LadyCrimson Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Every one of JE's answers in this thread is one of the reasons I keep coming back to this forum. ...I guess one day I'm going to have to try to play Fallout. Perhaps I'll buy it from GoG. “Things are as they are. Looking out into the universe at night, we make no comparisons between right and wrong stars, nor between well and badly arranged constellations.” – Alan Watts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowtrain Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 I didn't even think that was possible on post win98 operating systems What planet are you from? Isn't that one of MS's big "adavnces" in post Win 98 operating systems? That the OS never lets the application touch the system/hardware? So the OS can always remain in control? To be fair, it is much better now than under DOS-based systems. Most times the OS shuts down violating application without hanging the system. I think it is amusing that Fallout 3 is one of the few games that manages to get around this somehow. There isn't even a message in the event viewer about what just happened. I should point out that FO3 doesn't always hard lock. Most of the time it just crashes back tp the OS or gets shut down by the OS. It is quite the crash prone game. Notice how I can belittle your beliefs without calling you names. It's a useful skill to have particularly where you aren't allowed to call people names. It's a mistake to get too drawn in/worked up. I mean it's not life or death, it's just two guys posting their thoughts on a message board. If it were personal or face to face all the usual restraints would be in place, and we would never have reached this place in the first place. Try to remember that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Fallout 3, though... have you even played on the PC? My computer restarts completely with no warning every half hour when playing. Sounds more like a hardware issue. Do you get a BSOD? Try disabling "automatic restart upon system failure" in control panel and see what it says. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILL THE ALMIGHTY Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 No thanks, I'll just stay away from the game. "Alright, I've been thinking. When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade - make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons, what am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager. Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons. Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons. I'm going to to get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Fallout 3, though... have you even played on the PC? My computer restarts completely with no warning every half hour when playing. Sounds more like a hardware issue. Do you get a BSOD? Try disabling "automatic restart upon system failure" in control panel and see what it says. Yeah, that's pretty much your system. With that attitude, you might as well give up on PC gaming in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILL THE ALMIGHTY Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 What do you mean? I've played loads of other newer and even very old games without any of these problems. "Alright, I've been thinking. When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade - make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons, what am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager. Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons. Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons. I'm going to to get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 What do you mean? I've played loads of other newer and even very old games without any of these problems. Every PC game is different, and the amount of different PC configurations out there are countless. You might have luck with a lot of games, but eventually you will need to troubleshoot if you really want to keep playing PC games. It's just odd that you would rather give up and blame the game rather than trying to fix the problem. There are thousands of people that managed to play Fallout 3 without it crashing every 30 minutes. I'm not saying the game doesn't have technical issues, it has plenty, but crashing that often is something on your end, not just the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowtrain Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 What do you mean? I've played loads of other newer and even very old games without any of these problems. Every PC game is different, and the amount of different PC configurations out there are countless. You might have luck with a lot of games, but eventually you will need to troubleshoot if you really want to keep playing PC games. It's just odd that you would rather give up and blame the game rather than trying to fix the problem. There are thousands of people that managed to play Fallout 3 without it crashing every 30 minutes. I'm not saying the game doesn't have technical issues, it has plenty, but crashing that often is something on your end, not just the game. Fallout 3 crashes a LOT though. Just as much if not more so than other games that have a reputation for being very buggy, such as STALKER or Bloodlines. I used to think it was just my system, but I've since found out that a lot of people have a problem with it. And the crashes are pretty random. I've had the game crash 3 times within just moments of each other, then go hours without crashing. Every 30 minutes without fail does sound like it might be something strictly beyond F3's problems though. Notice how I can belittle your beliefs without calling you names. It's a useful skill to have particularly where you aren't allowed to call people names. It's a mistake to get too drawn in/worked up. I mean it's not life or death, it's just two guys posting their thoughts on a message board. If it were personal or face to face all the usual restraints would be in place, and we would never have reached this place in the first place. Try to remember that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oner Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 For me FO 3 crashed once, STALKER and Bloodlines never did. Giveaway list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DgyQFpOJvyNASt8A12ipyV_iwpLXg_yltGG5mffvSwo/edit?usp=sharing What is glass but tortured sand?Never forget! '12.01.13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slowtrain Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 For me FO 3 crashed once, STALKER and Bloodlines never did. You are in tune with the computer gods, undoubtedly. Can you put in a good word for those less forunate? Notice how I can belittle your beliefs without calling you names. It's a useful skill to have particularly where you aren't allowed to call people names. It's a mistake to get too drawn in/worked up. I mean it's not life or death, it's just two guys posting their thoughts on a message board. If it were personal or face to face all the usual restraints would be in place, and we would never have reached this place in the first place. Try to remember that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oner Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Nah, those were hope spots in my usual "WHY won't it start" routine. BTW FO 2 was the most awesome game, the bugs changed with every windows install. Giveaway list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DgyQFpOJvyNASt8A12ipyV_iwpLXg_yltGG5mffvSwo/edit?usp=sharing What is glass but tortured sand?Never forget! '12.01.13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILL THE ALMIGHTY Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 What do you mean? I've played loads of other newer and even very old games without any of these problems. Every PC game is different, and the amount of different PC configurations out there are countless. You might have luck with a lot of games, but eventually you will need to troubleshoot if you really want to keep playing PC games. It's just odd that you would rather give up and blame the game rather than trying to fix the problem. There are thousands of people that managed to play Fallout 3 without it crashing every 30 minutes. I'm not saying the game doesn't have technical issues, it has plenty, but crashing that often is something on your end, not just the game. I'm aware, but a lot of people seem to have equal amounts of problems with crashes (although not as severe). I'm actually suspecting FO3 just crashes normally (IE, to desktop), but my PC configuration somehow messes up afterwards. Also I have the game on the 360, so I'm not abandoning it. "Alright, I've been thinking. When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade - make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons, what am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager. Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons. Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons. I'm going to to get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinkieGorilla Posted December 13, 2009 Author Share Posted December 13, 2009 funny. FO3 only crashed once or twice for me (though VATS got totally buggy after one of their patches. gee, thanks). i had way more of an issue with my mind going to a blue-screen every time i read and heard their horrible dialogue. hopw roewur ne? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.E. Sawyer Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 By the way, playing F3 on your PC in windowed mode helps prevent catastrophic crashes. It doesn't make the app itself less likely to crash, but it's a lot easier to recover from. twitter tyme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikhailian Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 By the way, playing F3 on your PC in windowed mode helps prevent catastrophic crashes. It doesn't make the app itself less likely to crash, but it's a lot easier to recover from. Heh, that trick also works for FallenEarth with the added benefit of boosted performance for the multicore cpu crowd. I'll have to give it a shot. But for all of us, there will come a point where it does matter, and it's gonna be like having a miniature suit-head shoving sticks up your butt all the time. - Tigranes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreasyDogMeat Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I wonder if Obsidian can do anything to make the engine more stable? I had huge trouble with Oblivion crashing every 30 minutes or so for me. Fallout 3 was a bit more stable, but not much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I'm not sure if this is totally accurate, but I am guessing that, since they are using Bethesda's engine, it is still in Bethesda's hands to make it more stable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigranes Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Not really. Once Bethesda gives the engine to Obsidian, they'll help Obsid in terms of tips and knowledge and whatnot, but Obsid will do the actual work. Especially since Beth won't be releasing any more games under the engine themselves. They're surely looking at TESV, and whatever else (*cough* mmo) Let's Play: Icewind Dale Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Icewind Dale II Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Divinity II (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG1 (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG2 (In Progress) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jero cvmi Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Fallout 3 crahsed every 1 or 2 hours for me. That's what i get for playing it on XBOX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 The only technical problem I'm having with FO3 is horrible frame skipping. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkreku Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 My Fallout 3 crashed sometimes (completely locking up the computer), but it was OK. Then I bought some DLC for it and now it's unplayable. Almost everytime I enter a building, I can expect a crash. I still have Fallout 3 installed, but I haven't started it up in probably six months. It's that annoying. Swedes, go to: Spel2, for the latest game reviews in swedish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hell Kitty Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Fallout 3 crashed to desktop once or twice, but otherwise I never had a problem with it. Oblivion was also pretty good, until I got a new video card and then it crashed all the damn time. Mostly when using doors to move between indoor and outdoor areas. Once the video card was eventually replaced the problem was solved. Fallout 3 crahsed every 1 or 2 hours for me.That's what i get for playing it on XBOX. What happens when a console game crashes? System freezes? Switches off? Anyway, this is a problem either with that specific disc, that specific console, or some sort of power issue, not the game itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jero cvmi Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 System freezes, sometimes reboot. Brand new console, and as for the disc it was a rented copy right after release and in perfect shape. No, it was the game itself, others have reported game-crashing bugs in XBOX as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syraxis Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 Especially since Beth won't be releasing any more games under They're not using gambryo anymore? I thought they were dead set on keeping it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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