He called it weak and unbalanced, not weak and broken, and it was in reference to the boss combat. He praised the choice and reactivity, as well as the fact that you needed to skill up in a given weapon before being able to use it. His main complaint was that the game forces you into situations which can be very hard if you didn't choose the "right" skills, thus the weak and unbalanced aspect.

 

Just watched it again and your correct, my mistake. I wonder were I got the broken from.

Because every other reviewer under the sun said it was broken unless you went tech/tough/AR because they were playing the doom marine?

He called it weak and unbalanced, not weak and broken, and it was in reference to the boss combat. He praised the choice and reactivity, as well as the fact that you needed to skill up in a given weapon before being able to use it. His main complaint was that the game forces you into situations which can be very hard if you didn't choose the "right" skills, thus the weak and unbalanced aspect.

 

Just watched it again and your correct, my mistake. I wonder were I got the broken from.

Because every other reviewer under the sun said it was broken unless you went tech/tough/AR because they were playing the doom marine?

 

Yahtzee has shown, if nothing else, that he will not jump on the love or hate bandwagon with the rest of reviewers for a given game. I think his review of AP was rather fair and levelheaded compared to the majority of mainstream reviews I've seen - that's pretty sad, to be honest.

Well, this is surely the dilemma. If we ask for rich complex stories with genuine choice with genuine consequences we can hardly burst into tears when we get it. Which is arguably the root of all his criticisms.

Yahtzee has shown, if nothing else, that he will not jump on the love or hate bandwagon with the rest of reviewers for a given game. I think his review of AP was rather fair and levelheaded compared to the majority of mainstream reviews I've seen - that's pretty sad, to be honest.

I'm starting to think he doesn't avoid bandwagons so much as intentionally goes against them.

Actually he seemed a lot kinder to it and better about comparisons than most critics... which is odd.

 

Uh huh!

He praised the choice and reactivity, as well as the fact that you needed to skill up in a given weapon before being able to use it. His main complaint was that the game forces you into situations which can be very hard if you didn't choose the "right" skills, thus the weak and unbalanced aspect.

 

I loved how he "narrated" the Grigori situation Especially his reason for slamming Grigori's head to the table.

After rewatching the AP review, I realized something: AP doesn't have obvious ****-will-hit-the-fan-in-this-room covers. Every piece of cover is a realistic part of the environment it's in.

He praised the choice and reactivity, as well as the fact that you needed to skill up in a given weapon before being able to use it. His main complaint was that the game forces you into situations which can be very hard if you didn't choose the "right" skills, thus the weak and unbalanced aspect.

 

I loved how he "narrated" the Grigori situation Especially his reason for slamming Grigori's head to the table.

 

 

"Well now you're just showing off!"

Round Two

He's absolutely right, and it really surprised in a bad way that Alpha Protocol had boss fights like Brayko's.

The problem with Brayko's boss fight is it was unavoidable and insanely difficult with most builds. Otherwise it was a really awesome boss fight.

The problem with Brayko's boss fight is it was unavoidable and insanely difficult with most builds. Otherwise it was a really awesome boss fight.

basically, if you were a close in fighter, you're screwed.

I beat Brayko with martial arts. I did have Stealth though. But I only used it to start the fight.

 

I popped up beside him, and just beat him up. It was actually trivially easy.

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I beat Brayko with martial arts. I did have Stealth though. But I only used it to start the fight.

 

I popped up beside him, and just beat him up. It was actually trivially easy.

Did he use his knife?

Round Two

He's preaching to the choir. Ok, so not really, but at least this one listener nods his head sagely, having been campaigning against the atrocities that are minigames, qte's, boss fights etc. in crpgs since more than a decade (depending on when each lack of imagination feature was introduced the first time).

 

Nice to know I'm not the only person in the world

What's the deal with Brayko? I just chain shot him in the face 2-3 times and that's it.

I've complained about Alpha Protocol boss fights in several posts and I still find it hard to belive that talented designers would make such a newbie mistake. I'd almost bet that it was someone higher up telling the desingers to go with "traditional" Dragon /

I beat Brayko with martial arts. I did have Stealth though. But I only used it to start the fight.

 

I popped up beside him, and just beat him up. It was actually trivially easy.

Did he use his knife?

 

 

I beat him up before he could use his knife. It wasn't that bad given I was already right beside him. He had his little cutscene where he cokes up, and when it returned I just combo'd him to death.

Brayko presents a challenge that requires you to work out very specific strategies to defeat him. Players who recognise this and do so find that he is rewarding, and soon enough, simple - and that's the case in *every* build, including martial arts or SMGs. Players who either don't recognise this and continue to try and win it 'their way', or can't work out a viable strategy, or simply don't have the patience, think he is ridiculous.

 

Now you could argue that having a boss with that much health in a real world setting is stupid to begin with, sure - but that's a different argument altogether.

Not to mention that being a whatever specialist doesn't mean you can't start the fight with a good ol' incendiary grenade.

Brayko presents a challenge that requires you to work out very specific strategies to defeat him. Players who recognise this and do so find that he is rewarding, and soon enough, simple - and that's the case in *every* build, including martial arts or SMGs.

 

It's actually very simple. Run when he's got his knives out.

Brayko was the toughest fight, but when I figured out a decent strategy, it was over in one attempt. But I did need to use my characters skills.

 

Chainshot to the face to start things off, then I planted a incendiary grenade at my location. With the help of Shadow Operative I moved ta another hiding place while Brayko stormed my first location only to get hit by the fire blast. Then it was just a few more shots (or possibly a chain shot) and he was down.

 

I wish more fights in games were like that, actually requiring thought and strategy.

PoP: Forgotten Sands

The AP review was old-school Yahtzee, just dead-on hillarious critiscism. The Mike Thornton is a douche/ponce/annoying idiot parts were especially delightful since it was my exact opinion.

Brayko presents a challenge that requires you to work out very specific strategies to defeat him. Players who recognise this and do so find that he is rewarding, and soon enough, simple - and that's the case in *every* build, including martial arts or SMGs. Players who either don't recognise this and continue to try and win it 'their way', or can't work out a viable strategy, or simply don't have the patience, think he is ridiculous.

 

Now you could argue that having a boss with that much health in a real world setting is stupid to begin with, sure - but that's a different argument altogether.

 

 

How do you beat Brayko if you have created a stealth/no combat character?