DaRK heRoIc FaNTAsy

[Gfted1]

I think only Quebec is hardcore French, even going so far as to make French the official language for business and street signs. Also, every once in a while they try to break free of Canada and become their own country which is always good for a few lulz.

[Bos_hybrid]

However, the writing has always been typically crap.

 

 

Compared to?

 

When compared to most other game companies they are miles and miles and miles ahead.

[HoonDing]

Not England-lite?

 

They speak French(among other languages) there and eat croissants, no?

I thought the entire country is bilingual. Like Belgium, with the difference that it actually works.

Edited June 11, 2009 by virumor

[Oner]

However, the writing has always been typically crap.

 

 

Compared to?

 

When compared to most other game companies they are miles and miles and miles ahead.

I'm not sure about "most" companies, but their writing isn't all bad. Just a bigger percent of it than we'd like to.

[Pidesco]

However, the writing has always been typically crap.

 

 

Compared to?

 

When compared to most other game companies they are miles and miles and miles ahead.

 

 

Tim Schafer, Ken Levine, Ragnar T

[Volourn]

"Tim Schafer, Ken Levine, Ragnar T

[Pidesco]

And, if I am ignorant about someone he's not that good or important. Sorry.

 

Your own ignorance doesn't say anything about someone else's quality or importance.

[Bos_hybrid]

However, the writing has always been typically crap.

 

 

Compared to?

 

When compared to most other game companies they are miles and miles and miles ahead.

 

 

Tim Schafer, Ken Levine, Ragnar T

[Purkake]

The Longest Journey was awesome, don't diss the R-man!

[HoonDing]

It's perhaps for the best that Bethesda's writing is horrible, otherwise BioWare might have been put out of business long ago.

 

That said, Michael Kirkbride was a good Bethesda writer. He cooked up a large amount of lore and wrote a lot of in-game books. Same goes for Julian LeFay, who practically invented the Elder Scrolls.

 

EDIT: And indeed, TLJ was great. It's practically the Planescape: Torment of adventure games.

Edited June 11, 2009 by virumor

[Pidesco]

However, the writing has always been typically crap.

 

 

Compared to?

 

When compared to most other game companies they are miles and miles and miles ahead.

 

 

Tim Schafer, Ken Levine, Ragnar T

[Bos_hybrid]

Well, yeah, of course it's nothing but an opinion. Wasn't that what you were asking for when you replied "compared to"?

 

I thought you were comparing games to movies and books. Not other games.

 

 

As for JRPGs, I sure as hell have enjoyed a few, but it was never, ever for the writing. Of course, dodgy translations may be to blame for that.

 

I loved the Zelda games. Haven't played on since Ocarina of time though.

 

The Longest Journey was awesome, don't diss the R-man!

 

I stand corrected......

[Purkake]

Zelda is hardly a RPG.

[Pidesco]

Well, yeah, of course it's nothing but an opinion. Wasn't that what you were asking for when you replied "compared to"?

 

I thought you were comparing games to movies and books. Not other games.

 

 

As for JRPGs, I sure as hell have enjoyed a few, but it was never, ever for the writing. Of course, dodgy translations may be to blame for that.

 

I loved the Zelda games. Haven't played on since Ocarina of time though.

 

The Longest Journey was awesome, don't diss the R-man!

 

I stand corrected......

 

Well, personally, I feel that comparing the vast majority of game writing to well written books and films isn't even worth doing at this point. The art of writing for games is just still too undeveloped, I guess.

 

Zelda games are generally awesome and all but they are not RPGs. Besides, the writing in the Zelda games was just a very basic background to get the gameplay going. The writing in those games was just functional, and best if ignored.

 

Finally, regarding The Longest Journey, I don't think it was a particularly good game, in the sense that its core gameplay mechanics just weren't very good. What I think The Longest Journey did well was the writing, as its character development was comparatively rich and engaging and its plot development did a very good job of keeping the player engaged. I think TLJ is one of only a handful of games where the writing managed to make its characters feel like real people and not just a collection of standard archetypes.

[HoonDing]

Finally, regarding The Longest Journey, I don't think it was a particularly good game, in the sense that its core gameplay mechanics just weren't very good.

What do you mean? You don't like point & click?

 

Anyway, as highly regarded as TLJ is, Broken Sword 1 > TLJ in every aspect.

[Wrath of Dagon]

Bioware's writing is frequently pretty good, just not that original. But it's usually at least functional, most of Mass Effect excluded.

[Morgoth]

Writing alone doesn't really do much for me these days anymore. It's the whole acting, the whole performance of a NPC that counts.

[Wrath of Dagon]

Yes, you can't judge video game writing in isolation, it's not like a book. To me you need good quest design to support good writing, otherwise it's kind of pointless.

[Junai]

The blood doesn't bother me as much as the bloody slow loading..

 

*sigh*

[Deadly_Nightshade]

I tend to take this guy seriously since he's a big KOTOR fan.

:lol:

[Mamoulian War]

As for JRPGs, I sure as hell have enjoyed a few, but it was never, ever for the writing. Of course, dodgy translations may be to blame for that.

 

You can bet your ass that most of the blame is on the bad translations... Not saying that's the case for all JRPGs... It's same like other games, some have **** story some have excellent story, but most of them are just rippoffs of classic books

[entrerix]

examples? just so I can track down the books myself to read.

[Mamoulian War]

every book where are rebels fighting against big unknown dark evil

[Slowtrain]

Somebody should make a crpg where you get to the play the unknown dark evil instead of a dweeby hero type.

[Purkake]

Somebody should make a crpg where you get to the play the unknown dark evil instead of a dweeby hero type.

 

MotB?