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I got burned by Bioware Premium Modules, don't wanna get burned again...

 

Huh? Did you buy them via the store or in the Kingmaker pack? I have the latter and they seemed fine to me... =]

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I got burned by Bioware Premium Modules, don't wanna get burned again...

 

Huh? Did you buy them via the store or in the Kingmaker pack? I have the latter and they seemed fine to me... :ermm:

 

Unfortunately through the Bioware Store :(

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Good news, I'll probably buy it unless the DRM turns out to be absolutely retarded. I bent over once for ETW, but doesn't mean I'm keen to do it a second time.

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There's nothing confirmed about DRM yet. The initial source for the release date also said the DRM would be a one-off internet activation during installation, but an absolute limit of three computers for installation, with no way of de-activating. An Ossian dev posted on the forum that he hadn't heard of this before, and would take it up with Atari. I would be rather surprised if Atari went with something so eye-catchingly draconian, so most likely this is a mistake and we'll get the right info soon.

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*sighs*

 

In 18 months they could release more than 3 adventure packs, if they would not be stupid enough to craft such ****ty DRM...

 

Some people realy hate earning more money...

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2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours

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5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours

6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours

7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours

8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC)

9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours

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16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours

17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours

18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours

19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours

20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours

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I really don't understand how a company can seriously endorse an non-refundable activation limit in a world where OS's get reinstalled fairly frequently, simply due to malware, hardware failures, configuration issues, and general once a year maintenance.

 

 

meh.

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Well, frankly I don't blame them.

 

In these trying economic times, companies are trying very hard to minimize spending and bring in as much revenue they possible. 21st century entertainment-business wisdom seems to dictate that pissing off and driving away customers is the most efficient and promising way to maximize revenue. Also bear in mind, Atari's primary competition is the behemoth EA, who has refined the process of screwing customers to an art form. Smaller companies like Atari can only hope to learn and keep up.

 

Kudos to them.

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because they really, truly, think that piracy decreases revenue, DRM counteracts that effect, and second-hand sales are a problem. they can't see the forest through the trees: it costs them more sales up front from people that won't deal with it and the pirates ultimately get around the DRM/activation limitations anyway.

 

remember the old skool games? bard's tale 2 had HOLES IN THE DISK for copy protection!!! amazing. i bet i still have one of the 5 1/4" floppies somewhere to check them. :)

 

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Crap, now I'm in a dilemma. I really really wanted to buy Westgate to show my support for Ossian because I like 'em and they've been shafted pretty bad by the whole debacle.

 

Groar.

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And there goes my interest... :)

 

Mine too... the chances of my purchase of the Mysteries of Westgate have just decreased to near zero. Of course, the word 'near' is only there to account for the slight chance that they might change it and I will hear about it, which seems rather unlikely, since even if they do change it, I will be unlikely to hear about it, given that I will no longer follow any news about MoW from this point on.

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That's Atari for you.

 

What do they care. I mean they have so many other games that what AD&D role playing must be nothing but pocket change for them. If it weren't, they would have stayed on top of things and made sure that not only the PC but Macs and Linux users would be able to play as well.

 

I have heard this fear of second sales said before. How can they justify someone who for what ever reasons after playing the game decide that they don't want it? Oh, right. That's what the DL is for. I got it now. Don't let the team that's making this game for you make it on a disc. Put a lot of fire hoops for people to jump through just to install it. Then when the end user is done with the game they have a choice. Keep it or delete it. Vola, no more second hand sales.

 

Nice how companies think about making life harder than what it is.

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From the horse's mouth:

 

Hi Everybody,

 

I wanted to clarify for you what Atari is intending with regard to the 3 activations for MoW. So I

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Well, frankly I don't blame them.

 

In these trying economic times, companies are trying very hard to minimize spending and bring in as much revenue they possible. 21st century entertainment-business wisdom seems to dictate that pissing off and driving away customers is the most efficient and promising way to maximize revenue. Also bear in mind, Atari's primary competition is the behemoth EA, who has refined the process of screwing customers to an art form. Smaller companies like Atari can only hope to learn and keep up.

 

Kudos to them.

 

You know, in these trying economic times, consumers think twice how do they spent their money...

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1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours

2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours

3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours

4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours

5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours

6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours

7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours

8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC)

9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours

10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours

11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours

12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours

13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours

14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours

15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours

16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours

17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours

18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours

19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours

20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours

21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours

22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours

23) Fairy Fencer F - PS3 - 215+ hours

24) Megadimension Neptunia VII - PS4 - 160 hours

25) Super Neptunia RPG - PS4 - 44+ hours

26) Journey - PS3 - 22+ hours

27) Final Fantasy XV - PS4 - 263+ hours (including all DLCs)

28) Tales of Arise - PS4 - 111+ hours

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not good idea, because if you pay for the product, it means you agree with everything given to you, including DRM... I am one of people who things not buying gives bigger notice to publishers that you disagree with them than buying and cracking...

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Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 1: Austria Grand Campaign (completed)
Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 2: Xhosa Grand Campaign (completed)
My PS Platinums and 100% - 28 games so far (my PSN profile)

 

 

1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours

2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours

3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours

4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours

5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours

6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours

7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours

8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC)

9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours

10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours

11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours

12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours

13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours

14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours

15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours

16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours

17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours

18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours

19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours

20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours

21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours

22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours

23) Fairy Fencer F - PS3 - 215+ hours

24) Megadimension Neptunia VII - PS4 - 160 hours

25) Super Neptunia RPG - PS4 - 44+ hours

26) Journey - PS3 - 22+ hours

27) Final Fantasy XV - PS4 - 263+ hours (including all DLCs)

28) Tales of Arise - PS4 - 111+ hours

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I'm just curious about why they don't just use what was done for MOTB/SOZ on the Atari DD store.

 

As far as I've noticed with my purchases of those, it's just an installer file and a cd key.

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Ah, the good ole days where copy protection could be circumvented with a piece of tape.

you wouldn't believe the rigmarole we went through to get our BT2 copy to run. i will never understand how my brothers and i figured out how to get the copy to load (we had a legit version that would not load at all).

 

the first BT, btw, required you to answer questions from the book. guess they didn't think people would find a way to copy the book... you know, photo-copiers and all that being around since nearly the middle ages.

 

taks

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...required you to answer questions from the book. guess they didn't think people would find a way to copy the book... you know, photo-copiers and all that being around since nearly the middle ages.

 

taks

 

Wow, I had completely forgotten about that until you just mentioned it. "Page 34, second paragraph, 17th word..." Good times.

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