquial and less-violent sense, the phrase is particularly associated with a specific sociopathic culture-bound syndrome in Malaysian culture. In a typical case of running amok, a male who has shown no previous sign of anger or any inclination to violence will acquire a weapon and, in a sudden frenzy, will attempt to kill or seriously injure anyone he encounters. Amok episodes of this kind normally end with the attacker being killed by bystanders, or committing suicide.

The syndrome of "Amok" is found in the DSM-IV TR.[4]

Pffft. Let me know when they've really gone amok.

[Volourn]

"The rule of international finance capital strikes the Chinese people once more, this time by pushing the citizens of China to the point of committing acts of violence against their nation's children. But let's blame communism and "those wacky asians" instead."

 

wut? So it's westerners' fault that chinese adults are murderirng chinese children? wth?

[Enoch]

The mods have cleaned this one up a bit, haven't they?

[Gorgon]

Ohh so it wasn't early onset Alzheimer's

[Gorgon]

I wonder if that's their new tactic. Hit and run.

[I want teh kotor 3]

The rule of international finance capital strikes the Chinese people once more, this time by pushing the citizens of China to the point of committing acts of violence against their nation's children. But let's blame communism and "those wacky asians" instead.

 

Even for you this makes no sense LoF.

[Gfted1]

The mods have cleaned this one up a bit, haven't they?

 

Ah, self appointed mods, what praytell offends your delicate sensibilities? The post quote from Boo that explains a very select act predominately executed by Asians? Seriously? Careful, Hurlshot may puke on you.

[Gorgon]

Nahh, someone just came up with a special term for something that happens all over.

[Oblarg]

The rule of international finance capital strikes the Chinese people once more, this time by pushing the citizens of China to the point of committing acts of violence against their nation's children. But let's blame communism and "those wacky asians" instead.

 

I do hope you're trolling.

 

Criminals exist in every society, and I highly doubt these murders are at all related to Western economics.

 

Not that the earlier posts were reasonable, mind you.

Edited May 12, 2010 by Oblarg

[Meshugger]

Where the hell did my post go?

[RPGmasterBoo]

The mods have cleaned this one up a bit, haven't they?

 

Ah, self appointed mods, what praytell offends your delicate sensibilities? The post quote from Boo that explains a very select act predominately executed by Asians? Seriously? Careful, Hurlshot may puke on you.

 

Jeez I was just relaying what the wikipedia article said, and noted a recent case on these parts that seems to be similar. This may clear up the issue.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amok

 

The explanation which is now most widely accepted is that amok is closely related to male honor (amok by women is virtually unknown). In many cases where the background of the amok-runner is known, there seems to have been some element of deep shame which prevented the man from living honorably, as he saw it, in his own society. Running amok was both a way of escaping the world (since perpetrators were normally killed) and re-establishing one's reputation as a man to be feared and respected. Some observers have related this explanation to Islam's ban on suicide, which, it is suggested, drove Malay men to create circumstances in which others would kill them. Evidence for this explanation is that the incidence of amok seems to be less where amok runners are captured and tried, rather than being beaten to death on the spot.

 

Amok is often described as a culture-bound (or culture-specific) syndrome,[6][7] which is a psychological condition whose manifestation is strongly shaped by cultural factors. Other reported culture-bound syndromes are latah and koro. Amok is also sometimes considered one of the subcategories of dissociative disorders (cross-cultural variant).

Behaviour strongly reminiscent of amok is also found in Western societies, and indeed the term is often used to refer to the behaviour of someone who, in the grip of strong emotion, obtains a weapon and begins attacking people indiscriminately, often with multiple fatalities. The slang term going postal is similar in intent and more common today, particularly in North America. Police describe such an event as a killing spree. If the individual is seeking death an alternate method is often suicide by cop.

[~Di]

There must be something in the water. Attacking very young children... damn. I can't wrap my brain around these horrific acts.

[Orogun01]

Maybe; and I say this without any bigotry, its because they are Chinese. They have laws to restrict procreation and overpopulation is an issue, could be resentment developed through the years.

[lord of flies]

@ everyone who thinks "international finance capital" means "western imperialism":

 

congrats, you're even more mired in 19th century thinking than me. the bourgeoisie has gradually edged out huge numbers non-bourgeoisie ruling elements across the planet, whether they be feudal lords, reactionary kings or theocrats. they have replaced, systematically and unhesitatingly, every one of these wannabe capitalists that they could get their sticky little fingers around. Bourgeois culture is not the culture of a nation or people, it is the culture of the investor. the internationalism of the bourgeoisie can only be defeated by the internationalism of the proletariat: that is, by the systematic rejection of the concepts of cultural reaction, i.e. the hatred of other peoples.

[Humodour]

Is it possible lof is multiple people? Like 3 or 4 commie/anarchist uni students sharing the account around?

[lord of flies]

Is it possible lof is multiple people? Like 3 or 4 commie/anarchist uni students sharing the account around?

Yes. I am an alt shared by Krezack, Walsingham, 213374U, Sand, and TrueNeutral. Everyone on that list is complicit in my behavior and should be banned if I wind up getting banned.