Bos_hybrid Posted June 22, 2010 Posted June 22, 2010 (edited) ... so we've established Deus Ex 3 had a bland and clich Edited June 22, 2010 by Bos_hybrid
Slowtrain Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 Its easy to say when you've played hundreds of games that seem to regard saturday morning cartoons as deep and complex narrative. Notice how I can belittle your beliefs without calling you names. It's a useful skill to have particularly where you aren't allowed to call people names. It's a mistake to get too drawn in/worked up. I mean it's not life or death, it's just two guys posting their thoughts on a message board. If it were personal or face to face all the usual restraints would be in place, and we would never have reached this place in the first place. Try to remember that.
mkreku Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 Its easy to say when you've played hundreds of games that seem to regard saturday morning cartoons as deep and complex narrative. Yes, you're incredibly deep and nothing comes close to the standard your massively intelligent brain demands. We get it. Swedes, go to: Spel2, for the latest game reviews in swedish!
Nightshape Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 Its easy to say when you've played hundreds of games that seem to regard saturday morning cartoons as deep and complex narrative. Yes, you're incredibly deep and nothing comes close to the standard your massively intelligent brain demands. We get it. LMFAO! I came up with Crate 3.0 technology. Crate 4.0 - we shall just have to wait and see.Down and out on the Solomani RimNow the Spinward Marches don't look so GRIM!
Slowtrain Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 (edited) Its easy to say when you've played hundreds of games that seem to regard saturday morning cartoons as deep and complex narrative. Yes, you're incredibly deep and nothing comes close to the standard your massively intelligent brain demands. We get it. *shrug* If that's the way you want to look at it, it's cool. I've played a lot of games that I like, most of those, such as Jag 2, XCOM, Wizardy 8, don't really have stories, just rules and objectives and gameplay. Computer games don't need stories to be fun. They need gameplay that holds interest in some way. And when games do get a heavy-handed story treatment, the result is almost always quite painful. Not universally so, true, but it's the exception that proves the rule. edit: And just to point out I haven't actually made any remarks (at least not recently) one way or the other about the story of DX3. Perhaps it will be awesome. Perhaps not. I don't really care. I'm more interested in the gameplay, specifically, how removing skills will affect the complexity of the game. Edited June 23, 2010 by Slowtrain Notice how I can belittle your beliefs without calling you names. It's a useful skill to have particularly where you aren't allowed to call people names. It's a mistake to get too drawn in/worked up. I mean it's not life or death, it's just two guys posting their thoughts on a message board. If it were personal or face to face all the usual restraints would be in place, and we would never have reached this place in the first place. Try to remember that.
Pop Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 (edited) 20 minutes of (probably illegally obtained) gameplay footage. Looks like they've got the cyberpunk look down. Edited June 23, 2010 by Pop Join me, and we shall make Production Beards a reality!
Tel Aviv Posted June 23, 2010 Posted June 23, 2010 Its easy to say when you've played hundreds of games that seem to regard saturday morning cartoons as deep and complex narrative. Yes, you're incredibly deep and nothing comes close to the standard your massively intelligent brain demands. We get it. *shrug* If that's the way you want to look at it, it's cool. I've played a lot of games that I like, most of those, such as Jag 2, XCOM, Wizardy 8, don't really have stories, just rules and objectives and gameplay. Computer games don't need stories to be fun. They need gameplay that holds interest in some way. And when games do get a heavy-handed story treatment, the result is almost always quite painful. Not universally so, true, but it's the exception that proves the rule. Doesn't that largely depend on genre? Your examples are, first and foremost, strategy games. And while you might be right in regards to them, the same can't be said for, I dunno ...point and click adventure games wherein the gameplay is arguably the weakest point of the experience.
Gorgon Posted June 24, 2010 Posted June 24, 2010 20 minutes of (probably illegally obtained) gameplay footage. Looks like they've got the cyberpunk look down. They took it down. Busybodies. Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all.
Irrelevant Posted June 24, 2010 Posted June 24, 2010 (edited) Doesn't exploring a new world and solving puzzles count as gameplay? I think that context in terms of story matters. Edited June 24, 2010 by Irrelevant It's not Christmas anymore but I've fallen in love with these two songs: http://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=HXjk3P5LjxY http://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=NJJ18aB2Ggk
Oner Posted June 24, 2010 Posted June 24, 2010 Gorgon, it's probably the same one linked earlier: http://www.mediafire.com/?kdizq2ngzrg Giveaway list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DgyQFpOJvyNASt8A12ipyV_iwpLXg_yltGG5mffvSwo/edit?usp=sharing What is glass but tortured sand?Never forget! '12.01.13.
Raithe Posted June 24, 2010 Posted June 24, 2010 Gorgon, it's probably the same one linked earlier:http://www.mediafire.com/?kdizq2ngzrg It was. "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum."
Wombat Posted June 25, 2010 Posted June 25, 2010 Doesn't that largely depend on genre? Your examples are, first and foremost, strategy games. And while you might be right in regards to them, the same can't be said for, I dunno ...point and click adventure games wherein the gameplay is arguably the weakest point of the experience.Er...actually, it's rather classic preference issue. Deus Ex has quite a lot of elements, which naturally makes expectation varies depending on preferences. Taste differs and, probably, most of people must have things to do than arguing over personal preferences. More E3 previews E3 2010: Deus Ex: Human Revolution Preview at Gamerant E3 2010: Deus Ex: Human Revolution Preview at Shacknews Deus Ex features 200,000+ lines of dialogue A Video interview at Joystiq Damn...they talk like they had been working on RPGs although they don't seem to come up with a convenient word such as tutorial. Outside of portable consoles and something like Dragon Age, my brains can only think of this type of movie/game-play hybrid if some people stop the tendency of decreasing writings in modern video games and they may be one of the possible candidates (The same studio is working for Thief 4, too). Again, we have to wait for the end result and, at the moment.
Raithe Posted June 25, 2010 Posted June 25, 2010 It's kind of interesting to note all these post-E3 "reviews" seem to start off with the whole "after the letdown of IW, we weren't really expecting anything overly great now"... then promptly turn into gushing over the demo shown... Although it's nice to see the "that cool bit from the trailer? that was done in game and still looked awesome.." that gets mentioned by a few people.... So maybe the whole "cinematic trailer that has nothing to do with gameplay" isn't so significant with DE3... "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum."
Wombat Posted June 26, 2010 Posted June 26, 2010 Although it's nice to see the "that cool bit from the trailer? that was done in game and still looked awesome.." that gets mentioned by a few people.... So maybe the whole "cinematic trailer that has nothing to do with gameplay" isn't so significant with DE3... I watched at least a part of game play videos in this thread (now it's not available...I guess it was not supposed to be out), which was not as good as the trailer, at least. Also, I think a writer wrote it seems to be needed to be polished. So, again, it seems, we have to wait the final product.
funcroc Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 http://twitter.com/SquareEnixSonia/status/21043928055 DeusEx fans! At 8amPDT the very 1st gameplay trailer will be live on your fav gaming sites! Promise it lives up to the hype
Bos_hybrid Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 http://twitter.com/SquareEnixSonia/status/21043928055DeusEx fans! At 8amPDT the very 1st gameplay trailer will be live on your fav gaming sites! Promise it lives up to the hype So that's when WW3 starts?
HoonDing Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 So that's when WW3 starts? So Deus Ex is as much serious business as Fallout? The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
Purkake Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 Seeing as we've already seen it, I don't think anyone is going to be surprised/disappointed.
funcroc Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 (edited) gameplay trailer http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gc-10-deus-ex/702811 http://kotaku.com/5612092/your-first-look-...eus-ex-gameplay Edited August 13, 2010 by funcroc
Nepenthe Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 Looks good. Only seen the lowres IGN version, will have to hunt for a geniunely good one later @ home. You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions
WorstUsernameEver Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 Definitely a pretty impressive gameplay trailer. Hopefully the game isn't only made of flashiness but has also the same tactical depth of the first one.
Tale Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 Wait, is this the previously leaked behind closed doors gameplay? "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater."
Raithe Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 Wait, is this the previously leaked behind closed doors gameplay? It does look a lot like the gameplay that was shown in that leaked event.. although some of the bits at the docks are new... "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum."
entrerix Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 gameplay looks pretty good to me. It doesnt look like deus ex gameplay, but thats ok with me because that gameplay is old and could use an update. HOWEVER, the open-ended nature of the game must not be ignored for this to be a good sequel. I forget, did they keep a limited inventory? thats kinda important (this is one area that bioshock totally botched, system shock 2's inventory system was 100000x better than bioshocks Doom-style "I can carry every weapon" inventory.) Killing is kind of like playin' a basketball game. I am there. and the other player is there. and it's just the two of us. and I put the other player's body in my van. and I am the winner. - Nice Pete.
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