Iowa SC Overturns Gay Marriage Ban

[Blank]

I would like to love everyone with what God has given me. I don't always agree with the decisions people make, personal, social, economical. In fact, there are things I believe people do that are outright sinful. Yet, Christ loved me when I was outright sinful, and my life has been changed by that love. So I want to show that love to others. If I will disagree with another person, I will express that disagreement through a lovingkindess inspired by God, for I believe people can see more about who God is, i.e. good and holy, through loving and caring about others, e.g. assisting them with their emotional, spiritual, and physical needs. If God is the ultimate definition of good and moral uprightness, then showing that person my love and care will help them to see the ultimate good and moral uprightness. My own opinions be damned. God is my authority and I hope to make Him look good.

Edited April 5, 2009 by Blank

[Walsingham]

Aren't you a little ashamed about how all this chasing around after gays with legislation is making the country look.

 

I don't know. Is there Yackety Sax in the background?

Edited April 5, 2009 by Walsingham

[Guard Dog]

They're not as bad as, say, Wyoming, but they're not exactly at the forefront of democracy.

 

So Wyoming is a pit of oppression huh? How about this?

 

http://www.mormonlawyers.com/2009/02/same-...efeated-in.html

 

Oh, and since you seem to be incapable of seeing beyond political sterotypes there are nineteen democrats in the Wyoming state house. Many voted FOR the ban. That means it was the REPUBLICANS who defeated this. And in case you didn't know (and in your case you seem to know nothing you didn't read on some left wing blog) Wyoming recognizes gay marriage. The reason is there is a strong libertarian streak in people in that region. You know the ideology you routinely castigate? The one where people are free to do as they please with their lives and money? I can see how you would hate that.

Edited April 5, 2009 by Guard Dog

[Hurlshort]

Discrimination against gay people doesn't fit a party line or a religious doctrine, or even a state stereotype.

[Arkan]

Aren't you a little ashamed about how all this chasing around after gays with legislation is making the country look.

 

I don't know. Is there Yackety Sax in the background?

So many

[Gorgon]

"OMG my house burned to the ground !!! ...oh wait, I hear yakety sak, now it's funny!!!!"

Edited April 5, 2009 by Gorgon

[alanschu]

That seems to be the case! Speed things up and play some Benny Hill and things are funny haha.

[Gorgon]

That goes for everything, except The Benny Hill Show.

[Killian Kalthorne]

As an Iowan I have to say that I feel a little bit better about my state. Iowa has an long history of being the forefront of civil rights and liberties and this is just another stepping stone. Of course the bigots now are going to try for a constitutional amendment like they did in California. Luckily such measures is quite hard to do here in Iowa. The earliest such a measure will pass would be 2012.

 

Another big boon on this is that the state government will be getting revenue from licensing fees and tourism will increase. Economist expect over $160 million increase in Iowa's economy over the next three years.

 

There might be a glimmer of hope for the human race yet.

[Trenitay]

I wish the rest of the U.S. would wake up and realize that this is good idea.

Edited April 5, 2009 by awsomeness

[Meshugger]

I wish the rest of the U.S. would wake up and realize that this is good idea.

 

Economically speaking, I can take that this is of no issue for them, nor do they see it as any form of longterm planning. The matter of principle truimphs everything.

 

Like the drugtesting for those recieving unemployment benefits that i have heard about in some states. These practices would be insanely expensive, nor would they actually produce anything, or have any basis of reality. It is just a matter principle: "No druggie gets my taxpayers money!".

[Humodour]

They're not as bad as, say, Wyoming, but they're not exactly at the forefront of democracy.

 

So Wyoming is a pit of oppression huh? How about this?

 

http://www.mormonlawyers.com/2009/02/same-...efeated-in.html

 

Oh, and since you seem to be incapable of seeing beyond political sterotypes there are nineteen democrats in the Wyoming state house. Many voted FOR the ban. That means it was the REPUBLICANS who defeated this. And in case you didn't know (and in your case you seem to know nothing you didn't read on some left wing blog) Wyoming recognizes gay marriage. The reason is there is a strong libertarian streak in people in that region. You know the ideology you routinely castigate? The one where people are free to do as they please with their lives and money? I can see how you would hate that.

 

Take a chill pill sunshine and read the thread. Nobody mentioned Republicans or Democrats except you. I'm just pointing out that Wyoming is fairly socially conservative (which is pretty stupid to try and deny), and Iowa is somewhere between California and Wyoming, so Iowa's not the first place you'd look if you were expecting advances in social liberty, but it's good to see nonetheless.

 

Oh, and that "left-wing blog" you were referring to? Yeah, the guy's a hard-core Libertarian. Which is beautifully ironic.

Edited April 6, 2009 by Krezack

[Walsingham]

Give GD a break, Krez. He's still recovering from being smashed like a fistful of potato chips in that crash. i think we all, at one time or another, have snapped at someone on the forum, presuming their point of view based on what some unconnected twit has been saying to us.

[Blank]

Silence you fascist pig!

[Walsingham]

Silence you fascist pig!

 

What is it with pigs being right wing, anyway?

[taks]

Oh, and that "left-wing blog" you were referring to? Yeah, the guy's a hard-core Libertarian. Which is beautifully ironic.

your reading comprehension is, to say the least, a bit weak. GD was not referring to your specific reference, he was referring to your rather simplistic general knowledge of the US, i.e., everything you "know" about the US is based on some left-wing blog viewpoint. you're in college, you should be better at understanding simple sentences.

 

walsh: sorry man, but GD didn't snap because of his recent car accident. in fact, he didn't snap at all. krezack is a troll that thinks he knows more about the US than those of us that live here. in reality, he's nothing but a scared punk kid in college (and apparently suffering some severe issues with that) that thinks he has some worldly knowledge because he saw some michael moore films and read about the US on the internet. GD, like any rational thinker, simply points out moronic hypocrisy and narrow-minded view points masquerading as something enlightened.

 

taks

Edited April 7, 2009 by taks

[Hurlshort]

Woohoo, Vermont just followed Iowa and became the fourth state to legalize gay marriage. We are on a roll!

 

Unfortunately Krezack's view of the US as a singular bloated capitalist monster is common internationally. Most outsiders have no concept of the complex system that is taking place on a federal, state, and local level. This is a huge frickin' country. There are a ton of ideologies, agendas, and identities floating around.

[Calax]

Woohoo, Vermont just followed Iowa and became the fourth state to legalize gay marriage. We are on a roll!

 

Unfortunately Krezack's view of the US as a singular bloated capitalist monster is common internationally. Most outsiders have no concept of the complex system that is taking place on a federal, state, and local level. This is a huge frickin' country. There are a ton of ideologies, agendas, and identities floating around.

I think they can see the politics at the fed level a tiny bit, but for the most part they can't see the legal maneuvering like we do (nor can we do the same to them)

[Humodour]

moronic hypocrisy and narrow-minded view points masquerading as something enlightened.

 

Hmm. What does that remind me of? Oh yeah! Libertarianism.

[alanschu]

moronic hypocrisy and narrow-minded view points masquerading as something enlightened.

 

Hmm. What does that remind me of? Oh yeah! Libertarianism.

 

 

As someone who would most likely identify himself as a Libertarian, I'm a bit surprised by this comment.

[Meshugger]

Rationality is seldom comparable with ideology. However, a rational point of view can share traits with one though.

[Pidesco]

moronic hypocrisy and narrow-minded view points masquerading as something enlightened.

 

Hmm. What does that remind me of? Oh yeah! Libertarianism.

 

 

As someone who would most likely identify himself as a Libertarian, I'm a bit surprised by this comment.

 

Wasn't that sarcasm?

[taks]

As someone who would most likely identify himself as a Libertarian, I'm a bit surprised by this comment.

 

are you kidding, krezack doesn't even know what hypocrisy is, let alone possess the ability to recognize it in others. i've already exposed both his and xard's nonsense for what it is. he just can't admit it to himself.

 

taks

[J.E. Sawyer]

I find it ironic that same sex marriage is legal in Iowa but illegal in California.

Ballot initiatives are the worst aspect of California politics.

[Wrath of Dagon]

That's right, who do those people think they're are, voting their views like that. Government should be left to professional politicians and preferably unelected judges, who know what they're doing.